Lets say Naruto had won his battle with Sasuke during the valley of the end fight and successfully managed to bring him back. Naturally, this would have followed with Naruto going to train with Jiraiya for 2.5 years (as there'd still be worry over Orochimaru coming back to the village to capture Sasuke). Sasuke would probably be closely monitored, hence making it unlikely for him to escape the village. Now, with Naruto gone for 2.5 years, that leaves Sasuke and Sakura in the village. Would this harm or hurt NaruSaku?

I think with what would happen, it could be very different. I know I'm exploring that possibility with a story I'm reworking, Kenny, so trust me when I say that you raise a good question.

Bryon

Well, let's look at some of the differences.

Sasuke wouldn't need to be "rescued", so Naruto wouldn't spend all his time concentrating on him instead of his own training.

Naruto would have fulfilled his Promise of a Lifetime to Sakura, thereby strengthening their relationship.

Orochimaru had already changed bodies by the time Naruto and Sasuke fought, so him seeking out Sasuke at that time wouldn't be very important, as he'd most likely be trying to regain his footing in his new body, which probably takes quite a while. What with the whole "Eating someone's soul" thing.

Sasuke would most likely have been detained by ANBU, or even jailed. Whether he suceeded or not, he still tried to defect to an enemy nation, and got several people hurt in the process. The truth about him leaving would have come out as well, and there's a large chance the civilians of Konoha would have been calling for his execution, with the rapid mood swings they seem to have.

Naruto most likely wouldn't go on any trip with Jiraiya, as he wouldn't want to leave things the way they are in Konoha at the time. Jiraiya was worried about Akatsuki, but Naruto only went with him because of Sasuke's defection. And it's not like he got anything out of those two years of training, anyway.

I think Naruto would still train with Jiraiya, but that would at later date and possibly to fight the Akatsuki later down the line. Remember, there are other fish to get besides Sasuke.

Personality wise I don't think Sasuke is looking for love no matter if he came back or not. He would still be driven to revenge against Itachi, but just playing for a different team. His personality wouldn't change much,

Sakura would probably still swoon over Sasuke...as well as every other girl in the series...but it wouldn't last. Sasuke would just keep ignoring it time and time again and things would probably end up as they are now. Ino stills seems to have the hots for Sasuke as evident when she met Sai and thought he looked just like him.

The pairing wars would probably change as well with the two major battles between SasuSaku and SasuIno. Us NaruSaku fans would be around, but we would be in the backdrop instead of a major contender right now.

Then we wouldn't have a plot and the story would be kinda boring because Sakura would probably still care about her looks and Naruto wouldn't have anything exept his dream to become Hokage to push him this hard and become this strong. It would most likely suck thank god the sauce left, I never cared for him; him leaving was the best thing for Naruto and Sakura personality wise and also them getting closer. Narusaku ;P so yeah. Sauce stays Naruto not as pushed to become strong, Sakura a fangirl and yeah... That Akatsuki would probably have killed Naruto ;( and we don't want that now do we?

^^ wrong, then Naruto would of been able to train for the whole 6 years with Jiraya, meaning he would be even more awsome and probally more perverted.
JI-RAI-YAHHHH

No... Naruto can only learn so much from Jiraiya, he wouldn't have been gone fore six years silly

but i always thought that was the time he was suposed to spend but only didn't cuz of sasgay? eh im confused ain't watched normal naruto ( non-shippuiden ) inna minute

If Naruto stopped Sasuke it wouldn't have made much difference, if anything could have ended much worst, Only way Sasuke would stay in the village is if he was kept under lock and key, otherwise he'd just leave or Orichimaru later on when Naruto left for training, Sasuke would be much more bitter and vengeful against Konoha than he is now, as they are not only stopping him from being the wanabe Avenger he claims on being,

The problem would be Konoha would have to keep him as an active ninja because of the threat of Itachi spilling their secret, so he'd still be kept a active ninja even if closely monitored and leave to join Orichimaru or fight his brother, which inturn would lead to him meeting Madara and he'd be even more bitter against Konoha and even more dangerous that he is now.

So on the whole Sasuke staying or leaving probably wouldn't make much of a difference except make him more deadly, also Sakura might not ask Tsunade to train her if Sasuke was in the village and might even be manipulated by Sasuke to join him on his vengence trip which would end up getting her killed and Naruto might not as strong because he probably wouldn't be as determined to train like he did with hiw Wind element and perfect the RasenShuriken.

So all in all probably a good thing he left the village it made everyone around him much stronger.

Here is one way it could have played out:

Naruto still trains for 2.5 years with Jiraiya, to prepare for when Akatsuki comes for Naruto.

Sakura would be more grateful to Naruto, but wouldn't have made the promise in the hospital (to work with Naruto). Would she still make the decision to apprentice with Tsunade?

