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alexander
Well, we all know Sakura is in love with Naruto now after her messy confession, but aside Naruto who feel for Sakura at first sight, when do you think Sakura realized her true feelings? when she noticed Naruto was the one?

For me, was when Sai told her about Naruto feelings, and she remembered the POAL. I think that in this moment Sakura saw how Precious and important Naruto is to her.

Well, what about you? What is your opinion?
Gravenimage
Sakura already knows that she loves Naruto she probably wants to evade the topic because of his reaction to her confession, also that she doesn't want to ruin her friendship with him she's obviously afraid.

And just like Kushina told Naruto that she realized Minato was her soul mate when he complimented her hair, the same will happen to Sakura when Naruto tells her how pretty her forehead is and kisses it that's when she will realize he is her soul mate.
K9ofChaos
QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jul 15 2010, 04:09 PM) *
Sakura already knows that she loves Naruto she probably wants to evade the topic because of his reaction to her confession, also that she doesn't want to ruin her friendship with him she's obviously afraid.

And just like Kushina told Naruto that she realized Minato was her soul mate when he complimented her hair, the same will happen to Sakura when Naruto tells her how pretty her forehead is and kisses it that's when she will realize he is her soul mate.




QFT


What he said. laugh.gif
Uzumakikage
QUOTE (alexander @ Jul 15 2010, 02:58 PM) *
Well, we all know Sakura is in love with Naruto now after her messy confession, but aside Naruto who feel for Sakura at first sight, when do you think Sakura realized her true feelings? when she noticed Naruto was the one?

For me, was when Sai told her about Naruto feelings, and she remembered the POAL. I think that in this moment Sakura saw how Precious and important Naruto is to her.

Well, what about you? What is your opinion?



Yeah i kinda feel the same as you. I think she will always remain confuse though until she finds out it was Naruto at the bench scene.
sardns
I'll play devil's advocate here and say Sakura isn't in love with Naruto...yet. She faked a confession because she's concerned about Naruto's well-being. At best, she's confused right now about her feelings.
Sherry
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At best, she's confused right now about her feelings.


Agree biggrin.gif

I think Sakura has to realize by herself about her feelings, not by what Sai told her about Naruto's feelings coz that's not cool. Then, when Naruto finally says that Sakura's pretty (I want beautiful) with her forehead, Sakura then realizes her true feelings for him, all of it, not getting confused again.
New Revolution
look as soon as naruto got back from 2 years training sakura started flirting with him any one who can understand the manga correctly can see it.
as well wile sakura was confessing she was blushing. kish said honest girl as well as well as the american trans said sakura sasuke feelings in the past.

so my opinion beginning of part 2
Gravenimage
I don't think Sakura is confuse she knows very well that she's in love with Naruto it's very easy to tell. Compare the first time she meets Naruto after the time skip she smiles blushes and asks him is she looks more womanly showing her body in sexual so he notices it.

The the first time she meets Sasuke after the time skip she was shocked and she had a look of fear, she was obviously afraid. I don't think that's the expression of a girl who is in love with someone.
Muffins?
QUOTE (sardns @ Jul 15 2010, 04:05 PM) *
I'll play devil's advocate here and say Sakura isn't in love with Naruto...yet. She faked a confession because she's concerned about Naruto's well-being. At best, she's confused right now about her feelings.

Too lazy to type, QFT.
Toasty Warrior
But we all know that will be resolved once the truth about the bench scene is revealed and then Sakura can truly say she's fallen in love with Naruto then. laugh.gif
K9ofChaos
QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jul 15 2010, 09:47 PM) *
I don't think Sakura is confuse she knows very well that she's in love with Naruto it's very easy to tell. Compare the first time she meets Naruto after the time skip she smiles blushes and asks him is she looks more womanly showing her body in sexual so he notices it.

The the first time she meets Sasuke after the time skip she was shocked and she had a look of fear, she was obviously afraid. I don't think that's the expression of a girl who is in love with someone.



QFT


You and me both Gravenimage, you and me both. I strongly believe that she has moved on from her crush on Sasuke. Kishi did say in the interview (sorry to those that don't know were it is and absolutely hate it (not trying to offend anyone) when someone mentions it) that he thought he was writing an honest and determined girl in her confession if I'm correct.


I agree with you all the way. thumbsup.gif
zacrathedemon5
QUOTE (sardns @ Jul 15 2010, 05:05 PM) *
I'll play devil's advocate here and say Sakura isn't in love with Naruto...yet. She faked a confession because she's concerned about Naruto's well-being. At best, she's confused right now about her feelings.

Agreed. I couldn't have said it better myself.
ahmed
QUOTE (sardns @ Jul 16 2010, 01:05 AM) *
I'll play devil's advocate here and say Sakura isn't in love with Naruto...yet. She faked a confession because she's concerned about Naruto's well-being. At best, she's confused right now about her feelings.


i will reply to this and all who thinks that sakura's confession was not true by 2things :

first :if you understand the manga well from the beginning of part2 you will see sakura falls in love with naurto even before sai tell her about naruto feelings for her and see in the anime how they make the developmens and see how they make sakura with naruto
also if you see the anime and undersntand it it shows the same (sakura falls in love with naurto)

second:see this quote of gravenimage read it fine

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jul 5 2010, 05:02 PM) *
As for her confession I believe she was being honest let's looks at this from a realistic point of view. There was NO NEED for Sakura to tell Naruto she loves him in order to release him from the POTL she could have just tell him to forget about the promise and stop chasing Sasuke, although Naruto will be surprise he will tell her that he wants to bring Sasuke back to Konoha not just for the promise but for himself too. There we go Sakura will release him from the promise but we all know that he was still going to chase over him, so you see there was no need for her to confess her feelings to him.

Why I strongly believe Sakura was telling the truth in her confession???

Back at 459 Sakura told herself that she's the one who has caused Naruto the most pain and she DOESN'T WANT TO MAKE ANOTHER MISTAKE! Now woudn't lying to Naruto that she loves him just to stop him from chasing Sasuke be making another mistake because she will be using his feelings???.....it very big mistake to play the feelings of someone

Not to mention Kishi has shown in the manga that she was being honest in her confession with what she told herself in 459, with what she said back at 470 (she's the only one that knows what she's thinking or feeling depending on the trasnlation), what Sai said at 474 that everything he said about Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are in PAST tense. In addition that Kishi in the inerview said that he thought he was making" an honest and surpriringly determined girl".

