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As far as the story goes NH and SS are almost extinct but the pairing wars still rage on. The Kushina parallel we won but NH and SS still speculate that a near future moment would bring them back on track.

Things seem calm yet on Tumblr for example there are cases of intentional cross tagging. I check only the NS tag but some SS fan was flooding it with SS fanart that it felt like he tried to brainwash us. But it's just immaturity things for NS right now aren't as fickle as they were after 615. And as for a SS scene on the level of NH's 615 one is highly unlikely and if that happens it will surely become irrelevant after the Sasuke and Naruto fight heat up.

 

But on another note it looks like NS still needs some development far away from the other 2 main pairings to sort their relationship up. It isn't like before, when NS fate was dependent on SS's fate but now it's the other way around.

 

Well, of course the pairing wars are still raging on. I bet even when NaruSaku becomes canon, you'll still have NH/SS fans arguing with how OCC it is or unrealistic it is. It'll be like an intense aftershock once the deed is done, and it'll last a few more years after the series ends. It'll be chaos, absolute chaos. That's what happens when you have pairing wars to the intensity of the Naruto fandom.  How it ever got this bad I will never know.

 

Look, I've tried to be open-minded for the sake of the NH/SS fans. I was really good at it for a long time until Minato did the Kushina/Sakura comparison. And now ... now I just can't see it like I used to. The only way Kishi could do NaruHina/SasuSaku is the asspull of all asspulls. And I'm sorry to them, but I follow consistency and common sense. If Naruto was able to say Sakura was "more or less" his girlfriend that easily to his father in front of Hinata no less, then there is no romantic conflict for him. We know Naruto. He's true to himself, he would have never been that bold if he was sprouting feelings for Hinata. It's like what I say about Sakura's confession. If Naruto had a romantic conflict then, he would've had a flashback of Hinata with an uncertain expression. Unless I'm blind, Naruto didn't think of Hinata at all during that time.  She wasn't the cause of his conflict, it was Sakura possibly lying about loving him and giving up on Sasuke.

 

Sakura is the one with the romantic conflict. SS vs. NS. Just like Kishi has always intended. The purpose of NH all along was for Hinata character development and a red herring. And I've seen SS as dead for while because Sasuke would never fall for Sakura, so I'm not even concerned. Me? I'm only waiting for Sakura and Naruto to realize she is starting to love him. That's all I care about, pairing-wise.

 

 

As for why NH always have a fangirl attack if Naruto and Hinata are looking at each other, you can't really blame them. The times the two interact are few and far between.

I can honestly say I'm not even worried about the pairing wars anymore. It's fairly obvious we won, I mean how many more hints/foreshadowing does Kishi have to throw to fandom for them to get it?  It was all over as soon as Minato confirmed Sakura was like Kushina and Naruto said she was "more or less" his girlfriend. Naruto confirmed his feelings for Sakura still existed right in front of Hinata, I mean come on. The dude can't just drop his own feelings like that and given how late in the story it is, he's probably not gonna. And Kishi did not have to have Minato think she was like Kushina, it was entirely unnecessary. It serves a purpose, a pairing purpose. Couple that with Kushina's "find a girl like your mother" line and it's foreshadowing in big black letters.

 

Okay yes, NaruSaku isn't canon yet. It still has obstacles of course! Sakura is still struggling with the remnants of her feelings for Sasuke and Naruto most likely doesn't think Sakura loves him the same way. But we still have things in our favor. Sakura does not trust Sasuke and given how he most likely plans to kill Naruto, it's not looking good for her feelings for him. And Naruto has accepted that their relationship is more complicated than friendship, something he was unaware of during the Kage Summit. It's a start to finally breaking Naruto's wall in his mind that says she does not love and will only love Sasuke. This is good, really good.

 

I don't want Sakura to chose Naruto just because Sasuke still has twisted intentions, but I'm fairly certain she has stronger feelings for Naruto than she does Sasuke. She just has to realize it. See this is where I draw a blank. I know it's gonna happen, but I'm not sure how Kishi will execute it.