Sasuke would likely be recruited by Danzo for ANBU, so that Danzo could manipulate Sasuke more directly. Sasuke would be even more bitter that Naruto was better than him, so would turn to *anyone* who could make him stronger. Sakura would not see Sasuke very much, between her duties to the Kage, and Sasuke skulking around the sewers with Danzo. (Danzo would have to be careful not to be detected by Itachi, of course.)

It would have been a different story altogether. Who knows Naruto would probably get more out of training with Jiraiya. Sakura would be a powerful ninja but woundn't take it too serious until Sasuke kick her to curve badly! Sasuke well... it can go either way. Remember he was fine until Itachi return.

If Naruto really did succeeded in rescuing Sasuke, I still think it wouldn't have matter. In fact, I think that his will to leave Konoha would have been even greater. Plus, he would have SERIOUSLY hate Naruto (I mean, look at the first time they fought. Sasuke, seeing the result of Naruto's progress, was piss)

As for Naruto, he would still have Akatsuki on him. He would have train anyway

Anyway, he would have leave sooner or later.

PS: Devil Keyz and Shippuden girl, stop bashing Sasuke, I don't like him but we shouldn't do that.

Oh no no! I didn't mean too (mostly) that was actually kinda a compliment because I was technically saying that because he left Naruto and Sakura have got'in closer and are able to be themselves (personality wise)

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Good-night forum it's 12:37am geez I can't think so sorry if I offended anyone, I'm just expressive when posting comments and they turn out screwy lol.. Bye!

Me bash? thats obserd

The bashing was because you called Sasuke by his popular but also a inappropriate name (I'm not gonna reppeat it because I would bash him and since I've warned you, that would be inappropriate for me)

and it OK guys, I too, get a little carried away sometimes when it come to Sasuke (yes, I'm guilty too...shameful of me).

oh sorry about that, i guess its popular cuz it pops up in alota fanfics lol

I dunno, I think Sasuke would have still turned toward the dark side. Even if Naruto had dragged him back from that fight don't forget that Sasuke went through that transition in the barrel where he "died once." After that happened with the sound ninjas, his change was more than just a choice, it was a physical and mental alteration. It's just as he told Naruto during their fight, "You're too late!"

Yes, that is so true

If I may ask for educational purpose.....why "That Sauce?" I don't quite get it. I mean I get it, but then I don't get it. Also, how is it bashing? Sort of makes for a cool nickname like when they say Naruto is the "Knuckled-headed ninja."

Sorry to go off topic.

I would think it would be obvious why it's considered bashing. Using the term 'gay' negatively to describe/refer to someone is offensive. People have become so complacent about the term by always going "oh that so gay" that they don't even realize how negative/rude they're being.

It's pretty much saying that being ''gay'' is an insult when you call somebody gay, like it's a bad thing to be gay. I used to do it, too, but I made sure I stopped before anyone got offended.

Same with ''retarded.'' People uee it so liberally so express how stupid something is, and again, I used to do it, too. But you never know who might be related to or know a mentally retarded person.

Plus, bashing's not even allowed at this forum so you should probably refrain altogether.

Well, I never said Sauce-"gay" I said "The Sauce" its just a little nickname people call him, i'm sorry if I offended anyone, it really wasn't intentional. Just like Naruto is called "Knuckle-headed Ninja" the only other way to describe Sasuke is to say "Revenge obsessed guy" or something, based on personality, but that would be considered bashing, true or not. "The Sauce" is probably the nicest way of saying Sasuke. Again, excuse for those who were offended.

True, and the fact that the two term put together rhyme with his name (again, I'm not going to say those two term, you all know them)

I think that people start to call him that because he didn't seem to be interests with the female population (and let not forget the memorial kiss between Naruto and Sasuke).

But, in the end, those term main purpose was to ridicule his sexual orientation. Like Sakura blossom said, people use those termes whitout realizing how cruel they're being.



That because, the little nickname is a reference to Sasuke's man attribute (I think you know what I'm talking about). Even if you didn't say gay after that, the fact is that nickname can be interpreted as an offense to Sasuke's anatomy.

Naruto being referred as the Knuckle-headed Ninja is, in my point if view, not the same. For starter, it a reference to the manga itself and it true that Naruto can is sometime a Knuckle-headed.

*Sighs*

Notice I was not and did not refer to you at any point in my post:



I quoted Devil Keyz as the one who had used the term, and I was answering James S Cassidy's question. At no point did I mention your name.

And anyways all of this is way off-topic. Points made are that there should be no bashing, explanation of what constitutes as bashing on this forum has been made, now everyone get back on topic please.

Okay, okay back on topic! ^^

Uh, like I said before, Sakura would possibly still be a fangirl but Sasuke being forced back would be against his own will to kill Itachi and (As people have stated) Sasuke would probably hate Naruto even more and wouldn't hesitate to kill him.

