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[Laylo]

Spoilers from the latest chapter..

 

This chapter seriously opened my eyes. Like (excuse me for cussing) but damn. Seriously.

 

I never could see the abusive undertones before because like many SasuSaku fans I really only saw the redemption aspect.

 

Sure I haven't shipped SasuSaku since part 1 (and yeah on other forums I will defend NaruSaku because SasuSaku arguments against it do rely on hypocrisy and double standards), but I've always been a fan of it and really, I thought the bad moments weren't THAT bad. I always thought anger at Sasuke's attitude towards Sakura was just exaggerated mainly because the lack of SasuSaku interaction in part 2 made it hard for me to idk see what was so wrong.

 

Even the murder attempts were just so extreme that they appeared to be situation specific (to be fair I apply that to confession as well. When will Sakura EVER have to use her feelings for Naruto like that again?). It was a low point for Sasuke, but not THE lowest you know? I couldn't imagine him trying to kill Sakura again.

 

But what just happened in this chapter? I don't know if you get this, but it affected me WAY more than anything Sasuke has done in the past.

 

Because it was just so damn realistic of abusive cases. I mean I physically cannot even get mad at Sakura and I definitely CANNOT get mad at Kishimoto for writing her reaction that way because have you seen this unfold in real life? Do you know how hard it would've been for Sakura to stand up for herself? This was shockingly realistic for me! In fact the way Naruto stood up for her I feel was the best way to handle it! Sakura will eventually have to come around, but I understand why Kishimoto is making it take a while for her too. Defending someone else is realistically a LOT easier than defending yourself especially in a relationship like Sakura's and Sasuke's.

 

Someone pointed out that even Sakura's body language communicated the dark understones and I definitely agree. So so so so damn much. This was just all around painful to read.

 

I honestly don't think ANY moment has made me feel bad as what happened in this chapter.

 

And what's worse is seeing other SasuSaku fans treat the moment like it was nothing.

 

'Sasuke's rude to everyone' - HOW THE HELL IS THAT A GOOD THING kitten? And I looked through the 678 thread and I agree SO much ramenanmistu. Sasuke was never pointlessly rude. When he first called Sakura useless it was back in part 1 when she wanted to go on a date with him instead of train and even then it didn't come across as rude as it did now. And how can you sit there and ACT like Sakura has special meaning to Sasuke EXCEPT in cases like this?!

 

'I think what Sasuke did to Kakashi was ruder than what he did to Sakura'  - Shut the hell up. Kakashi deserved that no more than Sakura did but DO NOT kittening trivialize his attitude towards her just so your pairing will not look as bad. Especially when you say (or agree with the people saying) the above.

 

'Sasuke's actually just worried/butthurt that Sakura was injured last chapter and just wants to protect her'- I don't think they know what butthurt means. But I also don't think anyone expresses worry/concern like that not even Sasuke.

 

'Sasuke still cares because he protected her with Susanoo'- The best you can hope for is Sasuke finding use in Sakura's healing abilities because he clearly doesn't care nor respect her in any other way. Maybe in a future chapter when Naruto beats his ass down he'll think, 'All this time I still cared for my teammates' but my GOD if you honestly think Sasuke is aware of his 'care' then 'delusional' is not NEARLY a strong enough word to call you.

 

'Sakura needs to punt Sasuke in the face'- 'So that the light will immediately appear in Sasuke's eyes and he'll realize that this woman was strong all along and she's perfect for him'. I think EVERYONE agrees that Sakura needs to hurt Sasuke (badly) but the reasoning differs and some people's reasoning just makes me shake my head. A woman cannot just beat a man up and expect him to fall in love with her if they had the history Sasuke and Sakura have had. This does even apply gender reversed! Do you think that Sakura is falling even MORE in love with Sasuke because she sees how strong he is (of course they do)? Sakura isn't even falling in love with Naruto for his strength! This isn't part 1 where Sasuke was seen as SOOOOO cool for being the best in the class! kittening hell people! 

 

I cannot even believe what some of the SS fandom is saying. And the few rational ones who are calling Sasuke out on his kitten? People are trying to convince them why it's not so bad (adding the disclaimer of course that 'I don't agree with what he did THOOOOO!!!!').

 

Fanon SasuSaku>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Canon SasuSaku.

 

Give me a fanfic where Sasuke has his part 1 characterization just mature and twisted a little so that he'd accept a romance with Sakura? Yes please.

 

Have canon Sasuke sit there and think 'I'm doing this for your own good Sakura.' HELL TO THE NO!

 

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Sorry for stating what was probably obvious to all of you. Just a disillusioned SasuSaku fan expressing her feelings before she has to go to class.

 

Btw, NaruHina still stinks. But the only argument that really bothers me is some believe this chapter is proof that Naruto was reacting to Hinata last chapter because Sasuke had to tell him that everyone was in the genjutsu.

 

I still find that false because 1) Naruto didn't give Hinata any specific consideration. And B) it's much more likely that in the last chapter, Naruto was just realizing/remembering that while he and his teammates were still safe in Susanno, there were a bunch of other people out there who weren't and he wanted to see what was going on (as evident by him asking what is happening out there). And I still think Hinata's thoughts were meant to symbolize the alliance as a whole asking Naruto to help save them.

