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#3241 BecauseYouLetRinDie

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 04:22 AM

This will change in the movie...
Its about love, it will be filled with ss and NH moments i guess

Its kind of sad though that they need a movie to show the development that should have been given to them, and have more interaction between them in the manga, and thats mostly speaking for naruhina because I can give no excuses or reasons as to why sasusaku happened. But no he decided to waste those panels to develop a pair that literally became useless in the end.

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 04:22 AM

Kishi deserves all the criticism he gets. Kishi If you're getting hate mail than it's your own fault. You did this to yourself. You made your bed now lie in it.(I can't believe I quote one of my hated sportswriters)

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 04:23 AM

 
Very entertaining. The flames were quickly eating away at the volume's depth in no time at all, They must have been reveling in the taste and texture of it. Kishi's poorly constructed finale deserves every bit of condemnation it gets, and more. If the circumstances were reversed and we were the ones celebrating, many disgruntled SS/NH fans would likely be doing the same. So here's to the symbolic abnegation of this man's betrayal and half-assery. Cheers!


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Posted 07 November 2014 - 04:23 AM

Oh how I wish this was all just a big troll to get back at us for reading manga before release in Japan. But nope, looks like something happened that influenced Kishi to change his ending and in turn he just gave them what they wanted but gave them a big screw you with the rest of it.

Looking forward to Kishi's interview. He'll probably mirror his assistant's comments about how there was no "heroine/love interest" and Naruto hasn't pursued Sakura since the Pain arc. If everyone asks about parallels, he'll probably dodge the question by saying "they succeed in a different way".

 

I just don't see him being honest about this being a sell out ending. That would take guts to admit.



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Posted 07 November 2014 - 04:23 AM

Hey guys just thought of yet another loose end. We never got to see naruto and sasukes final powerup. Narutos abilities w/ both halves of kurama and sasukes other rinnegan :/

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 04:24 AM

This reminds me of the disappointment I had with the Red John reveal. Not as much as this but still, was very disappointed. Final Red John chapters were rushed and the episode was leaked early, but was so bad it felt like it was them trolling. Then the night it aired came and it was the same episode. Urgh!

 

EDIT: Funny thing, happened last year right around this time. Is this going to be a trend?


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Posted 07 November 2014 - 04:24 AM

Kishi...sigh. 

 

I don't even know what we can say.

 

Did he plan this from the get go? if so, what's with all that development if it never mattered in the end. 

 

Jiraiya: Failed to get girl he loved

Obito: Failed

Naruto: Failed

Hm. Well...

 

Jiraiya almost succeeded. Tsunade seemed like she was going to give him a chance...but then he died. 
Obito was even closer, but he and Rin were only able to grow closer, because they were both dead.
So yeah, Naruto was supposed to at least be able to win Sakura's heart and live. 

Poor, poor Naruto. I won't lie, I feel bad for Hinata. She was only able to win Naruto's heart because...well, apparently he's heartbroken. She' the rebound girl. 


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Posted 07 November 2014 - 04:24 AM

I'm seeing the lastest episode of Naruto and he said "I don't want to take the easy way."

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NH canon.

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 04:25 AM

Why the hell would I even go near anything related to this trash series? One of my favorite characters got shafted and became pretty much a failure and another one had all of her development thrown out the door as she chose the guy who has never loved her, tried to murder her, and belittle her constantly over the man that has truly loved her since day one.

Nah, I think I'll pass on Naruto becoming a neglectful father and Sakura becoming a housewife for a dude that she had no business forgiving.

"I'm sorry"
"For what?"

For what my ass. Kishi threw out all of her character and turned her back to what she was in part one, some little fangirl with zero self respect. And to further and insult, he turned Naruto into something he had no business being, as the guy was an orphan.

What bothers me more is the fact Sasuke only apologized to Sakura and all of a sudden gained interest in her in particular for no reason. Um hello? You tried to kill Kakashi, too. :facepalm:


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Posted 07 November 2014 - 04:25 AM

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 04:26 AM

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 04:27 AM

Hey guys just thought of yet another loose end. We never got to see naruto and sasukes final powerup. Narutos abilities w/ both halves of kurama and sasukes other rinnegan :/

 
I guess add it to the list. It was pretty long wasn't it?

