Dynared

Well, the final chapter of Naruto came out today.  Long story short, it sucked.  HARD.  And you're probably asking "What, are you just a butthurt Naruto x Sakura fanboy or something?"  Hell no, that ain't it.  It sucked because it made no sense.

A story that was from Chapter 1 about an underdog struggling to achieve the respect of those around him is thrown out in favor of the villain getting everything he wants handed to him on a silver platter, and the hero not getting anything he struggled for.

The story just kind of crashed in the last few chapters.  Keep in mind the main villain at this point, Sasuke, killed several people and threatened to take over the world, leading to the final battle.  What punishment does he recieve?  

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He is literally given everything after merely saying the words "I'm sorry."  Sakura, whose growth from fangirl to indepdenent woman was a major focus of the last several hundred chapters, has all her development undone so she can fangirl over Sasuke.  The same man who has verbally abused and physically attacked her less than 7 chapters ago.  The hero's lingering feelings for her, never acknowledged!

So yeah, the hero's struggle was deemed pointless.  The moral being - Effort is worthless, as long as you win the gene lottery, you'll get everything you'll ever want.  If not, sucks to be you!

And then we get the most ridiculous fan pandering crap ever.  Chapter 700.  Orochimaru and Kabuto?  Never explained.  Why Kakashi was appointed Hokage and then stepped down?  Never elaborated on.  Instead we get lots of random pairing fodder (with no explanation as to where the couples began or how they got together) ending with Naruto scolding his son, who's implied to be neglected by his father.

Gonna go over that again.

The son of the orphan is being neglected by his father.

The hero has gone from the theme of beating the odds of the previous generation to repeating their mistakes.  The dozens of lingering plot threads were never wrapped up in any satisfactory way.  And the main villain gets the hero's love interest, turned into a battered housewife, in literally every sense of the word.

The manga had 700 chapters to do two things if this was the ending they wanted to come up with.  Make Sasuke have some redeemable qualities, and make Hinata important.  The story did neither.  It pushed Hinata to the side, making light of her unrequited crush, and make Sasuke more and more conventionally evil, finally ending with his plans to take over the world.  But at no point is he ever acknowledged as being in the wrong.

The moral of this underdog story is - Be a jerk, be abusive, be unrepentant, but as long as you say you're sorry, everything will fall into your lap.  Hard work is for chodes.

Well, I'm sure as hell not reading Naruto Babies.  

You know what?

This was just so badly written it turns right back from being tragic to being hilarious.  None of this made sense, and the entire manga is just this shambled wreck of awful.

Ok can someone fill me in what is this LeeSaku SuiSaku  ? That can be real right  I can't believe he made Sakura into a baby machine right ?

She's the town bicycle for everyone but Naruto?

This IS worse than One More Day!  This is worse than Spider-Man selling his marriage to Satan!

Hinata dies. The End.

Are you guys NaruSaku fans or Sakura fans? At least be happy for her. 

Be happy that all her character development was trashed and she ended up with someone who is for all intents and purposes, a physical abuser?

Sure, I'll get right on that.

Movie is just to end Hinata's feeling I think.

That's been my theory.  The ads suggest it's about Hinata getting with Naruto, but the plot twists it - It's about her getting over him.

I think they would have to either make him go with Sakura or be alone given the relationship that has been built up in the manga.

I almost hate to use this as an example, but the relationship between Naruto and Sakura reminds me of the main relationship in G Gundam of all things, between Domon and Rain.  It starts out as a strictly business relationship, and then over the course of 50 episodes evolves into a friendship and then a genuine love.  They don't magically fall in love after understanding each other.  They develop naturally and the love that comes from it is totally believable.  

That's what Naruto and Sakura are to me.  It's a relationship that went from business/adversarial to genuine friendship to a promise fulfilled, and hopefully in the last chapter, mutual love.  To reject that in favor of a a one-dimensional insert would be a tragic ending.

So... I'm pretty sure NaruHina is confirmed in this movie. This pretty much sucks a lot.

If it is, it will permanently stain my view of the series.  A manga I've read for 11+ years throwing out logic for this idiotic pandering.

It's not the absence of comical scenes, but the absence of his romantic toughts about anyone. They're a mystery. The last time when he really demonstrated something was in Sai's flashback about why he didn't declare to Sakura yet. It's a fact that he loves (or loved) her, but it's also a fact that Naruto never made any question of being in a serious relationship with her. He accepts anything she can offer to him.

 

After Hinata's confession at the Pain arc, Naruto just frost his romantic side. We know that he still likes Sakura, but we don't know the current level of it and if he has something in development for Hinata. And if you ask me... Games, fillers, and etc with NH materal now looks like that everything was to prepare terrain for those two. 