If the other fandoms want to continue denying and telling themselves otherwise then it's their problem.

Think about it Sakura did lie to Naruto (about the decision to kill Sasuke) she did kept the truth from him but I believe she covered it up with telling him another truth (her confession).

Her confession was a bonus that she felt like getting it off from her chest because she thought Naruto will hate her for taking the decision in killing Sasuke (she needed to tell him how she feels before he hates her according to her).

While she confesses to Naruto at the same time she will:

1. Release him from the POTL.
2. She will convince him to return to Konoha with her protecting him from Sasuke, allowing her to continue with her resolve to kill Sasuke.
3. She will kill Sasuke and Naruto will hate her making it as her punishment for giving him the burden of carrying the POTL.

By doing all of this Sakura is basically killing two birds with one stone with her confession as a bonus any questions? kruemelmonsteryn0.gif

and i add:
1-Sakura had a good guess of Naruto's anwers if she told him that she not need his POTL and that could be proven that when sai tell sakura about naruto feelins shezoni said in front of sakura that naruto aslo want to rescue sasuke to himeself and sai it is right....so in sakura's mind (if even i free him from the POTL"and this is like impossible" that will not him stop chasing sasuke )

2-sakura's blushing when she tell naruto that she loves him and sakura hug naruto with also blushing is proved that also (sakura is in love with naruto)

and alos there is a hint by yamto in chapter 296 or 297 and episode 44 in the anime
that sakura fall in love with naruto
and onther hint in the 6 naruto movie said by sai


i think all that and only the developments(if you notice it well and understand it) is enough to say sakura's confession is true in that she really loves naruto
and if you need i have more and more evidences for that biggrin.gif cool.gif


if you have some difficult to understand all what i said .....i am sorry but i do my best with not my first language

New Revolution
@ahmed well said xD
ahmed
QUOTE (New Revolution @ Jul 16 2010, 05:41 PM) *
@ahmed well said xD


thank you thanks.gif
Muttz
QUOTE (sardns @ Jul 15 2010, 06:05 PM) *
I'll play devil's advocate here and say Sakura isn't in love with Naruto...yet. She faked a confession because she's concerned about Naruto's well-being. At best, she's confused right now about her feelings.



I agree wholeheartedly. I think you can tell which parts of the confession she faked pretty easily...and it's the parts where she's confessing romantic love. But Kishimoto drew her face a lot differently, and with a lot of sincerity, in some areas of the confession...which are the parts where she's telling him how much she appreciates him as a person. I think she's really confused though, on one hand she's got this great guy who she pretty much adores, he's always been there for her, he makes her smile, etc. Except the little hitch is she still has feelings for Sasuke. It's one of the reasons I LOVE that set of chapters because Sakura's character felt very real to me. You can tell she feels like she should like Naruto romantically...she's practically trying to convince herself along with Naruto when she's confessing. But feelings just don't work that way. It's the little moments where she has that fond smile on her face about him that make me think she's got the beginnings of romantic feelings for him. But her feelings for Sasuke are still greater in comparison to what's maybe small, new, and not clearly defined. Theres probably a little confusion going on there. Poor girl. smile.gif
ahmed
QUOTE (Muttz @ Jul 16 2010, 08:35 PM) *
I agree wholeheartedly. I think you can tell which parts of the confession she faked pretty easily...and it's the parts where she's confessing romantic love. But Kishimoto drew her face a lot differently, and with a lot of sincerity, in some areas of the confession...which are the parts where she's telling him how much she appreciates him as a person. I think she's really confused though, on one hand she's got this great guy who she pretty much adores, he's always been there for her, he makes her smile, etc. Except the little hitch is she still has feelings for Sasuke. It's one of the reasons I LOVE that set of chapters because Sakura's character felt very real to me. You can tell she feels like she should like Naruto romantically...she's practically trying to convince herself along with Naruto when she's confessing. But feelings just don't work that way. It's the little moments where she has that fond smile on her face about him that make me think she's got the beginnings of romantic feelings for him. But her feelings for Sasuke are still greater in comparison to what's maybe small, new, and not clearly defined. Theres probably a little confusion going on there. Poor girl. smile.gif

i cant agree with you especially in the part you say "" You can tell she feels like she should like Naruto ""
i think she falled in love with naruto subconscious (and that happen in the real life) because she all time with him as said before look how kishi make her and how she make when naruto is in danger look in all developments look when naruto say somthing strange she tears and say naruto in her self like when gara dead and naruto knows that and there are alot and more and especially in the anmie like i said and from part 1 she admired him very mush and liked him from even part 1 and that obvious and from the start of part 2 she knows that she really loves him

not as you said that she fells that she should like him
James S Cassidy
I think Sakura first started falling in love with Naruto, not when he came back, but when they went to go for Gaara. There she cried for him. Even worried about him. The bridge scene where they fought Orochimaru was the time she finally realized it and when Sai confessed for him....was the last straw to confirm her feelings.

Some have suggested when Naruto first came back was when she first exhibited it. I don't think so as this is more about raging hormones rather than love. She was blushing because she is a girl and Naruto is...well a boy. We always said that it was the development that makes NaruSaku special and so we have to not look at one moment that sealed the deal, but several moments that just supported it.

Sakura was confused however because she held onto her feelings for Sasuke, but she kind of got rid of those feelings when she finally met Sasuke for what he really is now. She let those feelings die, so all that is left in her life is Naruto really.

Sakura however doesn't want to lose Naruto as a friend and such.
Strangelove
I think she fell for him long before that, but in order to mix into the crowd she had to reject him and put him aside. Remember that this is a girl that from a very young age was seeking acknowledgment and trying to mix in with popularity, thanks to Ino. Of course Naruto was the outcast and everyone viewed him as the outcast, so she didn't mixed in with him for fear that she will ounce again be viewed as an outcast.

