shisui2006

Thanks. That's where I like to hang out since you get to know people better in a smaller community, and the moderater doesn't let people get away with things that turned me off the larger Naruto forums (like telling people who don't like a certain pairing they can alll ****ing die).

I added a little extra fun arguement about the Kohanamaru henge scene. Great way to annoy SasuSaku fans.

I'm still trying to read the Thread, so this may have come up before. If so, I'm sorry.

Anyways, a common arguement against NaruSaku is that Sakura cares about Sasuke in a romantic sense. Where?

Do not accept this or allow this argument into the debate. There is no proof of Sakura "loving" Sasuke in a romantic sense is Part II. The burden of proof is on those who want to use this "fact" against us to prove it true. Do not try to prove she doesn't. It's impossible. Proving a negative in a debate like this often is. So, it's up to the other side to prove it true. If they can't prove it true, then you have the full right to simply brush this arguement aside saying, "there's no proof."

If they still can't get it through their heads on who the burden of proof is on. Use this example:

I can say Shino and Tenten are a hardcore couple in Part II. There is no proof to counter this. So, am I right until someone can find undeniable evidence that Shino isn't tapping Tenten? Or is it up to me prove that they are in fact a couple? If they try to claim it's different, point out it isn't. You're not saying Shino and Tenten are getting it on, but pointing out how anyone can make up anything if the burden of proof falls on those who oppose a theory. There are no excemptions. This of course works best if you don't do the same thing.

Some people will try to give proof. Here's how to point out it's not really proof of romance.

"Proof": She loved him in Part I.

Counter: We're talking about Part II. You have over 100 chapters. Even if Sasuke hasn't been in it alot, the theme of saving him has. You should have plenty of time to get some sort of small evidence showing she kept those feelings after 2 and 1/2 years.

"Proof": She looked at him.

Counter: Was she supposed to look at the ground? Besides, how does that imply romance? The time? Much more time was spent with Naruto and Sasuke looking at each other. Are they even more likely? We're not argueing that she doesn't have feelings at all for Sasuke. Just not romantic.

EDIT: Also point out that she was thinking of her promise to Naruto when she attacked him. Not about how much she wants him back.

"Proof": She cried over a picture of him.

Counter: She cried over a picture of Team 7. There was nothing to single Sasuke out. She cried, and a teardrop fell. Kishimoto could have it fall on Sasuke to symoblize her missing him. Instead the teardrop was used to switch over to Naruto. This actually shows a connection to Naruto. This is of course NOT a NaruSaku moment. But a Team 7 moment that shows Naruto and Sakura missing the other part of their team.

If people say you're making to big of a deal about the teardrop falling on Sasuke, point out that's an example. Thing is Kishimoto could have done something, anything, to single out Sasuke but didn't. Feel free to draw connections to the good-bye scene which shows what made Sakura happy was Team 7 (those her thoughts, none of Sasuke alone) rather than Sasuke (though she did give him credit).

Also, do not try to make a NaruSaku moment outside of the Team 7 contxt. You can only hurt yourself (at least against an intelligent debater).

"Proof": She got turned on by Sasuke in Kohanamaru's Sexy Jutsu.

Counter: Physical attraction does not imply love. Otherwise she "loves" Sai also. And Naruto loves Kohanamaru's first attempt. And the Third and Jiraya love a female version of Naruto. Really, if they're argueing this, you have them on the ropes.

Extra Counter: This a counter against the "she still loves him" arguement that's not against any "proof" that they provide. But can be made against it in general. On the Grass Bridge, Sakura never said anything against Kabuto and Orochimaru when they claimed Sasuke for themselves (though Naruto did). She did however yell at Kabuto for hurting/insulting Naruto's feelings. This of course isn't alot of proof of NaruSaku over SasuSaku, but ask the obvious question when pointing it out. If Sakura still loved Sasuke romantically and had no problem defending Naruto's feelings, wouldn't she yell at them for that? Not absolute proof against her still loving him, but again the burden of proof is not on us.

Bonus: If you are debating a NaruHina fan who is not a SasuSaku fan on this, ask him/her why they are debating. One of three things will happen:

1. They will ignore it. Keep asking.

2. They will realize they just got caught up in the debate and drop this point since they don't care about SasuSaku. Or if they are clever, they'll see you're trying to get them to do number three and drop the point pretending to to be caught up in the debate.

3. They will (accidently) admit that SasuSaku happening is really the only way that NaruHina will.

I think that's all of it. I'll post again if I can think of anything more. Please feel free to add to this argument.