
...has been for no one but Naruto. And that smile has never been used for comedic purposes, not in part 1 (After the Battle with Gaara) and neither on part Two. That smile tells me that Sakura did love Naruto, and no one will change my pov on that.
Posted by Shadow Wolf
on 24 September 2017 - 11:54 PM
Posted by Shadow Wolf
on 19 September 2017 - 04:47 AM
Bold I think Analyzer is well aware she will keep on debating with us and there will never be an end to it because we will always disagree with her. The way I have come to see it she's only here to try and change our minds of the manga ending. She wants us to stop liking NS and like NH/SS instead. That's it she wants us to jump ships and she knows that's impossible but she's going to try anyway. I'm still wondering why she chose to come to this forum there are DOZENS of Naruto forums on the internet and she has to come to a NS one. Truth is she's wasting our time she will never convince me or anyone to accept the BS ending and the kitten pairings Kishimoto went with. I love NS and I will always love it, it's a million times better than NS/SS she will obviously disagree and guess what? I DON'T CARE. The only way she will leave this forum is if everyone and I do mean everyone no longer reply to her posts. As long as there are people replying to her, she will continue. If all of us ignore her then she might grow tire and hopefully leave.
Posted by Shadow Wolf
on 19 September 2017 - 01:43 AM
Hehe, thanks for the compliments. Now I feel kinda embarrassed.Shadow wolf wrote a long reply to you. He did elaborate. You just want to go on and on and on.
In fact the vast majority on this forum that had a debate with you started with kindly ~elaborating. Then they stopped. Many have blocked you. Could you, perhaps, look in the mirror and ask yourself if there is something you should change about your posts. Or simply stop writing to people who ask you to stop. Which has now become, the vast majority. Shadow wolf is of the sweet and even-tempered here so the fact that you managed to chase him off should alarm you.
Going back and reading it, they were comparing a love for food with being helpful and altruistic. I do not think these two things link in the way the author suggests as I interpreted them...
It just has come to the point where I have agreed to disagree Analyzer. Many of us fans here do not support the ending, so when we come across someone like you, I come to the conclusion that we just have different views on the manga, and as such we will never end debating if we keep going. You believe you're right while I believe I'm right, so I'll just leave the conversation there. And to answer your final question: I was just pointing a simple difference between selfish love (which was what Naruto said he expressed when he said that loving someone was I like loving ramen during the Last movie), and selfless love (which he expressed to many people in the universe, but especially towards Sakura when he promised to bring Sasuke back. And even though his promise was changed towards saving Sasuke because he wanted to, he still wanted to keep that promise for her too, which is an act of selfless love), which is a blatant contradiction regarding Naruto's character and personality between the manga and the movie. But since you do not agree with this point, for you believe differently, you concluded that NaruHina makes more sense than NaruSaku and you believe that no one in the Narutoverse is out of character at the end of the Naruto manga and in the present Boruto manga, then basically 95% of our debate is concluded there and thus, there is no need for me to talk further about any topic related to Naruto with you. Is not an act of arrogance but simply a conclusion that I do not need to debate with you anymore.as I interpreted them...
Posted by Shadow Wolf
on 18 September 2017 - 08:14 PM
I'm not sure where you are getting with your chapter 183 and love for food parallel, however.
When it comes to Pokemon I feel the closest we've seen when it comes to him maturing is through Diamond and Pearl and particularly the XY/XYZ series. That's about it , and they did kinda confirm a love interest for Ash in that series, but that's really up for debate amongst the pokemon community whether or not its canon that is . I'd say it's semi-canon like so in the middle is where I'd say.
I completely on that same notion when it comes to Naruto like it didn't bother me as much, but there was so much he learned from The Pain Arc, and I feel it didn't really apply in the last half of Shippuden and it's unfortunate cause you'd think Naruto would experience the same way Gon did in Hunter x Hunter, Yusuke from Yu-YU Hakushou, Haru after the experience he had with his father during Rave Master, Renton after finding out about Eureka's secret, Yato during the Underworld Arc in Noragami, the list just goes on and on, but you get the point.
Posted by Shadow Wolf
on 17 September 2017 - 10:26 PM
As an aside, nothing wrong with being a housewife, though she is also a Medic in the end.
1: The Parallels and comments pointed out in this don't really point to NS. The Girlfriend comment in Minato is played out as a joke, and Naruto later comments that he can't tease Sakura anymore as he sees her growing strength. I'm not sure why Kushina's comment is given so much emphasis either, when later Naruto talks to Minato and says he hasn't really found someone like that yet.
2: To be honest, these things don't really work with NS either.
2a: How is this disregarded? (As an aside, this quote is actually more often attributed towards NH).
2b: Nowhere in the manga does Naruto say he loves Sakura.
2c: This one more plays into Sasuke's antagonism versus Naruto, his own power desires that pull him away, and SS over anything else really. Particularly that moments before that Naruto leaves them alone.