For reasons i believe, Sakura who was an outcast like Naruto, was bullied because of her forehead would have been Naruto's childhood friend but because of Ino coming in and befriending Sakura within the crowd, he was rejected on the opportunity.
K9ofChaos
QUOTE (Strangelove @ Jul 17 2010, 12:38 AM) *
I think she fell for him long before that, but in order to mix into the crowd she had to reject him and put him aside. Remember that this is a girl that from a very young age was seeking acknowledgment and trying to mix in with popularity, thanks to Ino. Of course Naruto was the outcast and everyone viewed him as the outcast, so she didn't mixed in with him for fear that she will ounce again be viewed as an outcast.

For reasons i believe, Sakura who was an outcast like Naruto, was bullied because of her forehead would have been Naruto's childhood friend but because of Ino coming in and befriending Sakura within the crowd, he was rejected on the opportunity.



If I'm correct, your trying to say that Sakura fell for Naruto before the start of the series? If so, then I agree with you. I have a theory that's been at the back of my mind for quite some time now. You know that scene in the anime where Sakura was like "You'll never guess who I like, it's a secret" and those girls where assuming it was Sasuke and saying how a lot of girls were after him and then Sakura was like "I guess I've got a lot of competition" after that? I think she was probably referring to Naruto but decided to say it was Sasuke so she would fit in with the popular crowd. I'm not sure if this theory is possible since I don't know if that scene was added filler or not so could someone specify if it was filler or not please? Though I still do agree that she may have known Naruto and fallen for him before they were in the academy and before her crush on Sasuke.


That's what I think at least. happy.gif
Gravenimage
Those who are saying that Sakura fell in love with Naruto in part 2 I will say that your all wrong. Re read part 1 again and check every single panel you'll know what I mean. Sakura since part 1 started had subconcious feelings for Naruto she likes him because he was just like her, looking for acknowledgement from everyone especially Sasuke's approval. She knows about rejection too from when she was teased by the kids because of her forehead although not to the same degree of Naruto but at least she understood him a little.

The thing is she didn't realize of those subconcious feelings for him because of her crush for Sasuke, it was blinding her real feelings along with hidding her real self (aka fan girl Sakura) whenever she was near him while with Naruto she didn't had to pretend to be someone else, someone she's not she was her real self (the reflection of inner Sakura). Like strangelove mentioned Sakura wanted to blend in with the crowd in order to be popular and be somebody so she obviously avoided Naruto BUT that doesn't mean she hated him like the adults did, she thought of him as annoying. I am sure if Sasuke was never popular and the girls were't after him Sakura would have start hanging out with Naruto more, even if Ino or her parents will tell her otherwise. She will hang with him in secrecy.

The point is Sakura already started developing romantic feelings for Naruto since part 1. Those feelings started growing little by little as the manga progresses and even when part 2 started her feelings for him were still growing and growing until they become very strong. You can tell by the high level of concern she has shown for Naruto as well as the desire to protect him and defend him, because of Naruto's determination and her growing feelings for him (in addition to her teammate bond for Sasuke) she chose to become strong and help him bring Sasuke back to Konoha. Right now as I speak in the manga her feelings for Naruto are still growing and I'm sure anyone can tell that her behavior around him shows the development of something strong, it's not just a silly fan girl crush but true love.
primary colours123
Hey,
I think Sakura has understood her own feelings for a long time. I don't think a specific time can be allotted, but she knows that she cares for Naruto, and that goes much beyond friendship. Her little actions throughout part two have signified that. Moreover, when in 496-497 Yamato was about to discuss her feelings, her face looked like a child caught with her hands in the cookie jar. That simply signifies that either she knew before that, or had realised in that very moment that the feelings she had been having for Naruto should most probably be labeled as love. If I have to point out a particular time, I think that would be it. She had feelings for him since a long time, I think that was the time she realized their depth.
The problem here I find is not Sakura's feelings for Naruto, but Naruto's apparent feelings for Sakura. For the majority of part two, he has not given many indications that he actually wishes to pursue a relationship with her. Least of all to her. So, she is most probably confused about Naruto's feelings, whether he really wants her or not. One might argue, that Sai specifically stated that Naruto loves her. But then, it was Sai, for all she knows, he could've been mistaken. We, the readers, via the flashback, know he was interpreting the things correctly, she doesn't. And moreover, after the guilt trip that Sai sent her on, I don't think she thinks herself to be very worthy of Naruto. These two facts seem to be the reason that she seems reluctant to acknowledge the feelings, even to herself. Hence the hurried confession with all the intents of self sacrifice.
@Mr Gravenimage: I completely agree. She started developing feelings for him in part one itself, though the realisation came much later.
Take care.
Gravenimage
QUOTE (primary colours123 @ Jul 17 2010, 12:25 PM) *
Hey,
I think Sakura has understood her own feelings for a long time. I don't think a specific time can be allotted, but she knows that she cares for Naruto, and that goes much beyond friendship. Her little actions throughout part two have signified that. Moreover, when in 496-497 Yamato was about to discuss her feelings, her face looked like a child caught with her hands in the cookie jar. That simply signifies that either she knew before that, or had realised in that very moment that the feelings she had been having for Naruto should most probably be labeled as love. If I have to point out a particular time, I think that would be it. She had feelings for him since a long time, I think that was the time she realized their depth.
The problem here I find is not Sakura's feelings for Naruto, but Naruto's apparent feelings for Sakura. For the majority of part two, he has not given many indications that he actually wishes to pursue a relationship with her. Least of all to her. So, she is most probably confused about Naruto's feelings, whether he really wants her or not. One might argue, that Sai specifically stated that Naruto loves her. But then, it was Sai, for all she knows, he could've been mistaken. We, the readers, via the flashback, know he was interpreting the things correctly, she doesn't. And moreover, after the guilt trip that Sai sent her on, I don't think she thinks herself to be very worthy of Naruto. These two facts seem to be the reason that she seems reluctant to acknowledge the feelings, even to herself. Hence the hurried confession with all the intents of self sacrifice.
@Mr Gravenimage: I completely agree. She started developing feelings for him in part one itself, though the realisation came much later.
Take care.