 

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 04:28 AM


Sasuke could have chosen anyone to be a part of Team Taka, hell he could of even gone back to Konoha and try to persuade Sakura to go w/ him...but he didn't. Out of all the capable medical ninja that are in the shinobi world, he chose Karin. If he ends up w/ anyone, my money is on her. He's only respected Sakura as a friend, and even that is barely. Never even apologized for attempting to kill her 3 times. SMH. That, and Sasuke has said many times that he values people only for their power. Sakura is from a civilian clan, he will probably keep that in mind. Karin is an Uzumaki and Sasuke is an Uchiha. If they ever have children, they will be OP. That and Sasuke has always been impressed by Karin's abilities. (He was impressed by Sakura's punch too, but everyone was so does that really count?). He even called Karin intelligent when he came for her and was amazed by her sensing abilities/ healing. 

Naruto still loves Sakura and Sakura is the only girl that has ever supported him. Hinata supported him, but it was only on the inside, not outwardly like Sakura did. Hinata's support never quite helped Naruto the same way that Sakura's has. Also, Hinata isn't in love w/ Naruto...she only loves the fact that he is inspirational and his nindo of never giving up. She is confusing her admiration for love. People also claim that Hinata loved Naruto from the beginning, but no matter how you put it...it's simply a false statement. Hinata was the only child to realize that Naruto was suffering at the malice of the village and their antagonism...but only got a weird confidence out of it because he was worse off than her. She didn't even try to say a few kind words to cheer him up or smile his way. That's so wrong on so many levels. She trumps everyone in favor of Naruto. EX: Neji died and she went to instantly fangirling Naruto's hand. Kiba vs Naruto at chuunin exams in pt1--->wants Kiba to lose, her own teammate, so the crush she never spoke to even once can win. Her team barely makes it out of the Forest of Death and Kiba/Shino say that they are relieved that the team is okay---> Hinata sees Naruto standing next to Sakura/Sasuke and thinks "Yay, he's okay" w/o thinking of her team. I could keep on going, but I won't. NaruHina is just a one-sided infatuation/obsession on Hinata's part. Naruto is like her rockstar. Development needs to be on both sides. 

Sakura. The person she smiles the most around and even blushes the most around is Naruto. When she first sees Naruto in Shippuden, she thinks he's attractive. She and Naruto have gone on dates, hugged, etc. They have regular conversations, make each other laugh, have seen each others saddest moments, comforted each other, and their personalities mesh well together. People have even commented on how well they work together including Tsunade, Jiraiya, Kakashi, Iruka, etc. Minato, Ino, and Jiraiya, and Konohamaru have referred to Sakura as Naruto's girlfriend. Naruto even said that she was pretty much his girlfriend and she didn't deny it. You can obviously tell that she hasn't been caring about Sasuke during the entire war arc. When Sasuke showed up, she didn't fangirl, she was surprised. This was the very guy who tried to chidori her head off a few weeks ago and told her that he was going to destroy her village and now he was helping her and Naruto in the war and wants to become hokage. Who wouldn't be surprised? Then, she asked Hinata about Naruto's safety first than Sasuke. Later on, she only thinks of Naruto and never Sasuke. Right now, Hinata is out of the picture, and Sakura is healing Naruto/ keeping him alive. She literally has his heart in her hand. And she hasn't thought of why Sasuke has been absent all this time. Karin is rushing to save Sasuke. Sakura no longer loves Sasuke on a romantic level, only as a comrade. Sakura is also the only girl to be connected w/ Naruto's hokage dream and was the first to support it, even all the way back to the chuunin exams in pt 1. This war arc has been trolling NaruHina to the max and shipping NaruSaku/SasuKarin. Sasuke even apologized to Karin. Since when has Sasuke ever respected anyone enough or been humble enough to apologize to them? Oh yeah. Never, only Karin. 

NaruSaku and SasuKarin have development from both sides, whether anyone likes it or not. Hinata's never even been involved w/ the two most major things in Naruto's life: Sasuke/ his hokage dream. She literally knows zilch about them and has never even been remotely associated with them. According to Kishimoto, the manga is ending this year. That means that we have 40 chapters or less to wrap up the story and have Naruto get back Kurama or get another powerup, Sasuke needs to get revived, Sasuke's resolve for hokage needs to be elaborated on, mystery man must be revealed, Madara being defeated, the Edo kages going back, the case of the juubis getting taken care of, the whole hokage situation to get sorted out, Naruto vs Sasuke fight, and whether or not the 5 nations will remain in an alliance or not. 40 chapters is not alot, that will barely be enough to cover all of that, plus more. No other relationships like SasuSaku or NaruHina will be able to get the amount of development NaruSaku and SasuKarin have. Especially NaruSaku, NaruHina can no longer compete, Naruto and Sakura have an entire series together plus the only canon movie RTN, even if Kishimoto devoted the next 40 chapters to just Hinata and Naruto it still won't be enough for them unless he does some bull***  a*spull deus ex machina
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Posted 07 November 2014 - 04:28 AM

What bothers me more is the fact Sasuke only apologized to Sakura and all of a sudden gained interest in her in particular for no reason. Um hello? You tried to kill Kakashi, too. :facepalm:


To be honest, he probably pitied her. That whole kittening forehead scene was atrocious. Kishi must have forgot who the hell was the original proponent of the forehead deal. Kishi made himself look stupid with that one.

