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In Topic: Naruto 460

23 August 2009 - 10:37 PM

QUOTE (Freakazoid @ Aug 21 2009, 11:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It would be so much funnier to reveal that it's Obito instead of a new character though!! biggrin.gif

I stick by that Sasuke isn't being controled. The way he was talking towards the samurai seemed pretty IC to me.

I have no idea what Madara is trying to do, it's got me pretty confused. I don't think Naruto can understand Sasuke at all now, even if he does understand why he is doing it, he's not going to sit back and let him do these things.

It should all be very interesting... I was thinking though. Where will Sakura end up? Will she meet with Naruto before arrving at the summit, will she run into team Cloud, or will she get to the summit before any of that? Since she thinks Naruto is at the summit after all. Thoughts?


I think for the moment Madara is has two immediate objectives....

For one he wants to keep Sasuke separated everything that could break Madara's influnce over him (I think that even if he's completely taken in by his negative emotions, Sasuke's still pretty labile)...

On the other hand Madara wants to analyze the new variable in his plans. Naruto thwarted his plans on several occasions and made 2 high-ranking Akatsuki members defect.
I find it interesting how he's going about this. This looks a lot like the speech he held with Sasuke, the one that made him go "We'll destroy Konoha"...
Seems like he wants to shake Naruto up and test if can be influenced. That dude just loves stirring up bad emotions in his targets...
I wonder how Naruto will take it...

I think Sakura will either enter during all the chaos or witness the aftermath... Maybe she'll find Sasuke fighting instead and will have to decide without being able to talk to Naruto before taking action.

Can't say for sure though, it's been pretty difficult with everything that's happening.

In Topic: Naruto 460 Spoilers

19 August 2009 - 06:53 AM

Isn't it more like speculation of Nja's part?
As far as I understood it Nja isn't sure whether that shadow means he's being controlled or if it's to symbolize Sasuke's hatred...
So no confirmation in the least...

Although his sudden shift in behaviour needs some explaining... Even Itachi didn't trigger a rampage of that sort.
So even if it's "just" his hatred, it should be elaborated on.

In Topic: Naruto 459

10 August 2009 - 03:19 PM

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QUOTE (Shadowmoon-Sakura @ Aug 10 2009, 12:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
To put it simply, Sasuke lost his common sense, and his rational way of thinking.

Charging randomly, with only the thought of defeating his enemies, is stupid. sleep.gif Sasuke has really changed, and only Naruto and Sakura can beat up sense into him. happy.gif

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Does the Madara = Danzou theory still hold?

Anyway, since Ao saw that Danzo's Sharingan was transplanted from Shisui, does that mean it was Danzo who really killed Shisui? huh.gif

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Let's consider this POSSIBILITY. <-- It's only a theory, so please don't take it too seriously. biggrin.gif

What if Danzou was really Madara, and Shisui is his brother?

Madara taught Itachi, right? As his master. As his teacher. As his sensei.

And, even helped him massacre his own clan.

But before all that happened, Madara told Itachi about the Mangekyou Sharingan.

Madara got it by killing his brother, (which I say can be Shisui), and taking his eyes --> In this case, his right eye.

We all thought that Itachi got it by killing Shisui, (which can be his bestfriend, since Madara would teach Itachi, and Shisui would visit them to see Itachi's progress, but, Shisui is already dead since he was killed by Madara ages ago. tongue.gif).

But what would have happened if Itachi really got the Mangekyou Sharingan not by killing Shisui, (who is already dead), but by killing his own clan, so he can get the Mangekyou to 'defeat' Madara/Danzou, and prevent the destruction of the Konoha village?

I know that it is a crazy theory, but I'm just throwing possibilities, because I was also confused, and tried to think about it as well.

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Summary --> Madara's brother = Shisui ;;; Madara's student = Itachi ;;; Itachi's 'supposed -to-be' bestfriend from who he got his MS from = Shisui ;;; But, in my insane theory, Itachi got his MS not from killing Shisui, but by killing his own clan --> The people he loved so much.

Since, Shisui was already killed by Madara/Danzou to get his unique ability.

Who can actually manipulate other people without the victim knowing what is really happening? That would be VERY awesome. wow.png Madara/Danzou would love to get his hands on that ability.

(Maybe he was jealous, that Shisui got that uber amazing ability but he did not, and he wanted more?)

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Don't get mad at me, please. Haha. laugh.gif

Feel free to state your opinions on this. I don't mind. Just please, don't react so harshly, that I would feel like you're screaming at me.

