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Posted 08 August 2013 - 03:36 AM

While I don't want to bash here, yeah, I saw that and it was....well the less said, the better.

 

Anyway, people really thinks that he dropped the feeling because many reasons, and one of them is not responding to Kushina's part of wish, which is find that love one. To be honest, after 631, I believe it was left out on purpose because it would be odd for Naruto to say, "Hey, I got a girl who is like you." It's best for the parent (Minato) to approve this and luckily, we have. That said I do believe Minato is not done with Naruto and Sakura, so expect last wishes and such. It's only going to get worse since Obito is being dealt with. I am starting to feel that we got this in the bag, but let's not get cocky. Karma.

lols yeah , Karma can be a B**ch but , yeah we pretty much got it in the bag ,especially when Naruto answered the question Minato directed to Sakura . And Naruto answered for her . that confirmed he is in love with her . Sakura hit him but not for the fact he called her his Girlfriend . NH fans want to ask what about the incident when Konohamaru said the same thing . See the difference with that statement was Sakura did deny it at that time . 


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 04:14 AM

While I don't want to bash here, yeah, I saw that and it was....well the less said, the better.
 
Anyway, people really thinks that he dropped the feeling because many reasons, and one of them is not responding to Kushina's part of wish, which is find that love one. To be honest, after 631, I believe it was left out on purpose because it would be odd for Naruto to say, "Hey, I got a girl who is like you." It's best for the parent (Minato) to approve this and luckily, we have. That said I do believe Minato is not done with Naruto and Sakura, so expect last wishes and such. It's only going to get worse since Obito is being dealt with. I am starting to feel that we got this in the bag, but let's not get cocky. Karma.


If naruto had mentioned that, it would basically mean game over, NaruSaku is endgame. Kishi cannot make it THAT obvious at that point in the manga. Usually, what NaruHina fans say at this point is beyond hilarious and not to be taken seriously. They have not been right about a single one of their predictions so far so what makes people think they will start winning now? It's true, it's pretty much said and done. Naruhina is actually the biggest fanservice couple in the manga tbh because there is no personal development share between both of them. It's sad but NaruHina is legit done, unless kishi pulls a 180 and asspulls it which I highly doubt he would because we have a manga full of evidence.

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 04:20 AM

If naruto had mentioned that, it would basically mean game over, NaruSaku is endgame. Kishi cannot make it THAT obvious at that point in the manga. Usually, what NaruHina fans say at this point is beyond hilarious and not to be taken seriously. They have not been right about a single one of their predictions so far so what makes people think they will start winning now? It's true, it's pretty much said and done. Naruhina is actually the biggest fanservice couple in the manga tbh because there is no personal development share between both of them. It's sad but NaruHina is legit done, unless kishi pulls a 180 and asspulls it which I highly doubt he would because we have a manga full of evidence.

yeah and the fact NaruHina was done when Hinata fufilled her nindo and held Naruto'a hand in which Naruto was oblivious too because he did it as a act to probably make her stronger .But Sakura imo was jealous of this moment as well as the speech Hinata gave Naruto . NH anD SS say it can be interpreted many ways , imo its pretty much clear what Kishi was conveying . 


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 04:44 AM

That forehead scene , not to mention Naruto still hasn't confessed will be the best . I mean Sakura won't possibly turn Naruto down when he says he loves her , thats when she will realize that she is actually in love with naruto .


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 05:45 AM

After getting bashed like crazy on Youtube over a comment I left six months ago, I find a lot of posts here to be quite...refreshing. I have to wonder where a lot of these NH fans come up with a lot of their BS. Do they just wake up in the morning and go 'Oh, yeah, I can say that to turn down those stupid NS supporters.' It's just unbelievable With what they come up with sometimes  :glare:



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Posted 08 August 2013 - 05:51 AM

After getting bashed like crazy on Youtube over a comment I left six months ago, I find a lot of posts here to be quite...refreshing. I have to wonder where a lot of these NH fans come up with a lot of their BS. Do they just wake up in the morning and go 'Oh, yeah, I can say that to turn down those stupid NS supporters.' It's just unbelievable With what they come up with sometimes  :glare:

what did they say .?  Hinata is beautiful .? naruto is falling for Hinata and he will ditch Sakura . 