 

The dude better do a good job when the moment comes. I don't want it to be half-assed, I want it to be emotional and convincing. Hopefully my faith in Kishi won't be wasted.

 

As for the NaruHina fans, here's a good quote that likely sums up their opinions:

 

"People tend to trust in what they can handle, and rationalize what they can't."

Awesome chapter! It's really nice to see all of the rookies move forward and show off their new abilities in battle. The SasuNaru rivalry and Competitive Kiba make me laugh.  And of course that last panel .... Team 7 summoning. BOSS. I'm really happy Sakura can summon now, but I'm unsatisfied in how out of the blue it was. Covers Foreshadowing is nice, but Kishi could've at least shown Sakura training so it doesn't seem like a complete asspull. Oh, Kishi.

 

Poor Sai .... he gets no love.

 

And as for Hinata .... yeah, I'll admit it I was pretty annoyed by her. I'm really proud of Hinata for getting the closing of her development and having the strength to keep fighting, a very good moment of hers. Yet .... can I say I'm just so done with her obsession with Naruto?  It's really annoying how she depends so heavily on Naruto for confidence, she can never stand draw strength from herself. I hope you're right that this chapter is implying she's moving on from Naruto 'cause if not, this girl is hopeless. The "I've always been by your side" comment made me laugh. I hope Hinata meant that in "always supporting him" way, not a "always been there for you" way.

 

I've also come to the conclusion that Sakura symbolizes feminism while Hinata symbolizes anti-feminism. Sakura's character has a better independent message.

As far as I'm concerned, Sakura's not really in love with Sasuke. At least not this Sasuke. The background of her current "love" for Sasuke is solely because of the Part 1 Sasuke that she knew and loved. She's essentially holding on to the memory of who Sasuke was, which affects how she feels for the present Sasuke. More or less, Sakura's in love with a memory. I daresay Karin isn't, as dysfunctional and unhealthy as it is, simply because she traveled with the Sasuke who left the village. I dislike SasuKarin, but this is one of the reasons it's "better" than SasuSaku. At least you can't say Karin doesn't know him or that Sakura knows him better.   

 

That's why I believe Sakura's feelings for Sasuke will resurface if he plans on staying on the "good" side.  But this doesn't threaten us because Sakura's has an extremely strong bond with Naruto, far stronger than her bond to Sasuke. So yep, Sakura will likely chose Naruto.

I know this is ridiculous  However, some of them may have some good points. One naruhina fan say to me that he acknowledge the fact that Sakura is indeed a parallel to Sakura. However , the problem is that it's the same for Naruto. He use this first pannel as a proof

 

So he clealery said to me that Naruto and Sakura can't end up together because they have the same personality, and Naruto should end up with someone like Minato ( Hinata i guess ) to have the same relationship that MinaKushi had. What do you think about that ?

 

 

I know many people have already responded to this, but let me put in my two cents. Of course Naruto is like Kushina, but he's also like Minato as well. He's a parallel to Kushina in terms of playfulness and a short temper, but he's more strongly associated as a parallel to Minato. Not because he's the most like him (He has similarities, but not as much as with his mother), but because his goal to become Hokage is the same. They both want to protect and take care of the village as it's leader. This is emphasized over and over as important in the series, it can't be overlooked.

 

Itachi's speech also made it clear that it was Kushina (the romantic love interest) and the others who helped Minato become Hokage. Clearly, this is meant to parallel to Naruto's own love interest. Already, Sakura has been shown to be the very first to truly support Naruto's dream as Hokage. She didn't believe he could do it, but she didn't want his dream taken away from him. Now add this with Sakura's continous involvement in Naruto's life when it comes to his burdens/conflicts. Minato then compared Sakura to Kushina in 631. Kushina said "Find a girl like your mother." Minato was there when she said this, and he agreed with it. It's already pretty obvious with his parental approval of Sakura being Naruto's "girlfriend".

 

I cannot stress this enough, but Hinata is not like Minato. Polite and friendly attitude? Maybe. Confident and self-sacrificing? Nah.  You need more than two measly similarities to make a parallel. Besides, even if Hinata was like Minato, Kushina was very specific. She said find a girl like your mother, not a girl like your father.

