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In Topic: Infinite Possibilities!

13 July 2009 - 04:25 PM

QUOTE (Jenskott @ May 27 2009, 02:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why do you think the Uchiha's clan restoration is such a big deal for Sasuke? Or it's an important plot for Kishimoto? It's only been mentioned twice in 448 chapters. And one of them was in Chapter 3, long before Sauke became utterly and fully obsessed with his revenge.

Why do you think Kishimoto's intent is restoring Uchiha's clan?

Truthfully, I think he should end up alone. Sasuke and romance DON'T mix. But regarding a possible wife... Sakura confessed, got rejected, has apparently moved on and isn't liable to fall in for a traitor. And Sasuke has never shown romantic feelings towards her. In fact, in the second part, hasn't shown feelings for her whatsoever.

Meanwhile we have Karin. She's also a Sasuke's fangirl, but she's able tell when he makes something dumb. And Sasuke HAS shown he cares in some level for her. It seems to me Kishimoto designed her character for becoming Sasuke's possible girlfriend.



WHAT decisive clues are piling up for the latter? Please, tell me.

Ino anounced her love for Sasuke in front of him. He didn't reciprocate her feelings.

Lee confessed Sakura and got almost killed for saving her. Still, Sakura didn't return his feelings. There never were scenes building up Sakura's love for Lee. Thus, Lee's confession and brave act didn't change in the slightest her love for Sasuke or her growing feelings for Naruto.

Sakura confessed Sasuke. Still, there never were scenes where Sasuke built up romantic feelings towards Sakura. He didn't love her and his revenge was more important, so he rejected her. And Sakura moved on. Sakura's confession and rejection allowed her leave behind her childhood crush and focusing on her ever-growing feelings towards Naruto.

Rin also confessed Kakashi, and got rejected. Are you seeing a pattern?

Hinata has confessed to Naruto. Yet, there're no scenes showing Naruto developing feelings towards her.

Hinata is a very minor secondary character. She barely shows up. Therefore, If Kishimoto intended pairing them up, he should have used all Hinata's appearances to romantically develop their relationship. Though, he has wasted BLATANT chances for developing a romance between them. NaruHina scenes have always been one-sided: Hinata crushing on Naruto, and Naruto remaining unaware of it. There's not scenes showing Naruto has steadily been falling in love with Hinata. Jesus, they haven't got a decent conversation in three hundred chapters.

Therefore, I don't think that scene was done for developing NaruHina, but for developing HINATA. Now she's managed becoming stronger and more assertive. I suspect Naruto will turn her gently down or she'll step aside, and she'll get over it, become stronger and find another love, right like Sakura did.

But why did Kishimoto wrote that scene? Hinata crushing on Naruto and wanting changing was a dangling plotline since the Chuunin exams. Kishimoto also can decide close that loose end. It doesn't mean he'll close it for pairing them up.

I've said this before: we -presumably- think Naruto will end up with Sakura due to the steady and constant development that relationship has got since the begining of the series. Naruto has stated he loves Sakura and has proved it with words, facts and thoughts. And he still loves Sakura. Sakura's relationship with Naruto has greatly evolved through the entire series, she's became closer to him, and hints have been given she's fallen in love with him (True, Kishimoto has wasted some chances for developing it further, but Sakura is the lead female character, so he can afford it). Has Chapter 437 somehow nullified all that development somehow?

Now, regarding the eight-tailed fox... Naruto DIDN'T, I repeat, DIDN'T draw eight tails out when Hinata got hurt. He drew SIX tails. He draw eight tails out later, when Kyuubi was tempting him, its power was leaking and he was too weak for stopping it. Do you remember nobody mentioned Hinata in those scenes? Pain was questioning his ideals, and Naruto talked Minato about his murdered sensei and his destroyed village.

And why did he drew six tails out? Pain had killed Jiraiya. And Kakashi (or so Naruto believes). And a lot of people. And obliterated the village Naruto had vowed protecting, hurting his precious people. And now he was questioning his ideals, his dreams, his goals.

And then one girl, whom he had never noticed, interferes because she was in love with him. And Pain slaughters her brutally (or so all thought).

Another person has been killed because he wasn't strong enough. No, it was way worse. She's been killed because she cared for him. In one fashion, he's responsible for her death and/or injuries.

Wouldn't you be upset? I would be.

He didn't draw six tails out only because Hinata got hurt, but because Jiraiya was dead, Kakashi was dead, Konoha was destroyed, a lot of people was hurt or dead, his dreams could be foolish fantasies, and one friend of his got killed. He was already furious, desperate and upset, and Hinata was the straw broke the camel's back. She wasn't the sole trigger.

God, NaruSaku has got a two-sided development through 400+ chapters, NaruHina hasn't got any in over three hundred chapters, but everyone is panicking because Hinata has confessed.

Of course, it's also possible Kishimoto thinks differently, and he gets Naruto and Hinata together. But, seriously, is it such big of a deal? I preffer NaruSaku, and nothing will change that in this point. This is a fictional tale, they are fictional characters, so let's stop take everything so seriously and overthink things.


That's the biggest excuse for SasuSaku. That he wants to revive his clan. Yes, REVIVE his clan. I doubt he wants a new family. He wants his OLD family back.
Karin is a very good possibility, because through the comic relief intended with Karin, both has very caring feelings for each other. I personally like Juugo and Karin together, but if Sasuke doesn't end up with Suigetsu or Naruto, well... Karin's the next best choice.