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 06:02 AM

LOLS I JUST READ A FORUM DISCUSSING 635 , AND THEY ARE SAYING SAKURA IS ACCEPTING SASUKE AND THAT SHE TRUSTS HIM AND WANTS TO BE WITH HIM .


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 06:02 AM

The level of bashing that is going on in this thread right now is making me too uncomfortable to participate in any discussion. :ermm:

As a reminder, here is a copy/paste from the Debate Rules of Conduct (http://www.narusaku....?showtopic=2435):

For a while, the mods and admins of H&E have been concerned at the increase in character bashing and attacks on other pairings. This of course led to a reduction in quality of the discussions, boiling down to cheap shots.

We have decided to close the Rant Thread and Pairings Tagline thread, and replace them with a debate thread. This debate thread is not for bashing characters, pairings, and their fans.

 

It's perfectly fine to post an explanation of why you don't like such-and-such pairing, why this or that pairing won't work. But we do not want to see things like "NaruHinas are so stupid. See?" No personal attacks, no posts that just consist of bashing.

We want to see more of things like scene discussions, discussion of theories, etc. The things that make a pairings debate interesting and thought-provoking.

The reason we also want to stop character bashing is because it very quickly leads to bashing of fans of that character/pairing.

Even if the people being bashed are not members of this board, the rules still apply as if they were members.

I know that there is no love lost between NaruSaku and its rival fanclubs, but we would like the board to project a good image. We have plenty of members who also like NaruHina, SasuSaku, LeeSaku, etc.

 

We want to welcome people, not alienate them. smile.gif

While we have highlighted the rules in this forum, please remember they also apply to the entire board.

Thank you for your cooperation!

BTW, this post may or may not be edited to clarify wording or add/omit things. Please check back if I have edited it.


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 06:09 AM

The level of bashing that is going on in this thread right now is making me too uncomfortable to participate in any discussion. :ermm:

As a reminder, here is a copy/paste from the Debate Rules of Conduct (http://www.narusaku....?showtopic=2435):

wHAT ABOUT CHAPTER 635 , AND HOW PEOPLE ARE SAYING SHE TRUSTS SASUKE AND WANTS HIM BACK .? I THINK SHE DOESN'T TRUST HIM AT ALL AND WANTS NOTHING TO DO WITH SASUKE . 


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 06:09 AM

Well, to be fair, Superman333 is a new user, so allow me to say, we don't allow bashing here. Just a heads up, ok. If you want to bring another pairing here, make sure you have a reason behind it, and no, bashing is not a reason. So yeah, no hard feelings, just to let you know.



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Posted 08 August 2013 - 06:15 AM

wHAT ABOUT CHAPTER 635 , AND HOW PEOPLE ARE SAYING SHE TRUSTS SASUKE AND WANTS HIM BACK .? I THINK SHE DOESN'T TRUST HIM AT ALL AND WANTS NOTHING TO DO WITH SASUKE . 

 

It's fine if you want to discuss why you do or do not agree with that argument, but don't make comments that bash or lead to bashing of other fandoms, pairings, or characters. It's against the rules: http://www.narusaku....?showtopic=2663



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Posted 08 August 2013 - 06:16 AM

Well, to be fair, Superman333 is a new user, so allow me to say, we don't allow bashing here. Just a heads up, ok. If you want to bring another pairing here, make sure you have a reason behind it, and no, bashing is not a reason. So yeah, no hard feelings, just to let you know.

LOLS I DIDNT EVEN KNOW WHAT BASHING MEANT BUT ALRIGHT IMA LEAVE THEM OUT . BUT WHATS YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE WHOLE 635 THING BECAUSE I BELIEVE SHE GENUINELY WANTS NOTHING TO DO WITH SASUKE . 