That's how i'll start it off I guess.

While I would wish otherwise, I think that you're right about Sakura. If Naruto had succeed in rescuing Sasuke, she would have be all clingy again (in fact, I think that it would have made it worst since she would have fear of Sasuke leaving her again).

As for Sasuke, I think everyone could agreed to the fact that, sooner or later, he would have flee once again to join Orochimaru. In the Vote, Sasuke made it clear that he would break all bonds (he was specifically referring to Naruto at that time but it still mean the same because Naruto was his strongest bond)

Also, like you said, the fact that Naruto could beat him would make him hate Naruto to the point that, on the next encounter, he wouldn't have hesitate to kill him. In their first fight, Sasuke was satisfied when he saw the result of both attack in the water tank, seeing that his attack did more damage then Naruto's. However, as soon as he saw backside of Naruto tank, he was clearly enrage to see how much Naruto became strong in a short amount of time. It wasn't the first time that we acknowledge his 'aggressive' behavior toward Naruto and the simple fact that he have the curse mark on him have only intensify his anger. Once again, if he would have see that Naruto can beat him again, his rage would have been worse toward Naruto.

^^ Exactly, Sakura would probably edge Naruto on more too if Sasuke was brought back and she clinged to him, then he left again. I think they would BOTH be obsessed fangirls (lol)

ARHHHHHH Naruto on fangirl mode on Sasuke, you point out my worst nightmare

Yeah, I kinda saw Sakura more as a fangirl in part 1 but then Part 2 Sakura grew up and saw Sasuke as his present self Naruto still saw him as part 1 brotherly cool guy :S Kind ironic huh?

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Like the signature, I hope all hell don't break loose either, geez the pairing war battlefield just got real intense too huh?

I think that Naruto doesn't see him like in part 1 anymore. He, however, can't see the fact that Sasuke have cross the point of no return (or if he still can be saved, it will take a lot of Naruto-ish miracle to do it).
I think that Naruto can't picture himself losing Sasuke because so far, he have save so many people and, no mater what, he had always succeed (the most obvious being Gaara).

As for my signature...I just want to humor a little all this 'pairing war' because, you have to admit that it kinda hilarious and it have been a long time since we didn't hear all that madness (the chapter 437, it was NarHina, now, it will be SasuSaku)

But seriously, I don't fear for NaruSaku....why should I?

Mmm... Personally I don't think it would have greatly changed the story. Perhaps it would have merely delayed things.

I'll explain myself:

Sakura had been reevaluating her perceptions about Naruto and Sasuke for a long time. The bench scene started that change and the Forest of Death sped it up (during that ordeal she realized Sasuke wasn't so wonderful and perfect -she called him a coward to his face- and had a dark side she had never taken notice from... and frightened her). After the Forest of the Death she never again squeals: "Sasuke-kun, you are so wonderful!". And during the goodbye scene she tells he never talks to her and she thinks he hates her. And after he left anyway, she was very shaken.

And then we got The Promise of a Lifetime scene, where her last preconceptions about Naruto also shattered forever.

Keep in mind the change we are talking about is posterior to those scenes.

Later, when she and Ino went in the hospital, she told she was visiting Naruto first (matter-of-factly assuming he had fulfilled his promise).

Thus, I don't think Sakura would woo Sasuke how she used to (certainly she would not behave like a fangirl. She had ditched that act long ago). And she would never see Naruto and Sasuke with the same eyes. Maybe she would be more protective of Sasuke since she would be frightened of him leaving again, but I doubt she kept hopes or dellusions of being his girlfriend. And she would feel closer to Naruto.

Maybe she would ask Tsunade becoming her disciple not matter what. Rememberer: she told she would go with Naruto the next time... but she hated being a burden and being left behind. So she could have wanted being trained by Tsunade (who she had been alreay impressed over) even if there was no Sasuke to rescue. Moreover, she could think if she proved Sasuke his teammates weren't a burden, he could stay... or she could help if he left again.

Naruto wouldn't be depressed about Sasuke but he might become more protective -and watchful- of him. Jiraiya would offer him training anywaydue to the Akatsuki threat -and they would have not deadline for completing it-, but perhaps Naruto would want staying in Konoha in order to watch Sasuke.

Sasuke would try leaving again. He had left his hometown willingly because he was jealousy of Naruto and he thought he was becoming weak cause his friends. Getting dragged back would not change that. In fact, he could become more resentful of his friends and his village. And it is likely he would get punished by his defection and the other Rookie Nine would be resentful of him, so it would increase his fury, frustration and resentment.