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 04:29 AM

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 04:29 AM

Just thought I'd post this again:
First of all Kishi's quote about the ending:
"In accepting the final story, there are mixed feelings, both happy and sorrowful. Nevertheless, Im able to speak clearly, thank you to all the readers. To the end, I truly thank you. Otsukaresama dattebayo!!"
Which pretty much confirms what I thought:
He was forced to end it with NH/SS (whether by his editors or SP) and that's why he went out of his way to make it seem ridiculous. That's why he:
-Constantly showed Sasuke insulting Sakura, saying he couldn't care less if she died, specifically saying he had no reason to like her, saying (even to himself in his own head) that Naruto's his only friend and the only person he has a bond with ect.
-Having Kakashi say "Sakura's not trying or wanting to make you hers! She only wants to save you!".
-Going out of his way to make the last two chapters stupid and ridiculous (Garaa's hair, fat Anko, Sai an Choji's kids, Naruto's kids, Naruto of all people making his son feel lonely and neglected, then telling him to suck it up ect.)
-And even then leaving hints to show it's not what he wanted. Naruto (and most other people) not seeming very happy in life, Sakura looking even more like Kushina (Made her the same height in and gave her the same bangs in "The Last", and even gave her the hair clip in the epilogue), SS's kid lookin more like Karin ect.
It's like it was his way of saying "This isn't what I wanted, so I'll make it extra stupid and pathetic so people will realize it.".
So basically I just adds to my argument that 699/700 aren't canon and the NS was meant as end game right until the end.

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 04:30 AM

Might i remind you guys Kishi forgot the name of Konohamru during an interview. 

 

He never cared. 


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Posted 07 November 2014 - 04:31 AM

The art looks SO DAMN WEIRD. Does anyone agree? Sakura especially, holy...

 

You know what's funny,

 

Karin wanted to see Sasuke's smile one last time.

 

Naruto wanted to kiss Sakura's big charming forehead.

 

but no. let's just forget that ever happened  :wot:  :wot:  :wot:  :wot:  :wot:

Sakura wanted to see Naruto become Hokage... oops, Sasuke returned better forget everything I said.


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Posted 07 November 2014 - 04:31 AM

Just thought I'd post this again:
First of all Kishi's quote about the ending:
"In accepting the final story, there are mixed feelings, both happy and sorrowful. Nevertheless, Im able to speak clearly, thank you to all the readers. To the end, I truly thank you. Otsukaresama dattebayo!!"
Which pretty much confirms what I thought:
He was forced to end it with NH/SS (whether by his editors or SP) and that's why he went out of his way to make it seem ridiculous. That's why he:
-Constantly showed Sasuke insulting Sakura, saying he couldn't care less if she died, specifically saying he had no reason to like her, saying (even to himself in his own head) that Naruto's his only friend and the only person he has a bond with ect.
-Having Kakashi say "Sakura's not trying or wanting to make you hers! She only wants to save you!".
-Going out of his way to make the last two chapters stupid and ridiculous (Garaa's hair, fat Anko, Sai an Choji's kids, Naruto's kids, Naruto of all people making his son feel lonely and neglected, then telling him to suck it up ect.)
-And even then leaving hints to show it's not what he wanted. Naruto (and most other people) not seeming very happy in life, Sakura looking even more like Kushina (Made her the same height in and gave her the same bangs in "The Last", and even gave her the hair clip in the epilogue), SS's kid lookin more like Karin ect.
It's like it was his way of saying "This isn't what I wanted, so I'll make it extra stupid and pathetic so people will realize it.".
So basically I just adds to my argument that 699/700 aren't canon and the NS was meant as end game right until the end.

 

Actually makes a lot of sense, maybe he was hoping that there was fan backlash. If I was forced to end one of my stories in a way I didn't want to, I would do all in my power to try to make it known that the ending was never my intention.

 

In other words, I'd dump it in the river.


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Posted 07 November 2014 - 04:33 AM

To be honest, he probably pitied her. That whole kittening forehead scene was atrocious. Kishi must have forgot who the hell was the original proponent of the forehead deal. Kishi made himself look stupid with that one.

THIS^^

Idk if Sasuke even loves Sakura at all with this asspull (we know he didn't before it). I want to say I think he just took advantage of her love and kindness, but idk what for...


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