You made a good point my friend but 496-497 don't you mean 296-297??? sweat.gif
Uzumakikage
QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jul 17 2010, 12:28 PM) *
Those who are saying that Sakura fell in love with Naruto in part 2 I will say that your all wrong.


No offense but you said Sakura doesn't love Naruto but yet you stated she has romantic feelings for him. Same thing if you ask me. err.gif
Gravenimage
QUOTE (Uzumakikage @ Jul 17 2010, 01:39 PM) *
No offense but you said Sakura doesn't love Naruto but yet you stated she has romantic feelings for him. Same thing if you ask me. err.gif

When did I said that Sakura doesn't love Naruto? huh.gif

narusakuof21
WARNING MEGA SPOILER ALERT ON THIS POST!!!!!!!!

not to be a party killer but when sakura "confessed her love" it was to stop Naruto from keeping his promise to get Sasuke back. She faked the "confession" to protect Naruto but he saw thought it and then learn of Sakura main reason of the fake confesstion from Sai the she is going to kill Sasuke herself and doesnt want to hurt Naruto.
Uzumakikage
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When did I said that Sakura doesn't love Naruto? huh.gif


Didn't you say that "those who are saying that Sakura fell in love with Naruto in part 2 I will say that your all wrong"?

headscratch.gif Maybe i'm confused.

QUOTE (narusakuof21 @ Jul 17 2010, 05:03 PM) *
WARNING MEGA SPOILER ALERT ON THIS POST!!!!!!!!

not to be a party killer but when sakura "confessed her love" it was to stop Naruto from keeping his promise to get Sasuke back. She faked the "confession" to protect Naruto but he saw thought it and then learn of Sakura main reason of the fake confesstion from Sai the she is going to kill Sasuke herself and doesnt want to hurt Naruto.

The shouting won't come out of my head. argh1.png I'm just kidding. fu.png
K9ofChaos
I agree with Gravenimage and Primary Colours123 for what they said about Sakura's feelings, especially the point that Primary Colours made about why Sakura's confession seemed weird. She was probably confused about whether or not Naruto wanted to be in a relationship and after the guilt trip, Sakura might think she's not worthy for Naruto, thus leading to the rushed, awkward, poorly timed confession.


By the way, welcome to the H&E forum Primary Colours123. wave.gif


EDIT: Oh wait, you joined earlier than me. sweatdrop.gif


You still make a good point though. thumbsup.gif
tricksie
QUOTE (K9ofChaos @ Jul 17 2010, 12:56 PM) *
If I'm correct, your trying to say that Sakura fell for Naruto before the start of the series? If so, then I agree with you. I have a theory that's been at the back of my mind for quite some time now. You know that scene in the anime where Sakura was like "You'll never guess who I like, it's a secret" and those girls where assuming it was Sasuke and saying how a lot of girls were after him and then Sakura was like "I guess I've got a lot of competition" after that? I think she was probably referring to Naruto but decided to say it was Sasuke so she would fit in with the popular crowd. I'm not sure if this theory is possible since I don't know if that scene was added filler or not so could someone specify if it was filler or not please? Though I still do agree that she may have known Naruto and fallen for him before they were in the academy and before her crush on Sasuke.


What a sweet, interesting take on things! Never thought of that!

I think it Sakura's feelings were building all along. There's no real beginning. She was both annoyed and surprised by him, almost interchangeably. Her adoration of Sasuke was a choice, like turning on a faucet, and based on nothing. Her care for Naruto is based on years and years of friendship and experiences. She couldn't turn that off if she wanted to.

But there is definitely a noticeable difference at the beginning of Part 2. Eh, absence makes the heart grow fonder, and all that. But there is definitely attention/attraction from her, rather her reacting to the goofy things Naruto says in part 1.

As for her confession, I think she wasn't confused as much as she was telling him things she'd never had to put a name on before. Her relationship with Naruto had always been easy and never in doubt. Somewhere along the line though, she had to make a choice to kill Sasuke. Which one was more important to her? Well, it would have to be Naruto. And if she cared about him so much that she would kill her old love, then she must feel even more for Naruto.

I think Graven-chan said it, that she could have easily told him to break off his POAL without confessing love, and then to physically hug him, touch him, explain her depth of feelings...all of this is so he will only hate her a little less once he finds out what she's done.

I think she's not confused, just giving voice to feelings that she's just discovering. That were there all along.

What if it were the other way around, and Naruto was going out to kill Sasuke before he killed her? I can see Naruto doing the same thing, telling her how much he has always loved her. So that when the inevitable does happen — he is killed stopping Sasuke (as she would have been) — then Sakura is left with some understanding. That would make a lovely little fanfic wouldn't it! As would K9's theory! smile.gif

What a great, thought-provoking thread!
primary colours123
Hey,
QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jul 17 2010, 08:02 PM) *
You made a good point my friend but 496-497 don't you mean 296-297??? sweat.gif

Eh.... hehehe sweatdrop.gif . Yeah. I'm not very good with no.s but I mean 296-297.

QUOTE (K9ofChaos @ Jul 17 2010, 11:22 PM) *
I agree with Gravenimage and Primary Colours123 for what they said about Sakura's feelings, especially the point that Primary Colours made about why Sakura's confession seemed weird. She was probably confused about whether or not Naruto wanted to be in a relationship and after the guilt trip, Sakura might think she's not worthy for Naruto, thus leading to the rushed, awkward, poorly timed confession.


By the way, welcome to the H&E forum Primary Colours123. wave.gif


EDIT: Oh wait, you joined earlier than me. sweatdrop.gif


You still make a good point though. thumbsup.gif

th_glomp.gif Thank You for the welcome. I generally stay dormant with brief spurts of action. So really doesn't matter whether I joined earlier.
Glad you guys liked my points though.
Take care.
Gravenimage
QUOTE (tricksie @ Jul 17 2010, 04:03 PM) *
What a sweet, interesting take on things! Never thought of that!

I think it Sakura's feelings were building all along. There's no real beginning. She was both annoyed and surprised by him, almost interchangeably. Her adoration of Sasuke was a choice, like turning on a faucet, and based on nothing. Her care for Naruto is based on years and years of friendship and experiences. She couldn't turn that off if she wanted to.