 

If Naruto stays with Hinata, it'll have a great message! It'll mean that things don't have to be decided only by fate, that you can give a chance to live something different out of the boderlines of the previsible. Parallels, past events, development in the trash... This is all about maturity. Who never spent a lot of time in a crush to someone that simply didn't work out? NS have a great storyline, they share a beautiful bond of friendship and care, they share a huge karma (the fool boy, the smart girl and the dark friend)... It's really cool. But it's not just because you want something that you'll get it. Life is about some things not going accord with the plans very well, as well!

It's true, Naruto's the main character... But that means that everything will go as he pleases? 

 

That's not the only positive message that NH can send, but I'm not going deep on this because I really don't want to sound like a shipper. I'm just accepting things... I prefer NS over any other pairings, but if things have to go like this... I'm finding the animation really gorgeous, but I'm not satisfied with the plot, it sounds too generic... :( The only thing I hope is that there's more about the movie than just this NH romance between the end of the world. If Sakura had an big role in the movie too it would be awesome! A love triangle is better, it's always better. 

Speaking solely from a writer's perspective, I don't think it works there either.  What it is saying is that the hero who never gives up, who has tried his damndest to defy the shortcomings of those who came before him, still fails to defy those shortcomings, and is stuck with a one-dimensional insert for lonely fangirls.  That's...not a happy ending.

For all her faults, Sakura is a character.  One that like Naruto, grows and matures with the story.  She has her own arc, her own conflicts, her own desires.  And I'd rather have two characters come together than a character and a flat insert.

what if the epilogue is Naruto being shown married to Hinata and then the movie is their love story and how they got together? :/

 

wow...so they're actually gonna throw away all those NS evidence,hints and parallels for Hinata's childish feelings? lol..

That's what I'm talking about.  It goes way beyond ship preferences.  It is bad writing, period.  It's pandering, and when you think about it, a bittersweet, if not outright tragic ending for our hero.

Hey, long time lurker, first time poster, and I needed to get a few things off my chest about this movie, only half of which are pairing fodder.

The first, is that for the very last Naruto story (until Naruto GT or whatever), the plot is pretty small scale and low key.  Some new guy kidnaps Hanabi, a character who we've seen so little of that she means next to nothing to the main cast.  Um, that's it?  No world destroying threat?  No final confrontation with Orochimaru or Kabuto?  Seems kinda...blah.  I was expecting something that would be massive and game changing, the sort of final battle you need a big screen budget to bring to life in a film, like a final battle in space or something (they do want to pull the moon down allegedly after all).  This could easily be a Shippuden filler arc.

Secondly is this constant focus on Hinata.  Hinata this, Hinata that.  I hate Hinata.  I kinda wished she had died at multiple points in the story because she would have contributed something, which is more than she contributes to the plot now.  She dies against Neji, Naruto is inspired but shown the risk of being a ninja.  She dies against Pein, he realizes that he has inspired people.  What sort of interaction has she had with the main cast outside of going "Naruto-kun" like a puppet with a string?  

If she were to end up with Naruto, after 600+ chapters of developing Team 7's relationship, for good and for ill, and not to mention, noting that Naruto's single most defining characteristic is that he DOES NOT GIVE UP, EVER, whether it be in promises to friends, threats to enemies, or his goals, is that a happy ending?  "I chases her for 11+ years but it was too hard, here's some girl the fans like."  That's not a happy ending.  That's a downright bittersweet ending for him, the same ending that Jirayia had, that Tobi had, etc.  It makes no sense from a writing perspective.  It reminds me more of the tale of a stalker who becomes violent when she can't get the object of her affection than any sort of logical, well written romance.  And for the hero who has to overcome all these obstacles to get his happy ending, it leaves such a bitter taste in the mouth of the readers that it would permanently stain the impression of the series.

And the promotion is driving me nuts.  For what should be the last movie, the LAST MOVIE, all the promo material is "Hinata this, Hinata that."  I HATE HINATA.  You're not going to endear fans to this movie if it's just a two hour declaration from Studio Pierrot about how they want to make Hinata their waifu.  It's no longer endearing, it's now shoving her down her throat.  It has gotten to the point where I now want her to be the villain of the movie, luring the heroes into a trap on this so-called "rescue" mission.  How badly has character promotion backfired when I want a character to be a villain?  You can have her develop as a character without shoving her down our throats.  Here's an idea, what if the movie was about her getting over Naruto?  Her realizing that she can be the things he is, brave, confident, strong, without needing to be with him?  That would make her an actual character.  And it seems people are less interested in her being a character than being an ugly rock that Naruto has to carry around with him everywhere.

Sorry for that wall of text, but I really needed to get that off my chest.