And if Naruto and Sakura were trained by Jiraiya and Tsunade how I have reckoned, he would be EVEN MORE resentful. He would wonder why those weaklings could be trained by legendary shinobi but he was denied such training, he would get jealousy of them because they were becoming stronger (which in his mind means he is becoming weaker), and he would think he was right: that village and those partners were weakening him.

So he would want leaving again. I am sure of it.

I am not completely sure how it would have changed the story afterwards, though.



I agree. It would amusing if it was bot so tiresome. Everyone seem so sure usually, but then some drama ahppens, and everyone panic.

But yes, it is chapter 437 again... Or chapter 408 again... Or chapter 355 again... Or chapter 306 again... Or chapter 283 again... Or...

Developments NEVER happen in this manga how NH or SS fans expect, hope or want. I have learnt that lesson after several instances where I admitedly worried... and then I found out I had got worried about nothing.

Agreed,

When I said that Sakura would be clingy, I never said she would be all on fangirl mode one more. Sakura have past that stage the day Sasuke left ( that my point of view). As a matter of fact, I think that Sakura wouldn't be the only one to feel the need to be 'closer' to him but Naruto also.

They would have probably tried to understand him better, make him appreciate what he was about to lose, stuff like that. However, We all agreed that it wouln't have change anything in Sasuke mind. He was determined to leave before and that wouldn't change his mind.

As for Sakura, she wouldn't be the rotten girl that she once was toward Naruto just because Sasuke would have come back. She would still held a great respect for him to have accomplish that miracle (in fact, she would respect him even more, if I may say so)



It amusing yet very tiresome in the same way. Even if Sakura 'join' Sasuke, the 'moment' that they will share will not be like they exected because Sasuke is too blinded by his own darkness.

Of course, We not there yet, she said that she would 'join' but there is still to much that could interfere with her plan.

We will all enjoy the upcoming chapters no matter what will happen.

If that happen it would hurt Narsaku. Sakura would be so happy. She thanks Naruto of course but that is far as that goes. Remember Naruto already knows how much Sakura loves Sasuke and just let them be. Now during the fillers they probably devolope Naruhina like they were trying to do anyway. It would be cool if Sasuke joined Naruto and Sakura to help retrive Gaara. Sasuke would probably help Sakura with Sasori. But then again Sakura would still be a weakling. Damn! No Sai and no need to go to Orochimaru's layer. She wouldn't be flirting with Naruto when he returned just happy to see him back. Maybe Sasuke in the background saying "Hey Loser welcome back!"No scene at Ichiraku's and no hug. Sasuke would be pusnished by Master Kakashi for choosing to leave. I know as a Narusaku fan its all negaitive. I think he have his chance to fight Itachi but then he would of never known the truth. Just my thoughts not really into thinking really deep about it. If Naruto succeeded then I probably wouln't be a Narusaku fan. Because like I said the first one episode I seen was the filler with the Fuma Clan where Naruto and Sakura go to one of Orochimaru's layer to try to get Sasuke back.

Well, there would be no SasuKarin, that is for sure.

But, you didn't answer my question. It is not "obvious" why "The Sauce" is bashing which is why I asked. No offense to you, but I got no answer from you. I got an answer from Shippudengirl, but you missed the point.

Now if you said "Because people use it for a negative term" that's like that with every word. I could call someone retarded, but I could call someone who is handicapped retarded. Or meaning "to hold back."

I know why "Sas-gay" is bashing, but I wanted to know why "The Sauce" is bashing.




Really? It is a reference to that? At first impression was that Sasuke was always taking things way too overboard and thus some might say to him "Lay off the Sauce." Thus "The Sauce."


Naruto is the Hyperactive, Knuckle-headed ninja."
Rock Lee is "Bushy-brow"
Sakura called Ino "Pig"
Jiraiya was Ero-sennin sage or Pervy Hermit Sage.
I know Ino gave Sakura a nickname, but I can't remember. Something to do with her forehead I believe.

I think Sasuke needs a nickname too.

"The Sauce" is perfect as he really needs to "lay off of it"

The term "the Sauce" is not bashing it simply came from the Sasuke fandom at NF. Trust me i hear'em say it on the Sasuke centric chapters. It's just like saying "awesome sauce" as a general appraising term.

I think Ino gave Sakura the nickname of" forehead girl" or was it" billboard borw"? I think the last one is in the english version.

If Naruto succeed, High chance, he would confess to Sakura..

Agree

Maybe If that did happen. Sasuke was in jailed. Sakura would talk to him about the Conversation they had at the Bench just became a Team 7 about Naruto.
Sasuke would said, "We'd never have that kinda of talk at all."

That sounds very plausible, but I thought Sakura figured out that Naruto was the one that transformed into Sasuke that day as she seemed to say Naruto's name menacingly after he had to run off again... I could be wrong though...

id have to say orichimaru would have came or kabuto would have and killed the anbu watching sasuke and taken him meaning if he won he would have lost