But there is definitely a noticeable difference at the beginning of Part 2. Eh, absence makes the heart grow fonder, and all that. But there is definitely attention/attraction from her, rather her reacting to the goofy things Naruto says in part 1.

As for her confession, I think she wasn't confused as much as she was telling him things she'd never had to put a name on before. Her relationship with Naruto had always been easy and never in doubt. Somewhere along the line though, she had to make a choice to kill Sasuke. Which one was more important to her? Well, it would have to be Naruto. And if she cared about him so much that she would kill her old love, then she must feel even more for Naruto.

I think Graven-chan said it, that she could have easily told him to break off his POAL without confessing love, and then to physically hug him, touch him, explain her depth of feelings...all of this is so he will only hate her a little less once he finds out what she's done.

I think she's not confused, just giving voice to feelings that she's just discovering. That were there all along.

What if it were the other way around, and Naruto was going out to kill Sasuke before he killed her? I can see Naruto doing the same thing, telling her how much he has always loved her. So that when the inevitable does happen — he is killed stopping Sasuke (as she would have been) — then Sakura is left with some understanding. That would make a lovely little fanfic wouldn't it! As would K9's theory! smile.gif

What a great, thought-provoking thread!


You are correct tricksie-chan I think its only logical to think that there was no need for Sakura to confessed her feelings to Naruto without lying when she could just told him to drop the promise. If she did lied after saying herself that she didn't wanted to make another mistake she will be making a big mistake hurting Naruto's feelings in the process and Kishi will be making his heroine look bad for the public (even if the people already hate her like she was the Devil incarnate).

Sakura:

-Was willing to protect Naruto by killing Sasuke.

-Willing to make him break the promise if it means to change his mind in bringing Sasuke back to the village and ease the burden she gave him.

-Expected Naruto to hate her for killing Sasuke as her punishmen for relying on him too much and for the pain she has caused him.

Sakura believes she deserves to be punish for all the pain she caused Naruto what better way for him to hate her? especially when he hasn't done a thing to her but being a true friend and loyal companion, someone who loves her very much. Someone in this thread mentioned that Sakura may think she's not worthy for Naruto and I believe that person could be right, but this will change if Naruto does tell her that her forehead is pretty and kisess it resolving the bench scene.
James S Cassidy
QUOTE (primary colours123 @ Jul 17 2010, 12:25 PM) *
The problem here I find is not Sakura's feelings for Naruto, but Naruto's apparent feelings for Sakura. For the majority of part two, he has not given many indications that he actually wishes to pursue a relationship with her. Least of all to her. So, she is most probably confused about Naruto's feelings, whether he really wants her or not. One might argue, that Sai specifically stated that Naruto loves her. But then, it was Sai, for all she knows, he could've been mistaken. We, the readers, via the flashback, know he was interpreting the things correctly, she doesn't. And moreover, after the guilt trip that Sai sent her on, I don't think she thinks herself to be very worthy of Naruto. These two facts seem to be the reason that she seems reluctant to acknowledge the feelings, even to herself. Hence the hurried confession with all the intents of self sacrifice.


Interesting, but I don't think Naruto's worried about his love to Sakura. Remember the one chapter where Sai asks "Naruto you "like" Sakura don't you?" and "have you told her?" Naruto replies "How can when I can't even keep my promises."

So it's not that Naruto is unsure about his feelings for Sakura. He is insecure that he is not good enough for Sakura. Just as well as Sakura doesn't think she is good enough for Naruto. You said that she might think that Sai might not know about Naruto. Well same could be said about Naruto. He could be just as concerned about Sakura and doesn't understand her emotions.

ciardha
QUOTE (K9ofChaos @ Jul 17 2010, 12:56 PM) *
If I'm correct, your trying to say that Sakura fell for Naruto before the start of the series? If so, then I agree with you. I have a theory that's been at the back of my mind for quite some time now. You know that scene in the anime where Sakura was like "You'll never guess who I like, it's a secret" and those girls where assuming it was Sasuke and saying how a lot of girls were after him and then Sakura was like "I guess I've got a lot of competition" after that? I think she was probably referring to Naruto but decided to say it was Sasuke so she would fit in with the popular crowd. I'm not sure if this theory is possible since I don't know if that scene was added filler or not so could someone specify if it was filler or not please? Though I still do agree that she may have known Naruto and fallen for him before they were in the academy and before her crush on Sasuke.


That's what I think at least. happy.gif


That's a really interesting theory and you back it up well.

As far as when she consciously realized her feelings for Naruto, ironically I can see it happening the very moment Naruto makes the POAL- look what she thinks in reaction and how it foreshadows part of what she says in 469 to Naruto...

And look at her interaction with Naruto in the hospital, the way she's already stepping away from her feelings for Sasuke and emphasizing Naruto's bond with Sasuke. She tries to get Naruto to end the POAL, and when he refuses she apologizes for being too weak and promises to get stronger so the next time they can go after Sasuke together. Then she promptly goes to Tsunade to ask her to train her to become stronger, and in Sakura's mind she is putting equal importance to Naruto and Sasuke. She was moving away from romantic feelings for Sasuke already at this point and moving toward falling deeply in love with Naruto. By the time Naruto returns from the 2 1/2 year training, it's unquestionably Naruto who Sakura is in love with, one only has to compare Sakura's reactions upon her first meeting with Naruto and her first meeting with Sasuke. And as someone else pointed out she may have not know before 297 it was love she was feeling, but she certainly knew she was attracted to Naruto and had intensely protective feelings for him. As soon as Yamato even hints in the correct direction, she knows it's love, and from that point she acts toward Naruto as if she was his girlfriend. Naruto is oblivious to the point of firm denial when Sakura confesses her feelings. (for the most part- the attempted feeding scene momentarily broke through that POAL wall Naruto had constructed in his mind- something Sakura knew nothing about and was horrified to find out when Sai told her.) Sai seems to corrected the mess he unintentionally created between Naruto and Sakura, Naruto's words and actions from the point he rescues her from Sasuke onward seems to point toward him realizing he and Sakura do have some mutual romantic feelings- and Kushina's story about how her feelings evolved for Minato by his words and actions toward her, is quite likely a foreshadowing of Naruto's words to Sakura soon.
ahmed
QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jul 18 2010, 06:48 AM) *
You are correct tricksie-chan I think its only logical to think that there was no need for Sakura to confessed her feelings to Naruto without lying when she could just told him to drop the promise. If she did lied after saying herself that she didn't wanted to make another mistake she will be making a big mistake hurting Naruto's feelings in the process and Kishi will be making his heroine look bad for the public (even if the people already hate her like she was the Devil incarnate).