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 06:18 AM

 

It's fine if you want to discuss why you do or do not agree with that argument, but don't make comments that bash or lead to bashing of other fandoms, pairings, or characters. It's against the rules: http://www.narusaku....?showtopic=2663

lols my fault I aint even much know what bashing was til now . But whats your thoughts on that situation .? Do you think she will take Sasuke's side over Naruto's side in the end .? 


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 06:26 AM

lols my fault I aint even much know what bashing was til now . But whats your thoughts on that situation .? Do you think she will take Sasuke's side over Naruto's side in the end .? 

 

That's okay. Thank you for cooperating. :smile:

 

Personally, I don't think Sakura trusts Sasuke, and I doubt she would ever side with him. Especially not if he wants to eliminate Naruto - and by the looks of it, he does.



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Posted 08 August 2013 - 06:27 AM

Considering that Sakura glared and yelled at Sasuke just for badmouthing Naruto, and the fact that she put Naruto's safety and wellbeing before Sasuke's when she told him, "I don't want you chasing after Sasuke anymore if it means putting you in danger,"  I think its ludicrous to think that Sakura won't side with Naruto against Sasuke - especially if Sasuke is trying to kill him.

 

As far as Sakura trusting Sasuke goes, I agree with Slextrem - I don't believe that Sakura does.  Kishimoto made sure to follow up Sakura's words with a huge panel of Sakura's fake smile, and even went so far as to have Sai explicitly state that's what it was.  Not to mention how wary of Sasuke she was when he first arrived to back them up in 631.


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 06:31 AM

 

That's okay. Thank you for cooperating. :smile:

 

Personally, I don't think Sakura trusts Sasuke, and I doubt she would ever side with him. Especially not if he wants to eliminate Naruto - and by the looks of it, he does.

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and thats what I'm saying it would be a total downgrade for Sakura's character as a whole and I don't really don't see her betraying Naruto being that 99 times out of 100 she is in love with Naruto by now . The Sasuke returning thing probably just caught her by surprise and Kishi is showing us how that fake smile is making her realize the feeling ain't there no more . But for someone else (Naruto) . 


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 06:36 AM

Considering that Sakura glared and yelled at Sasuke just for badmouthing Naruto, and the fact that she put Naruto's safety and wellbeing before Sasuke's when she told him, "I don't want you chasing after Sasuke anymore if it means putting you in danger,"  I think its ludicrous to think that Sakura won't side with Naruto against Sasuke - especially if Sasuke is trying to kill him.

 

As far as Sakura trusting Sasuke goes, I agree with Slextrem - I don't believe that Sakura does.  Kishimoto made sure to follow up Sakura's words with a huge panel of Sakura's fake smile, and even went so far as to have Sai explicitly state that's what it was.  Not to mention how wary of Sasuke she was when he first arrived to back them up in 631.

I would like to add to this the fact that it is always naruto that brings up Sasuke into any conversation , Sakura tries to constantly get naruto to forget about Sasuke , imo she was just trying to get closer to Naruto . I think she will try to protect Naruto and she might get hurt and then naruto will go beserk on Sasuke . 

 

Exactly she doens't want to trust him , she is probably wondering why he even came back , I think the ony reason she is happy is because now Naruto's promise can be put to rest finally and the man she loves (naruto) doesn't have to strain himself anymore . 


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 06:38 AM

Sakura don't trust Sasuke and sadly, well for others", she is right on the money. Sasuke has no desire to show a good light from him. You know how character usually become a different guy after their last bad action? Well, Sasuke has not done one thing that tells everyone he has become good and no problems with Naruto. Sasuke has a plan, or at least that's what Orochimaru insisted, so yeah, when this is all over, the enemy of my enemy is my friend will end. There's no hint of trying to convert that frown upside down. The only hint is that Sasuke is up to something that many wouldn't like it. It's mostly selfish.