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Nice theory! There's only one thing that doesn't add up... Madara got his hands on the eternal Mangekyou Sharingan by first killing a person dear to him, and then stealing his brothers eyes.
If Shisui would be Madara's brother he'd be blind and would have had to steal a new pair of eyes first.
And the time of death for Madara's brother must be 50-60 years in the past (if not more)... No comparison to the 16 years that passed since the Uchiha massacre.

In Topic: Naruto 459

10 August 2009 - 10:18 AM

QUOTE (Daidoji_Tangen @ Aug 10 2009, 03:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sasuke....Sasuke just isn't that smart. Oh, he has some brains. He just lets his passions take over and charges in there randomly. Sadly, the Deidara fight seemed to be only a fluke. Look at a few chapters ago. He was surprised he went right through Madara again. Was he expecting a different effect?


I think he's trying to figure out Madara's powers from up close... He's a smart fighter, but most of the time he just doesn't bother looking at things in detail (I guess that's one of the reasons Itachi could still fight him to that extent in the shape he was in). He, like Naruto used to sometimes, let's his emotions get the better of him... And sometimes he just seems to not give a damn...
That unfortunately doesn't make him a good leader...

QUOTE (Daidoji_Tangen @ Aug 10 2009, 03:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think when Naruto learns why Sasuke is doing what he is doing, he'll understand if not knowing what to do. I kinda suspect him to beat Sasuke, and let him go after he learns about the Uchiha clan. But I have been wrong before.....

About your last paragraph, three observations:

1. While Raikage definitely has something going on, he may not be malicious. He told Naruto he sees the world as only war. He could be plotting something, or he could just be paranoid about when Cloud will be attacked.


That's true... But unless this is clarified once, I guess he was the one who staged the Hyuuga incident. It would fit his character to ask for reparations for a killed subordinate.
And I'm sure he had his reasons for that, apart of getting his hands on a powerful bloodline limit. Not even him would risk war so soon after one of the great ninja wars without a very good reason.
I think he's suspicious. And his talk about how there shouldn't be compromises or concessions, doesn't further my trust in him.

But his last line that Naruto should "think long and hard on what he ought do right now" (in 457) makes me wonder... It looks like he gave Naruto a hint how to get his acknowledgment.

QUOTE (Daidoji_Tangen @ Aug 10 2009, 03:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
2. I think it was only Danzo/Mifune referring to Naruto like that. While the Mizukage's statements show no particular worry for the junchuuriki, they will not necessary see Naruto as a tool. I think their meeting Naruto will have an effect on that.


Maybe... But this seems to be the usual outlook one jinchuuriki... Konoha's advisors are similar.
Naruto will have to prove himself I think...

QUOTE (Daidoji_Tangen @ Aug 10 2009, 03:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
3. An attack that is happening. I believe Danzo could be working with the Akatsuki (he clearly has no problem allying with enemies to Konoha: see Orchimaru), and an attack would help his cause. I think someone already brought it up in this Thread.


That's true... Danzou didn't seem surprised when Pain attacked and was already prepared to make his move. At least he's got a lot of intel on Akatsuki.

In Topic: Naruto 459

08 August 2009 - 11:24 PM

Lots of good replies here already smile.gif

I didn't realize people would give Ino such a hard time... I don't know what she's thinking, but deciding on killing a former crush isn't easy. Maybe she's got another reason though.

Since things have progressed this far, just "getting Sasuke back" would start a load of problems, mainly with the other villages.
If there is another attempt it will probably the last. Seems Naruto is also sitting on needles and is running out of reasons not to view Sasuke as criminal.
In my opinion that was a slow process but we've only seen a small part of it until now.
Be that as it may knowing Shikamaru's efficiency their team will have a good chance of succeeding.

Sasuke... I'm not sure whether he's got a secret plan or really is like a leaf caught in a current. It seems to be the latter...
I wonder what's going through his mind, with his reckless approach of invading the meeting. Sure, Zetsu's entrance (which was creepy and awesome) and the ensueing chaos might work in his favor but we're talking about 5 Kage and 10 bodyguards... (!)

Lastly... They're running out of trustworthy people at the meeting... Danzou screwed up big-time. Raikage has a secret agenda (actually I'm equally cautious of him and Danzou... Seriously what's with "I won't be part of an alliance which will make me reveal my village's plans!")
While Naruto would be a logical candidate, I doubt he'd be accepted. They're not even acknowledging him, it's just "the Kyuubi belongs to Konoha". Before they see him as more than a weapon, it probably won't happen.
Looks like the only thing that could get them to work together is a direct attack by Akatsuki..
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