Sakura:

-Was willing to protect Naruto by killing Sasuke.

-Willing to make him break the promise if it means to change his mind in bringing Sasuke back to the village and ease the burden she gave him.

-Expected Naruto to hate her for killing Sasuke as her punishmen for relying on him too much and for the pain she has caused him.

Sakura believes she deserves to be punish for all the pain she caused Naruto what better way for him to hate her? especially when he hasn't done a thing to her but being a true friend and loyal companion, someone who loves her very much. Someone in this thread mentioned that Sakura may think she's not worthy for Naruto and I believe that person could be right, but this will change if Naruto does tell her that her forehead is pretty and kisess it resolving the bench scene.

yes i agree with you and primary colours123 and Ciardha

and as for for the confession :i think sakura lying is impossible from all the ways because:(and said it before in page )but i add now)

1-as gravenimage mentioned before:she told herself (not sai who said or yamato...... no she who said) she will not make onther mistake.... not only if kishi make her lied all will hate her....how he will deny all this deveopments he make and the 2 hints ....and onther 2 hints in the 6naruto movie made by kishi???
it is impossible becaus i think kishi already prove that sakura really loves naruto even before the confession ... all these developments and make her hug him very romantically hug after he returned the village also prove that she really loves him ..... i believe that from the first and before the confession all the developments only prove that ...... and also as mentioned before from the realistic point of view:there is was no need for the confession to break the POTL ....she can just tell him break the POTL i dont need it ....but as gravenimage said before she was(in her mind)want to tell him how she feels for him befor he hate her(in her mind)........
in the anime i am wating this episode of the confession and the episode when sai will talk to naruto becaus in the anime make more and more developments and any one see it knows that she really loves him .... and i think in the anime they will make her when you only see her(when she confess) you believe that she is completley true and she really loves him and i think also they will make every thing is very obvious (like always) . i can guess the episode of the confession will be after about 7 episodes ... and when it come i will come with it and i will tell al what was sai speak to naruto

2-i believe that he close all the ways of sakura's feeling to sasuke (even i believe she moved on from sasuke long time ago)after first:when she told sasuke that she loves him mush and he knocked her and leave her on the bench ... second: when sasuke tried to kill her 4 times and specially the last 2 times
so after all these(NarutoIzDaMan show it in the debate thread more and more obvious )and what NarutoIzDaMan said before i cant think that she have any feelings for him

3-i believe also that kishi close all the ways to NH (more than one mentioned that before in the debate thread )
first:hinata ignored by naruto by more than 60 cahpter
second:naruto never think in her as love interest by any way and he cant understand he mush and in every time whe hinata is fainted he cannot think why she fainted (he cant understand her)
third:after pain die and whe he returned to the village: i think if he had any feelings for her he will go to her and thank her for helping him to can beat pain ....... so after thos he close all the ways to naruto for having any feelings for her or at lesat can understand her ... he just think think her as good friend
[b]fourth
:the way of the smile of hinata(that kishi made) when sakura hugged naruto in chapter 450 seems to be that she want him only to be happy with who he love and who she love him(sakura)..... it think if kishi intend by any way to make NH he will make her very angry .....but never .....he make her very happy for him
fifth:if kishi inted by any way to make NH he must make developments .....and that never happen.....but happpen with sakura and naruto....he make more and more of developments
six:also if kishi intend to make NH ...i think that he was should make hinata defence for naruto in chapter 488....but never happen it is sakura who defence for him ....and hinata dosenot make thing

so from all sides i am sure the confession is true

and also as grevenimage said before : by make sakura loves naruto he show to us how the true love that is depent on FRIENDSHIP and ACCEPTANCE and TRUST......not a crush of a girl for a popular guy like SS or even NH that hinata dosnot know anything about him when is now a young man

EDIT:I made this post and i know itsnot it place but i cant understand why some peoples in this forum are still saying the confession is fake becaus one reason (what sai said about sakura 's feeling .....and it is sai who said and it ismust to be romantic feelings and mustnot sai could be right) and ignore more than 10 reasons and the developments and the hints and say it is fake......SAKURA CONFESSION WAS COMPLETELY TRUE ABOUT HER FEELINGS FOR NARUTO
K9ofChaos
QUOTE (ciardha @ Jul 18 2010, 03:21 AM) *
That's a really interesting theory and you back it up well.

As far as when she consciously realized her feelings for Naruto, ironically I can see it happening the very moment Naruto makes the POAL- look what she thinks in reaction and how it foreshadows part of what she says in 469 to Naruto...

And look at her interaction with Naruto in the hospital, the way she's already stepping away from her feelings for Sasuke and emphasizing Naruto's bond with Sasuke. She tries to get Naruto to end the POAL, and when he refuses she apologizes for being too weak and promises to get stronger so the next time they can go after Sasuke together. Then she promptly goes to Tsunade to ask her to train her to become stronger, and in Sakura's mind she is putting equal importance to Naruto and Sasuke. She was moving away from romantic feelings for Sasuke already at this point and moving toward falling deeply in love with Naruto. By the time Naruto returns from the 2 1/2 year training, it's unquestionably Naruto who Sakura is in love with, one only has to compare Sakura's reactions upon her first meeting with Naruto and her first meeting with Sasuke. And as someone else pointed out she may have not know before 297 it was love she was feeling, but she certainly knew she was attracted to Naruto and had intensely protective feelings for him. As soon as Yamato even hints in the correct direction, she knows it's love, and from that point she acts toward Naruto as if she was his girlfriend. Naruto is oblivious to the point of firm denial when Sakura confesses her feelings. (for the most part- the attempted feeding scene momentarily broke through that POAL wall Naruto had constructed in his mind- something Sakura knew nothing about and was horrified to find out when Sai told her.) Sai seems to corrected the mess he unintentionally created between Naruto and Sakura, Naruto's words and actions from the point he rescues her from Sasuke onward seems to point toward him realizing he and Sakura do have some mutual romantic feelings- and Kushina's story about how her feelings evolved for Minato by his words and actions toward her, is quite likely a foreshadowing of Naruto's words to Sakura soon.