 

I really don't understand why NaruHina fans find a relationship with two Kushinas distasteful. It's more interesting IMO!  Both Sakura and Naruto have temper problems, but Sakura still sports the more level-headed and intelligent personality. Kinda like Minato, actually. Ironic, huh?

I'm actually looking forward to the Sakura bashers reactions to this chapter. I haven't run across them yet, but I know exactly where to look to find them. Just click on Sawyer7mage's video if/when he puts it up on Youtube and 'voila .... raging Sakura haters/NH fans/SS fans.  I know I shouldn't waste my time on them, but I just can't resist arguing with them and their irrationality after 632. 

 

The love triangle is definitely being restablished. It has to be, Sakura's main conflict right now over her romantic life is her lingering love for Sasuke and romantic feelings for Naruto. She still has to chose between the two of them, it's not done yet. Though compared to Part 1, it's gonna end differently. Naruto's love for Sakura has been reaffirmed in 631 and now 632 through that jealous moment. That alone is a pretty heavy indicater Sakura will chose him, since Naruto is the main character.

 

So yes, the love triangle is heating up but only before getting it's final resolution. This is what Kishi intended to do all along.

Uh .... kinda complicated question. I'm sure Naruto himself doesn't really know where he and Sakura stand since her confession. Not really anyway, even though he likely thinks she doesn't love him still. I don't think it was joke considering his feelings exactly. Naruto's feelings for Sakura are still serious, but I don't think he actually meant she was his girlfriend, you know? More like "it's complicated". Hence the "more or less" part.

I kind of see this line from Naruto as expressing his uncertainity on what exactly his relationship with Sakura is. Probably why he didn't get all embarassed and smug over it like he did the last time with Konohamaru.

I actually do think Kishi is swayed by fan demand. Possibly editors, but I'm sure about fan demand. Let me explain why.

I don't think Kishimoto is truly letting the fans corrupt his story. He has his own ideas of things. And the fan demand does not affect the story in what ship is going to be the end pairing. NaruHina won't happen because of fan demand, Kishimoto's more or less ignoring his American follows. Including us and the crazy NaruHina fans on the Western side. Contray to what they want to believe, they don't have Kishi on their side. And if he paid any mind to the Westerners, he wouldn't of killed Itachi; a character in the top 5 most popular in American polls. Kishimoto likely hasn't changed his mind about making NaruSaku canon.

The part where fan demand comes in is the several shipping teases in the War arc that has a obvious lack of NaruSaku so far. SasuKarin, SasuSaku, and they one we've most noticed NaruHina. Kishimoto loves his fans, even the insane ones. So what he's IMO doing is "trying to please everyone" storytelling tactic. Kishimoto feels bad about not making those ships canon and disappointing the fans so what he's doing is giving them something to enjoy until the crushing destruction of it. Pretty much Avatar 2.0 with Zutara vs. Kataang.

The thing Kishimoto is unaware of is the effect he's having on the romantic subplot. Sure, it's good to make things ambigious and keep mystery. But he's purposely skewing and twisting the waters to the point no one really knows what's what. Feeding the NaruHina/SasuSaku fanbase like this is giving them unneccessary hope and making them more cocky. More and more people are shouting NH is canon without looking at the whole picture. And part of me doesn't blame them for thinking this. I know the ships won't happen, but they don't. And in the end, he is gonna piss off several people with his trolling.

It's like waving food in front of a starving individual and then eating it in front of them. You're taunting them with something they can never have and then adding insult to injury by doing the opposite. Maybe I'm just your typical arrogant 'ole NaruSaku fan, but that's what my eyes are seeing with Kishi and the fanbase as of lately. And NaruSaku quality is suffering as a result and not making it as believable.

Kishimoto won't please everyone, there is always going to be fans who are unsatisfied and calling whatever he's doing BS. Given certain parts of the shipping fandoms shoutouts like this won't make the blow softer by any means.