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[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Don't worry, Smiter, I'll comment on the Ultras for you. All I can say is it's nice to see such classics back... PLUS TO SEE HOW MUCH MORE BADASS CAPCOM CAN MAKE 'EM!!

Bryon

[Derock]

Badass and a sight to see... though I still say us Cammy players are going to have a hard time pulling her new ultra during combos... and I wonder why Kikosho wasn't combo-ed since that's III version.

And Cody's 2nd Ultra is still awesome!

[Smiter]

More videos.

Dee Jay (1st Ultra) vs Rose (2nd Ultra)



Rose's new Ultra looks like it's a limited time boost and you can attack normally during it.


20 Characters' 2nd Ultras (Quality varies as it's complied from several videos)



If you look at the Command List menu (there's a good view early in the Rose video), you can see there are still four ???s. Surely that'll be Ibuki, Dudley, Makoto and Hakan? Can't wait to see them revealed.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Man, many of the new Ultras seem to be either explosively new or badass upgrades of older Super Combos from past games. And if we do get Ibuki, Dudley, Makoto, and Hakan, I look forward to seeing them in action. If not, whoever Capcom has lined up... BRING 'EM ON!!

Bryon

[Smiter]

Er... more videos. XD;

Looks like Juri's 1st Ultra is a Custom Combo.



Her 2nd Ultra is of course that one where she kicks her opponent into the air and impales him/her onto her outstretched leg.


Seth's 2nd Ultra





Gouken's 2nd Ultra (This one hits)



Looking at all the Ultras, it's interesting how Capcom seems to be experimenting a little with a couple of those - namely Rose's new Ultra (Satellite boost) and Juri's 1st Ultra (Custom Combo). I wonder if we'll see a few more unique Ultras revealed with the new characters?

A lot of the Ultras have been reduced to small clips on Youtube so maybe later on I could post an organised video list, sorted by character? Text links only, I'm not mad enough to put a whole load of videos in a single post. Then we could see which Ultras are yet to be revealed.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Well! It'd seem continuity-wise that Ryu picked up a lot of new moves from facing Gouken again in SF4, since Gouken knows the Shin Shoryuken and the Denjin Hadouken, two of Ryu's Super Arts in SF4. Plus it's nice to see older Super Combos used as Ultra Combos in SSF4. Chun-Li with the Kikosho, Sagat with the Tiger Cannon, Blanka with Shout of Earth, Guy with the Bushin Muso Renge and so much more. All in all, I love how much detail and how much of a OW factor that Capcom has put with the more cinematic Ultra Combos 2 in SSF4, especially since they can just be so boss!

Bryon

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Sorry to double post, guys, but I got something to share in regards of SSF4! Trust me, you're gonna LOVE it!



Scan from Famitsu of new SSF4 3rd costumes thanks to someone at http://www.shishi-rendan.com! I hope you like 'em. So far, I think Rose's is one of my favorites, especially thanks to how it shows off her beauty a lot!

Bryon

[Rix the Very Affectionate Lego!]

I am going to Evo this year, hopefully they will have SSF4 as the main game!

[Derock]

Here are the list of major changes and new ultras for the recurring characters:

Changes for returning characters --Click here to view--

General
+ Many players claimed Focus Attacks are sped up.
+ The game feels faster according to many people, but this isn't a for sure thing.

Abel
+ New Ultra: Breathless. Seems to be a great move so far, super fast start up time, grabs low and has Super Armor.
+ Change of Direction is now a lot safer if blocked.
+ Damage seems to be increased on certain moves. Crouching Hard Punch, Cancel into Roll, Falling Sky takes off more life.

Akuma/Gouki
- Far Standing Hard Kick (Double Kicks) have more start up time.
- Standing Light Punch can no longer Link into far Standing Hard Kick.
- Fireball, FADC, far Standing Hard Kick only works on large hitbox characters now.
+ New Ultra: Demon Armageddon. Up, Up + 3x Kick command. Doesn't seem to have many ways to combo into it, can't be used as anti-air. Also will miss crouching opponents.

Balrog/M. Bison (Boxer)
- Headbutt Cancel into Ultra Running Punch has revamped juggling properties. Apparently the final hit of the Ultra now whiffs.
+ New Ultra: Dirty Bull. 360 + 3x Punch command grab. 35% damage at level 1, several people claim it does A LOT of stun. Recovery time if this misses is fast, but seems to have a lot of start up time, for a grab.

Blanka
+ Blanka's walk speed is faster now.
+ Crouching Hard Punch is a better now. Faster, sticks out farther and seems to be a much better poke and anti air.
+ New Ultra: Shout of Earth. This move has two versions, when done with 3x Punches it's an anti air, 3x Kicks is an anti ground move. It's performed like Guile's original Ultra move in Street Fighter 4, but you can hold the button and release it when you want the attack to come out. Seth Killian told a player the Kick version can punish fireballs at full-screen's distance, although you'll still take damage from the fireball, they'll take full damage from your Ultra.
* Horizontal ball flies closer to the ground, apparently someone sweeped Blanka out of it.
- Chip (block) damage on old Ultra, Lightning Cannonball, has been reduced.