As for the Six Tails, well... Hinata was the last straw. Pein had killed Jiraiya, killed Kakashi, destroyed his village... I don't think he was willing to take anything more. He may also have thought if he didn't do something, Sakura may have been next. Hinata technically almost got Naruto KILLED.
To straighten that up: Hinata was the last straw. If she had NOT gone there to help him, he wouldn't have gone into a Tailed Mode because of the last straw, and from THERE, Kyuubi was the one taking most control. If not for Minato, Naruto would have died because Hinata interfered. Had she not, Pein would have, yes, taken Naruto with him. But on that note, Naruto would've seen Sasuke, like he'd been wanting to. He also would not be killed, because the Eight Tails was not yet captured.
Then there's the fact that Pein had the guts to "kill" one of Naruto's friends right in front of him, after all he'd already done.

It is true that in an interview with Kishimoto, he says three of Naruto's "important people" with be either killed or seriously injured. Kakashi and Jiraiya were killed (Even though Kakashi was brought back), and Hinata seriously injured. Yes, Hinata can be called an important person to Naruto, but Kiba can be, too. They're friends, and that's IT. Hinata loves Naruto, yes. But the fact is, if he also cared for her like she does him, he'd have searched her out after everything was settled and spoke to her. No, instead, he hasn't even thought of her once since then, and has not even looked at her or spoken/thought her name. She's practically non-existent to him again. We're back where we started-- Naruto constantly worrying about Sasuke.

In Topic: The Great NaruSaku Debate Thread!

13 July 2009 - 04:06 PM

QUOTE (algernon81 @ Apr 11 2006, 11:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've also heard the pragmatic argument that if Naruto didn't fall for Hinata, then the whole purpose of her character in the Narutoverse would be defeated.

Of course, I think that rather than her sole purpose in being introduced into the story to be N's love interest, it is actually to be, well, yet another person whose life changes through his positive influence. And her change will probably be that much more significant as it will undoubtedly have connections to Naruto's relationship with Sakura.

All in all, I think the claim that Hinata's purpose in the manga is to be Naruto's future mate (regardless of the argument used) makes an already poorly-developed character (not that I'm complaining) even more one-dimensional.

...uh, though it really doesn't need to be said here, does it? hehe


The problem with Hinata's existence is exactly this. All she's basically there for is to be the side character that likes the main character; always watching from the sidelines. Her character I'd say is a TINY BIT more than one-dimensional, though. She has had a backstory explained and such, but regardless of that, her importance to the story is below, well... Kankurou's. The only character she has more development than is probably TenTen, who seems to just be there to fill in the space for the last remaining member of Team Gai.


QUOTE (Vespar @ Apr 12 2006, 12:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The most simplest NaruSaku argument there is;

Naruto is the protagonist. A protagonist always has goals to work to -one is to be acknowledged by everyone (become Hokage) and the other is to win over Sakura.
For him to fail in the long run, is to cheapen his character.
By this logic, Hinata is runner's up (or the booby prize wink.gif ) and the hero never gets second place.

There, throw that into a sig when you browse NarutoFan and you'll get neg-repped 6-feet under by insecure people who can't match the logic.


Sadly, most NaruHina fans are so insecure about their pairing (even though it's a fake pairing in a fake world), that they down NaruSaku and brush off their relationship as sibling-like. When Sakura hugged Naruto, people said it was a "good friend hug", with no evidence to back it up. Someone on DeviantART even drew a "What If" picture, with Hinata hugging Naruto. Biggest problem with that? It's PROVING they're DESPERATE for NaruHina to happen. The point is, no matter what happens with Naruto and Sakura, they say it's sibling-like, but if the SAME EXACT scenario occurred between Hinata and Naruto, it'd be "romantic". Another big problem is that they NEED to face facts-- Naruto and Sakura are NOT siblings, and thus, the chances of them really being together increase drastically.

In Topic: do you believe or just like?

13 July 2009 - 03:53 PM

Ever since I began liking this pairing, I've believed it's the most likely to happen next to SasuNaru. And if anyone starts any crap about Sasuke and Naruto both being guys, I'll tell you this: If one of them was female, they'd already long be cannon. I see the hints, and I'm not going to deny them; especially because I used to hate SasuNaru.

NaruSaku most likely has the most developed relationship between a male and female. Although ShikaTema looks to be cannon, it's not WELL developed unless they're together, but on that note, their relationship is added to each time they meet. They live in different villages, so getting closer all the time like Naruto and Sakura would be difficult. Personally, I love how Sakura once hated Naruto, and now he's the one person she relies on more than anymore. Both of them grew up, and they both grew up together. I can see NaruSaku happening better than Naruto and any other female.

In Topic: Sasuke, Who Should He End Up With?

13 July 2009 - 03:49 PM

Itachi's dead. Option one down. ...Naruto? biggrin.gif
...Then again... that's a possibility. But then there's NaruSaku. So let's keep it even with those two.
Sasuke and Suigetsu? ...Preferred. biggrin.gif
Last options? Juugo or Karin. xDD After that, I'd say nobody.

In Topic: Would You????

13 July 2009 - 03:47 PM

No way. Just because a pairing happens doesn't means the entire plot's been butchered. I'm reading this series for its plot; not its pairings. Originally I liked NaruHina, but statics began telling me, "Those two? If I go on a search for development, would I ACTUALLY find anything?" I've liked pairings as I continued to keep up with this series. I'm not here plain out for pairings.