 

It's odd because I once thought the smile part would be put in action to make her reconsider. As cruel I may sound, but I'm happy that Kishi didn't follow up with that because enough is enough. Sai is a guy who is in Team 7 and when Sasuke returned, he doesn't know what to feel. He should be happy, yet he feels lost, which is bad because it should be a good thing and Sakura didn't help. So pretty much, we kept getting hints from Sasuke and more and more shows that he has still bad intentions in mind, especially killing Naruto. In the end, SS is in red zone because Sakura is really on the edge of the cliff for this. Naruto has proven that he will never change, so Sakura has the ball.



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Posted 08 August 2013 - 06:54 AM

Sakura don't trust Sasuke and sadly, well for others", she is right on the money. Sasuke has no desire to show a good light from him. You know how character usually become a different guy after their last bad action? Well, Sasuke has not done one thing that tells everyone he has become good and no problems with Naruto. Sasuke has a plan, or at least that's what Orochimaru insisted, so yeah, when this is all over, the enemy of my enemy is my friend will end. There's no hint of trying to convert that frown upside down. The only hint is that Sasuke is up to something that many wouldn't like it. It's mostly selfish.

 

It's odd because I once thought the smile part would be put in action to make her reconsider. As cruel I may sound, but I'm happy that Kishi didn't follow up with that because enough is enough. Sai is a guy who is in Team 7 and when Sasuke returned, he doesn't know what to feel. He should be happy, yet he feels lost, which is bad because it should be a good thing and Sakura didn't help. So pretty much, we kept getting hints from Sasuke and more and more shows that he has still bad intentions in mind, especially killing Naruto. In the end, SS is in red zone because Sakura is really on the edge of the cliff for this. Naruto has proven that he will never change, so Sakura has the ball.

i agree with this 100 percent , but what really tipped me off about his intentions was the fact that he came back out of nowehere stating that he will become Hokage . Shikamaru even said that he don't trust Sasuke one bit , Shikamaru said he never liked Sasuke ata all and like Choji says Shikamaru is always right . That was some foreshadowing in my opinion . Sasuke looks indifferent to everybody , he came back to gain more power probably , he came back to finish what his brother started maybe but all I know is Kishi better not be trying to redeem him because sasuke is too long gone , even naruto doesn't trust him . 

 

Yeah the smile is what made SS pretty much dead , you can't love somebody if you don't truly trust them . Sakura better not hesistate to kill sasuke if its need be , because kishi might give her this oppurtunity again . 


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 07:05 AM

i agree with this 100 percent , but what really tipped me off about his intentions was the fact that he came back out of nowehere stating that he will become Hokage . Shikamaru even said that he don't trust Sasuke one bit , Shikamaru said he never liked Sasuke ata all and like Choji says Shikamaru is always right . That was some foreshadowing in my opinion . Sasuke looks indifferent to everybody , he came back to gain more power probably , he came back to finish what his brother started maybe but all I know is Kishi better not be trying to redeem him because sasuke is too long gone , even naruto doesn't trust him . 

 

Yeah the smile is what made SS pretty much dead , you can't love somebody if you don't truly trust them . Sakura better not hesistate to kill sasuke if its need be , because kishi might give her this oppurtunity again . 

Yeah. The buildup for not giving Sasuke a chance is still going and there's too many of them. There were some ways to make it a redeem factors, but it has more towards to "Not trustworthy," especially since Shikamaru got the idea but not letting it spread. Again, Sasuke is not looking for redemption. All I can hope is to end it once and for all. No reason to negate only to go back.

 

Actually, at some case, you can argue that Sasuke's return isn't really all that great to begin with for Sakura and most likely everyone from Konoha. It feels like "Well, he's back to do something good. What's wrong? Why not happy?" It's like if you're stuck in an island with a girl, who later becomes your lover, then your friends find you and want to rescue you guys, but you start to feel like, "I want to stay here with her. We can live together." Selfish but that's just mentality. Anyway, don't take it this way in case of karma effect, but I wouldn't blame you if you feel this way. I do at times. It feels like only Naruto is the only one that's happy and everyone else pretty much say, "The damage is done."






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