Cammy
+ New Ultra: C.Q.C (Cammy Quick Combination). Counter Ultra.

Chun-Li
+ New Ultra: Kikosho. Double quarter-circle forward + 3x Punch. This can be comboed into after landing the following: EX-Lightning Legs, Up Kicks and then dashing, air target juggle, after an EX-Spinning Bird Kick in the corner.
+ Crouching Medium Kick is much better, wasn't told how exactly.
+ EX-Lightning Legs can score additional hits depending on how many kicks were pressed.
* Chun-Li's Senretsukyaku seem to be tweaked. They seemed to connect much more consistently from mid-screen, although some players reported problems landing them fully. Your mileage may vary.
* EX-Spinning Bird kick pushes your opponent further away after connecting.
- Her Standing Hard Kick is much slower.
- EX-Spinning Bird Kick has a smaller hitbox.
- Crouching Light Kick 2x, Cancel into EX-Lightning Legs juggle with Ultra Lightning Legs seems to do less damage now. Less than 40% from level 1.

C. Viper
+ New Ultra: Burning Dance, good damage on this.

Dan
+ New Ultra: Haoh Gadoken. Double fireball + 3x Kicks. Dan's winds up and unleashes a gigantic fireball into his opponent, which is safe on block.

Dhalsim
+ New Ultra: Yoga Shangri-La. Can only be used in the air, makes it a big threat when coupled with his air teleport.

El Fuerte
+ New Ultra: El Fuerte Ultra Spark.

E. Honda
+ New Ultra: Orochi Breaker. Likely a 720 motion + 3x Punch, command grab. He does an Oicho Throw ending with a huge butt splash, damage on this is good, but seems to be a bit easy to counter right now.

Fei Long
+ New Ultra: Gekirinken (One Inch Punch). This is a counter hit attack. Command is a double quarter-circle forward + 3x Kick.
+ EX-Chicken Wing (Flying Kick) may have more invincibility.

Ken
+ New Ultra: Guren Senpukyaku. A series of kicks from Ken, this can absorb one fireball and still travel through to hit your opponent.
+ His dashes look to be faster.
+ Ken's sweep (Crouching Hard Kick) might be faster.

Gen
+ Jumping while in Mantis (Punch) Stance goes up much higher now.
+ EX-Wall Dive (Oga) is no longer safe on wake up.
+ Wall Dive (Oga) is a lot faster now, a little less priority and a little slower than Adon's wall dive.
+ Gen has Chain combos now. Not as easy as Guy's though. Crouching Light Punch, Chain into Crouching Medium Punch, Cancel into Rapid Slap works.
+ Rapid Slap (Hands) seem to require less inputs to activate now. Might be 3 or 4 instead of 5 button presses.
+ Gen has four Ultra moves now, with the two new attacks being the kittenenketsu and Teiga.
- Crane Stance (Kick) Crouching Medium Punch has seems slower.
* Air Kicks (Gekiro) hit your opponent up at different angles now.

Gouken
+ New Ultra: Denjin Hadoken. This can be charged up so it's unblockable like Ryu's Denjin Hadoken in Third Strike. If you don't charge it up, it's blockable though.

Guile
+ Hard Flash Kick seems has more forward range now.
+ Seems to be a bit more powerful, i.e. some moves take off more damage now.
+ New Ultra: Sonic Hurricane. Has a bit of start up time, but seems like it will be a pretty good Ultra.

M. Bison/Vega (Dictator)
+ New Ultra: Psycho Punisher. Some people compared this to Abel's Ultra in the first Street Fighter 4 game.

Rufus
+ New Ultra: Big Bang Typhoon. Primarily anti air/anti crossover move. Not as easy to combo into as his original Ultra though.
- EX-Snake Strike's damage has been reduced.

Rose
+ Hard Punch Soul Reflect, FADC, Soul Throw now combos.
+ New Ultra: Soul Satellite. Makes two orbs spin around her body which you can use to hit your opponent.

Ryu
* Hard Punch Shoryuken hits twice at close range, but only the second hit knocks down.
+ New Ultra: Metsu Shoryuken. Very, very good damage on this one — if you fully connect with it. If you miss the first couple of attacks, the damage is reduced significantly.

Sakura
+ Her fireball doesn't fade out now.
+ Jumping Medium Kick now crosses up.
+ New Ultra: Shinku Hadoken. This can be a horizontal fireball, or aimed upwards as anti air.

Sagat
- Stamina was decreased. It appears to be dropped from 1100 to 1000.
- Tiger Uppercut damage was reduced.
+ Has new evasion move. It takes an EX bar to execute, but supposedly lets Sagat dodge some attacks and it powers up his Tiger Uppercut.
+ New Ultra: Tiger Cannon. A multihitting Tiger Shot.
+ Standing Light Kick now hits twice.

Seth
+ New Ultra: Tandem Typhoon.