QFT


But no has answered my question about that scene in the anime in Sakura's flashback during her fight with Ino if it was in the manga or added filler.


These are her lines in that scene from the english dub. (NOTE: I'm quoting and paraphrasing here)


Sakura: You'll never guess who I like, it's a secret.


The whole sequence of explaining how Sasuke is so popular blah blah blah how every girl is after him blah blah blah by those random background characters with no names and then.................


Sakura: I guess I've got a lot of competition, don't I.


I want to know if that happened in the manga or was just added filler, If it was in the manga, could someone post a link to the chapter and page, please?


I want to know!!!!!! arg.gif
Gravenimage
QUOTE (K9ofChaos @ Jul 18 2010, 11:13 AM) *
QFT


But no has answered my question about that scene in the anime in Sakura's flashback during her fight with Ino if it was in the manga or added filler.


These are her lines in that scene from the english dub. (NOTE: I'm quoting and paraphrasing here)


Sakura: You'll never guess who I like, it's a secret.


The whole sequence of explaining how Sasuke is so popular blah blah blah how every girl is after him blah blah blah by those random background characters with no names and then.................


Sakura: I guess I've got a lot of competition, don't I.


I want to know if that happened in the manga or was just added filler, If it was in the manga, could someone post a link to the chapter and page, please?


I want to know!!!!!! arg.gif


I think that particular scene was filler I don't remember seeing in it in the manga maybe I should check back to those chapters headscratch.gif . Remember that back then it was fan girl Sakura talking so she was obviously talking about Sasuke both Ino and Sakura had crushes on him. Ino however seemed to had the crush on him because of competition with Sakura in gaining popularity while Sakura was after Sasuke because she wanted his acknowledgement.
Uzumakikage
QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Jul 18 2010, 12:42 AM) *
Interesting, but I don't think Naruto's worried about his love to Sakura. Remember the one chapter where Sai asks "Naruto you "like" Sakura don't you?" and "have you told her?" Naruto replies "How can when I can't even keep my promises."

So it's not that Naruto is unsure about his feelings for Sakura. He is insecure that he is not good enough for Sakura. Just as well as Sakura doesn't think she is good enough for Naruto. You said that she might think that Sai might not know about Naruto. Well same could be said about Naruto. He could be just as concerned about Sakura and doesn't understand her emotions.


This is what i think too James. Both need to come to a realization that they need each other to conquer their weaknesses. Then they will no longer feel like they aren't good enough for each other.

sorry if that sounded cheesy. sweatdrop.gif
Gravenimage
QUOTE (Uzumakikage @ Jul 18 2010, 12:45 PM) *
This is what i think too James. Both need to come to a realization that they need each other to conquer their weaknesses. Then they will no longer feel like they aren't good enough for each other.

sorry if that sounded cheesy. sweatdrop.gif


Agree they have to conquer and pass those hardships and obstacles in order to understand each other, I just love how Kishi defines the cliche line" true love conquers all" in his own way.
Dimitrios3
QUOTE (K9ofChaos @ Jul 18 2010, 03:13 PM) *
QFT


But no has answered my question about that scene in the anime in Sakura's flashback during her fight with Ino if it was in the manga or added filler.


These are her lines in that scene from the english dub. (NOTE: I'm quoting and paraphrasing here)


Sakura: You'll never guess who I like, it's a secret.


The whole sequence of explaining how Sasuke is so popular blah blah blah how every girl is after him blah blah blah by those random background characters with no names and then.................


Sakura: I guess I've got a lot of competition, don't I.


I want to know if that happened in the manga or was just added filler, If it was in the manga, could someone post a link to the chapter and page, please?


I want to know!!!!!! arg.gif



http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/54/13/ and the next page.

I saw the anime 1st and thought the same thing as you did. I don't think the manga reads quite the same as what the anime did for that scene. I think the anime leaves it open to Sakura being a little more surprised that the other girls think it is Sasuke that she likes before she says, "How did you know?" The anime (as I remember and I may be wrong. It has been a while) has a slight pause after "huh", as if she is surprised when they say Sasuke. Then, she makes the decision that she likes the popular guy. ("How did you know")

What I have always looked at from that scene is Ino's quote, "She's just hiding her feelings." That is mentioned 2 or 3 times in flashbacks for the scene as well as after Sakura has cut her hair and Ino said the same quote.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/57/06/ and the next page.
Gravenimage
QUOTE (Dimitrios3 @ Jul 18 2010, 11:48 AM) *
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/54/13/ and the next page.

I saw the anime 1st and thought the same thing as you did. I don't think the manga reads quite the same as what the anime did for that scene. I think the anime leaves it open to Sakura being a little more surprised that the other girls think it is Sasuke that she likes before she says, "How did you know?" The anime (as I remember and I may be wrong. It has been a while) has a slight pause after "huh", as if she is surprised when they say Sasuke. Then, she makes the decision that she likes the popular guy. ("How did you know")

What I have always looked at from that scene is Ino's quote, "She's just hiding her feelings." That is mentioned 2 or 3 times in flashbacks for the scene as well as after Sakura has cut her hair and Ino said the same quote.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/57/06/ and the next page.


What so wait a minute does that mean that Ino suspected that Sakura likes Naruto when she said she's just hidding her feelings? huh.gif
TheBerserkMoogle
I doubt Ino meant that, she was probably just giving an excuse to tell herself that Sakura doesn't actually like Sasuke.
Dimitrios3
QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jul 18 2010, 03:53 PM) *
What so wait a minute does that mean that Ino suspected that Sakura likes Naruto when she said she's just hiding her feelings? huh.gif



Although that is the way I originally interpreted the scene, I am not so sure after re-watching the anime scenes.

I looked up the anime on the Viz website and there is a pause after the "huh", so it might or might not have been that there was someone else she liked other than Sasuke. Ino does seem surprised that Sakura likes Sasuke, though. Sakura also seems surprised (or at least acts that way) that Sasuke is popular, as well.