 

Or hell maybe she was already asleep and seeing her dream Naruto-kun walking towards her with roses. I really don't care about that pairing.

 

The only sweet moments that made me feel better were:

 

Naruto's face when Sasuke insulted Sakura and the way he defended her by pointing out her extreme use to the team (I don't think he was saying that Sasuke was better than him overall, just better at strategics and analysis...He still sounded kinda bitter when Sasuke said they were surrounded and Naruto replied with a rude sounding "I know.").

 

And Gaara's dream. That pulled on my heartstrings in a completely different way and I can't help but feel Kishimoto did that on purpose because the severe mood whiplash was seriously welcomed. For me at least.

 

I'll probably calm down in a couple of hours. Thanks for reading my rant. 

[Inferno180]

In truth, there isnt anything wrong with having a preferred ship even if its just terribly written, the problem is just some people still blindly believe sakura is just going to well be content and satisfied with sasuke even when this kitten occurs. I mean the girl only asked him a simple question, he says its no use telling you and you cannot do much, really the deal sakura doesnt like is being called useless as she used to feel that way to her team. Naruto took offense to that and kakashi said he and naruto too wanted to know what was going on and that sakura just wanted to see if there was a way to counter or face madara, make a plan, but sasuke just said shut up to kakashi and that he was leading. He couldnt just be calm and just explain the deal? Well as Kishi made Hinata trip for no reason, he made sasuke a huge kitten this chapter. Geez, are all uchchias kitten to others? Obito was a jerk to many, madara betrayed obito, sasuke is still a jerk, and black zetsu impaled the jerk madara.

[James S Cassidy]

In truth, there isnt anything wrong with having a preferred ship even if its just terribly written, the problem is just some people still blindly believe sakura is just going to well be content and satisfied with sasuke even when this kitten occurs. I mean the girl only asked him a simple question, he says its no use telling you and you cannot do much, really the deal sakura doesnt like is being called useless as she used to feel that way to her team. Naruto took offense to that and kakashi said he and naruto too wanted to know what was going on and that sakura just wanted to see if there was a way to counter or face madara, make a plan, but sasuke just said shut up to kakashi and that he was leading. He couldnt just be calm and just explain the deal? Well as Kishi made Hinata trip for no reason, he made sasuke a huge a**hole this chapter. Geez, are all uchchias a**holes to others? Obito was a jerk to many, madara betrayed obito, sasuke is still a jerk, and black zetsu impaled the jerk madara.

Itachi wasn't and if he ever was it was to "keep up appearances." He had to portray himself as the villain not because it was his nature, but because he was making the ultimate sacrifice.

Itachi seemed like the only person to truly be a good person and wasn't corrupted. Just put in a situation there was no right answer to. This is why I feel sorry for Itachi. His life was really bad.

Obito....I am not sure about this one. Yeah he was a jerk, but he wasn't a jerk because he is one. He was a jerk because he lost faith in the world and became cynical. It's wasn't really him, but Madara brain washing. It doesn't excuse it, but it is a reason. After Naruto knocked some sense, he wasn't a jerk anymore and remember who he really was as a person.

[sushi.]

Saying Sasuke is rude to everyone is just an excuse. It's just another way to swallow bad treatment and think "It's just the way he is". I hope they don't think that way in real life.

 

Sasuke is not rude to everyone. Even if, his love interest should be an exception. The exception is not Sakura, it is Karin. He does not treat her bad unless he is influenced by the curse of hatred. And when he is a kittenhead, she doesn't put up with it. I wish Sakura was as fearless as Karin when it comes to speaking up against Sasuke. :(

[harry4e]

In the past Sasuke had an excuse for his behaviour, he was mentally unstable, and being manipulated by Itachi, then Orichimaru, then Obito, but since his talk with Itachi he has had resolution, he is no longer being manipulated by anyone, his behaviour and actions are his own now, there are no longer any....BUT he's like that because he lost his family, But he's being manipulated, but the Curse seal is making him act crazy, there are no more but, he isn't being manipulated any more his issues with Itachi has been resolved his desire for revenge has been satisfied and he is no longer only partially informed, he has all the fact, more than everyone else infact.

 

His actions are his own now, everything he does is his own actions, nobody can defend him using excuse XYZ anymore....It's why his actions towards Sakura and Kakashi this chapter is by far his worst, before he had allot of unresolved issues, right now the Sasuke we see is the Sasuke he has decided he wants to be. That's why any actions he takes now feel much worst than before, he no longer has any excuse to fall back on.

 

Yeah Sakura's body language did strike me as odd, I wasn't sure if it was Kishi showing her being on guard for a possible attack or showing genuine fear of facing Sasuke, I'm not going to judge either way for now, Kishi has this bad habit of pulling sh-t where the Uchiha gets forgiven without any reason. Karin being a prime example.

Edited by harry4e, 28 May 2014 - 02:49 PM.