2d: Hinata never wanted to lead the clan. This was never her goal. I'm not sure why she is romanticized by some NH fans on this goal or complained by other fans on not being this leader.
3: I would argue that NH has the most development, despite not being a fan. Interactions != Development, and if we are being honest, NS development very clearly is set to be platonic and remain that way within the manga. Peace is being pursued in the end, and frankly, the Last does not contradict in the manga.
4: I utilize source because I am trying to show that what is being spouted has no factual basis, yet is often being thrown around as such. I get this is a NS Sanctuary to some, and criticism against the narrative that NS was meant to be is not always desired, but I tend to cut in when I see these statements.
Posted by Shadow Wolf
on 17 September 2017 - 08:00 AM
To go from someone who surpassed a Sannin into a housewife who faints at a destroyed house, marries a guy who tried to kill her twice and apparently has to make puppy eyes in order to try and get a reaction from her husband? If that ain't tragic, then what is?
If you mean tragic as in the character, definitely not. She more or less gets her happy ending that was being developed, though there is real angst in the journey.
If you mean in a writing perspective, this didn't really happen. No outside force just took away her happiness, she more or less got the reunited team 7 she wanted at the end.
Posted by Shadow Wolf
on 15 July 2017 - 08:20 AM
*Looks up definition of Moe*Let's stop with the moe term. Hinata doesn't fit it...
Posted by Shadow Wolf
on 24 July 2016 - 06:27 AM
I must admit that you are quite the steadfast member. And to be honest, that's not such a bad thing. So I will write this post not to crush your dreams but to explain why must of us will not feel satisfied with NS becoming canon in this new series.I'm just a guy who doesn't see a reason to give up on NaruSaku and SasuHina given the amount of sense it makes for these pairing to happen and now with the new evidence that gives footing to speculate that they now have a chance to happen in the new (Boruto Manga) which will keep me hopeful from this moment on
Posted by Shadow Wolf
on 29 August 2015 - 12:20 PM
You know... even though I haven't read the new manga, I did see bits of panels here and there. My conclusion is that Sakura shows all the symptoms of depression and resignation. I don't know... both Naruto and Sakura feel like the reflection of Kishi while Sasuke and Hinata are like Studio Pierrot, but I may be going a bit off-topic.
16 years... even though people may be a bit more mature than earlier, I think the decisions they take are also a bit "heart-followed" and not "mind-followed". They say love is not logical; but I submit that it is. After all, if love was not logical, then Sakura and Naruto are the prime examples of a life without logic in love. No matter what happens or how someone treats you, you should still love them because love is not logical.
Anyway, with that said, to me every character deserves a bit of hate for specific reasons: Naruto for being such and idiot, Sakura for being pretty much a beggar of love, and Sasuke for being and bastard and getting away with it countless times (I could say the same about Hinata, but meh.. satellite).
So why is Sakura receiving so much hate? Because she deserves it? Because of what she did or didn't do? How about because she reminds people of an actual problem with society today? All of these are some of the reasons. But to me, the reason why Sakura is hated is because, like some other members have said: she has put up with this ever since Shippuden started and she has done absolutely nothing about it. Hence: resignation and depression. These are the reasons as to why I believe she behaves like this.
Posted by Shadow Wolf
on 17 February 2015 - 09:00 PM
Posted by Shadow Wolf
on 18 January 2015 - 12:32 PM
Posted by Shadow Wolf
on 26 November 2014 - 01:57 AM
You know there was a recent announcement saying that people who would say things like «get over it» and «move on» could get banned, right?I will admit to you all that I'm a narusaku fan and I was pretty dedicated to it too like that rest of you. I was also very disappointed when the last chapters came out because narusaku didn't happen, but guess what people. I GOT OVER IT AND MOVED ON!!! Can't any of you do this too? Not so sound like an a$$ but there are more important things in life than constantly complaining on how a manga ended.
Forgive me if I sound like a traitor but overall I was fairly satisfied with the ending and, you'll all probably call me insane, delusional, an idiot, and a dork with no taste, but if the movie turns out almost exactly like the "possible" plot summary that was shared earlier in this forum, I will be completely satisfied with the movie and the series' ending.
But more than anything people, move on. It's just a fictional story. Yes it's one that has been a big part of our lives but it was a fictional story none the less. I'm sorry that it didn't end how we wanted it (especially if the spoilers are true) but it's just a bitter pill that we've got to swallow. I'm sorry if I sound like a jerk that's telling you all something that's been told a thousand times but it's just how it is.
Goodbye everyone. It's been fun. See you in the next big manga forums.
Posted by Shadow Wolf
on 05 November 2014 - 05:59 PM
Posted by Shadow Wolf
on 05 November 2014 - 02:10 PM
http://kissmanga.com/Manga/suzuka
Thanks, I'm out.
Posted by Shadow Wolf
on 05 November 2014 - 01:27 PM