Vega/Balrog (Claw)
+ Vega's Down-Torwards + Medium Kick is now an overhead attack.
+ New Ultra: Splendid Claw. He does a slide attack and then does a series of moves ending with a vicious looking upwards slash. You should be able to combo into this.
+ Startup time on his Rolling Crystal Flash has been decreased.

Zangief
+ New Ultra: Siberian Blizzard. 720 motion + 3x Kicks in the air, a command grab. This will grab an airborne opponent and reportedly a player on the ground, if you're close enough. Apparently you can grab the other player with this after trading with Gief's Lariat or after an Focus Attack Dash Cancel, crazy.

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[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

And it seems as if Capcom is making things more balanced really in the long run with the new changes featured in SSF4. Now we just gotta get news of the rest of the new characters and what they can do...

Bryon

[Smiter]

Is that really all of the changes for Cammy? Just her new Ultra? I'll be disappointed if Capcom doesn't give her any buffs *cough*anti-turtling-guiles*cough*

Still, I'll give all the characters a try when the game comes out, see if I find anyone I like. There's supposed to be a big annoucement tomorrow (26th), so that could be the final batch of characters or a release date. I think it's the release date.

*has holiday form ready to book a week off for SSF4* XD

[Smiter]

The release date for SSF4 was announced today. It will be out in Japan on the 28th of April, North America will get it on the 27th, and Europe will get it on the 30th.

New trailer (no new character reveals):

Japanese Boxart --Click here to view--

US Boxart --Click here to view--

There will also be a collectors edition, including a soundtrack, movie collection (SF4/SSF4 trailers), and a character art book. There will also be an anime by GONZO starring Juri (Xbox 360 only in Japan, it'll be out in US and Europe but unknown if it's 360 exclusive again).

Japanese trailer:


English trailer:




People who buy SSF4 quickly will be able to download the first batch of costumes for free. After July 1st, you'll have to pay for it. They're for Dhalsim, Guile, Blanka, Gen and Fei Long:



Well, it's going to be a longer wait than I thought, but it's coming! There will also be a national tournament in Japan on April 4th, featuring the FULL roster of characters - so we'll see the last few characters by that date at the latest!

The anime looks interesting, but I think I'll probably go for the ordinary edition this time around. I bought the collector's edition for the original SF4 and was disappointed with the quality.

[Derock]

HOLY S***!!!

That look badass!!!

All about Juri and Chun-Li, Cammy, and Guile are the main characters and what's this...

Juli, Juni and the Dolls returns?!!!

I wanna this NAO!!!

[Smiter]

Yeah, it was cool to see the Dolls return. Gonzo also did the anime cutscenes for the game - introductions, Rival intros, and endings. It should be a good-looking game!

After a little thinking, I might consider the collector's edition as it looks much better than the SF4 one. It depends on what the UK version gets, how much it'll cost, and how my cash is looking. The only game I want to get before SSF4 is FFXIII, so I should have spare cash by then!

I plan to get back into SF4 this weekend, probably play it Saturday afternoon/evening. Anyone else interested in blowing the cobwebs off their fighting skills?

[Rix the Very Affectionate Lego!]

Yo im so pumped for new dhalsim stuff, im going to a SF4 Tourny on friday, maybe ill upload the video

[Derock]

I plan to get back into SF4 this weekend, probably play it Saturday afternoon/evening. Anyone else interested in blowing the cobwebs off their fighting skills?

Just tell me the time and I'll be there.

[Smiter]

Yo im so pumped for new dhalsim stuff, im going to a SF4 Tourny on friday, maybe ill upload the video

Good luck in the tournament.

Just tell me the time and I'll be there.

OK! How does 7pm GMT sound? It's been so long since I last played.

EDIT: Oops, forgot to include this:

European boxart for SSF4 --Click here to view--

Not bad looking at all. It's a pity they took Cammy out, though! Was the designer a Cammy hater? Played too many losing matches against Cammy?

Oh, and Seth Killian says Capcom are currently considering a system where persistent disconnecters are banned from playing regular players and can only play against each other. When their profile resets after a period of time, they can go back to playing against regular players, but can be punished again if they disconnect again. That system is in use on Tatsunoko vs Capcom.

[Derock]

OK! How does 7pm GMT sound? It's been so long since I last played.

EDIT: Oops, forgot to include this:

European boxart for SSF4 --Click here to view--

Not bad looking at all. It's a pity they took Cammy out, though! Was the designer a Cammy hater? Played too many losing matches against Cammy?

And I believe that's 1PM EST for me...

And why they delete Cammy in the European box art?! I don't like the US because they're using the character model art. The Japanese should be the cover for ALL international releases because look at it... it's so damn badass!! XDD

[Smiter]

OK, see you then!

I know... I'm guessing they removed her because the higher logo would have obscured her. The Japanese one is indeed the best of them all.

I wonder if a JP gamer would be kind enough to scan the cover in so we can all print it off and replace our covers with it?

[Rix the Very Affectionate Lego!]

I got ps3, if you guys want to play sometime