Ino's line that Sakura is hiding her feelings is not in the anime, though. In the anime she says, "She is just acting brave and romping around."

In the episode when Naruto comments on Sakura's hair being cut, Ino again brings up Sakura's bravado. The translation on Onemanga seems to be a little different. They both mean something similar, that she is hiding what she really feels. After looking at the anime scenes it does not look like Ino is referring to any of Sakura's romantic feelings, but in Sakura not looking weak or scared at the situations even though she is scared.


http://www.vizanime.com/ep/615-sakura-blossoms
Approximately at 18:00 mark.

http://www.vizanime.com/ep/619-akamaru-tre...-cruel-strength
Approximately at 2:40 mark.
alexander
QUOTE (Dimitrios3 @ Jul 18 2010, 10:00 PM) *
Although that is the way I originally interpreted the scene, I am not so sure after re-watching the anime scenes.

I looked up the anime on the Viz website and there is a pause after the "huh", so it might or might not have been that there was someone else she liked other than Sasuke. Ino does seem surprised that Sakura likes Sasuke, though. Sakura also seems surprised (or at least acts that way) that Sasuke is popular, as well.

Ino's line that Sakura is hiding her feelings is not in the anime, though. In the anime she says, "She is just acting brave and romping around."

In the episode when Naruto comments on Sakura's hair being cut, Ino again brings up Sakura's bravado. The translation on Onemanga seems to be a little different. They both mean something similar, that she is hiding what she really feels. After looking at the anime scenes it does not look like Ino is referring to any of Sakura's romantic feelings, but in Sakura not looking weak or scared at the situations even though she is scared.


http://www.vizanime.com/ep/615-sakura-blossoms
Approximately at 18:00 mark.

http://www.vizanime.com/ep/619-akamaru-tre...-cruel-strength
Approximately at 2:40 mark.


Yeah, Ino mention to Sakura hiding her feelings was about her playing strong when she felt vunerable, and not about Naruto at all, lol, I don't think Ino know anything about Naruto and Sakura current relationship, it's too subtle even for her to notice laugh.gif
K9ofChaos
QUOTE (Dimitrios3 @ Jul 18 2010, 05:00 PM) *
Although that is the way I originally interpreted the scene, I am not so sure after re-watching the anime scenes.

I looked up the anime on the Viz website and there is a pause after the "huh", so it might or might not have been that there was someone else she liked other than Sasuke. Ino does seem surprised that Sakura likes Sasuke, though. Sakura also seems surprised (or at least acts that way) that Sasuke is popular, as well.

Ino's line that Sakura is hiding her feelings is not in the anime, though. In the anime she says, "She is just acting brave and romping around."

In the episode when Naruto comments on Sakura's hair being cut, Ino again brings up Sakura's bravado. The translation on Onemanga seems to be a little different. They both mean something similar, that she is hiding what she really feels. After looking at the anime scenes it does not look like Ino is referring to any of Sakura's romantic feelings, but in Sakura not looking weak or scared at the situations even though she is scared.


http://www.vizanime.com/ep/615-sakura-blossoms
Approximately at 18:00 mark.

http://www.vizanime.com/ep/619-akamaru-tre...-cruel-strength
Approximately at 2:40 mark.



I'm still sticking to my theory though. It's just a minor difference from fan translations and english dubs. (even though official stuff is more trustworthy)

We don't really know in full detail of how Naruto and Sakura first met or if they even interacted with each other in their childhood.

I know what your thinking."How can this be if we haven't seen flashbacks of Naruto and Sakura as little kids?" To explain why we haven't seen flashbacks regarding this topic, people have trouble with memories of when they where little, so maybe they either don't remember too well or vaguely remember. Well, maybe Naruto would probably have trouble remembering because he's not the brightest of the batch, I'd think that Sakura would vaguely remember it at the least. It would explain how they met each other and stuff. She could have liked Naruto but pretended to like Sasuke so she could fit in with the "popular crowd" and Naruto was the village outcast and she was probably afraid of being classified as an outcast or something.

It's all up to speculation at this point and I don't want to repeat myself.

That's what I think at least.

If that were the case, then one of the jokes from Naruto the abridged series would be right. laugh.gif
TheBerserkMoogle
Well, my guess is that Naruto and Sakura did interact some during their childhood, because based on the first episode (Where he goes "WAHOO!!!" when he hears he's put with Sakura.) they do know each other during that time, at least.
Miss Soupy
Sakura has been developing a fondness for Naruto ever since the chuunin exams. Romantically however, I'm not sure if she has realized how she feels yet.
New Revolution
i think she has there is alot of manga evidence as well as kish gess we will find out but to me i have no doubt anymore.
dokueki(venom)
I don't know but a good moment is when Sakura had that flashback of them when they were kids and she saw him alone in the streets. A moment of intrest on her part and before the whole Sasuke heart throb thing and it proves she saw Naruto first and it was true feelings and not for popularity. Her even having the flashback is proof enough. No flashback of Sasuke when they were kids or before the popularity. Wish I could write more but using Ipod touch and battery is low and bout to die maybe tomorrow after I charge it.
James S Cassidy
QUOTE (dokueki(venom) @ Jul 18 2010, 07:59 PM) *
I don't know but a good moment is when Sakura had that flashback of them when they were kids and she saw him alone in the streets. A moment of intrest on her part and before the whole Sasuke heart throb thing and it proves she saw Naruto first and it was true feelings and not for popularity. Her even having the flashback is proof enough. No flashback of Sasuke when they were kids or before the popularity. Wish I could write more but using Ipod touch and battery is low and bout to die maybe tomorrow after I charge it.


I thought that was an anime only thing.....I must have missed that one. have to read the whole manga again.
unhskikrforever
I'm usually a silent reader here but I just want to say something. The theory about Sakura liking Naruto even before the series started, could it be that there's a clue? I meant as in, if the theory is right, then the ending theme of Naruto Shippuden [anime] where Kishi showed Naruto and Sakura as kids, along with Jiraiya, Orichimaru and Tsunade can be somewhat a clue?
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