shadowlife

...How is that disgusting?
 

Look, she has every right to continue to think like she is, and so do others, but you can't expect that your material won't bring about disagreement. Vocalized disagreement. She has her opinions and theories, but other people also have the right to tell her that they don't agree or even that she's wrong--- just like her theory is telling people like me that I must be blind and can't see that NS and SK are canon instead of SS and NH. I certainly dislike the latter two, but I think I'm intelligent enough to see panels/chapters for what it is.

Let me point you to this thread for some education:

http://www.narusaku....=14657&p=652930

Did you read this?  Good.  Let that sink in for a few minutes...............  Ok, now read it again, and let that sink in for a few minutes.

Now read what Chatte said here:

http://www.narusaku....ic=14640&page=1

Let me copy and paste the first part since you appear to have a problem with selective reading:

Disclaimer for those of you who come here with a certain intent:

I DON'T NEED ANY OF YOUR OPINIONS ON HOW I AM DELUDING MYSELF, BEING UNABLE TO MOVE ON OR WHATEVER CRAP YOU'RE GONNA INVOKE. I am perfectly aware of all this, it's JUST A kittening THEORY! DEAL WITH IT!

OK so now that you have read that, please explain what part of that you are having trouble following, and perhaps I can explain it to you so that you can understand.  At this point, all you are doing is harassing the people in this thread.  If you disagree with that last sentence, then look up the word harassment.  It is apparent that you do not agree with what Chatte is doing.  This thread is not affecting you in any way.  In fact, you made the conscious choice to come in and read this thread.  If you disagree, then do so and move on to something else, don't keep beating the participants over the head with it.  Chatte gets enough BS as it is.  Explain to me how this is any better than what the asshats on tumblr and elsewhere are doing to her.  In my eyes, you are no better than those rabid little NH/SS fanboys. 

@Chatte: don't let the detractors bother you.  This is supposed to be a haven for NS shippers.  If you can't feel safe here, then where can you?  I have already made my peace and moved on, but I would still like very much to read your theories.  I have seen a lot of strange things over the years(seriously, you would not believe some of the things I have seen) and your theories are not pulled out of nowhere.  There is logic and reason behind them.  So please, continue this thread.

We're all disappointed in this. I started this anime 10 years ago, and I have shipped NaruSaku hard everyday for these past 10 years. I was 8 at the time, so I started understanding love and how to care for women because of Naruto. The way Sakura would change when she was with Naruto was just a tearjerker. She was so cute, and Naruto knew how to make her feel like she was the best girl ever. Any girl would of left a guy (who only gave her something good looking to see) for a guy who was raising as the hero of the world, and featured unchallengeable love for her.

 

This love wasn't even brought back up. He never got to tell Sakura all about her forehead or anything. Nothing about how he saw his mother in her. Nothing about how she made his heart go crazy. Heck, Naruto doesn't even talk with Sasuke or Sakura anymore... Team 7 isn't back together. They split up all just because they grew up?.. Sasuke has spent 15 years being a loner and just coming back for a little while to make Sakura raise a kid by herself. You would think that the two people (Naruto and Sasuke) that know the importance to have a loving family more than anyone else would be extremely attached to their kids.

 

Instead Naruto grew up (TOO MUCH) and became a strict parent. He just became hokage and his son is around 8 years old. Where was his excuse to not spend time with him those 8 years? What is Sasuke's reason to not stop traveling the world after a few months/years and come back for his child he gave Sakura? None. Just Kishimoto ruining team 7, characters development, and a lot of things that should of been resolved. This end was extremely rushed. We had no time to celebrate the victory of this long war. WHY NOT!? 15 years of work all just to be rushed off. Such a great manga that just... ruined my childhood. I thought saying "I'll never forget the impact Naruto had on my childhood" would be a good thing. Now it will be nothing but a burden.

 

Only thing good I got out of NaruSaku was understanding love and then meeting Amanda and all you other amazing people here. I swear with NaruSaku I learned to treat women like they had it all with me. That's what Naruto offered Sakura, but she wanted to be a housewife of a boring guy who left her to raise the kid alone instead. Kishimoto said it right himself. "I suck at writing romance." You sure do you piece of garbage. One Piece owned all your sells anyway, so I'll have fun watching him show you how it's done for the next few years before he quits. Because you know. After spending over 15 years working on one manga. He isn't tired of writing a masterpiece. Then again... Naruto didn't end up a masterpiece... did it?

I am all out of likes for the day.  I was still in my 20s when I started reading Naruto.  I am now 40.  I just feel like Naruto got totally kitten on.  Still trying to warp my head around all of this.  Sadly, what I think we are seeing, is the worst case of executive meddling and it started several years ago.

My Wife just got home and read the ending. This is our conversation while she was reading it:

Wife: "What the f*****g hell is this steaming pile of dogs***!  This is not funny.  Where is the real chapter?"

ME: "No joke, this is the real chapter ending"

Wife: "Did Kishi hire a bunch of monkeys to write the ending? Is this a troll? I don't get it.  This is totally OOC."

Me: "I have no idea"

Wife: "This has SP written all over it."

Me: "Probably."

Wife: "OMFG, what the f*****g hell did they do to my Gaara!"

(oh yea she is a hardcore Gaara fan)

WIfe: "These pairings, who decided this was a good idea?"

Me: "SP maybe? Editors? Executives?  Take your pick. I dunno"

Wife: "Did Ino and Sai adopt an alien child or something?"

Me: "Maybe, but I think the kid is biological"

Wife: "O.M.G."

Wife: "Yeah this a big FU from Kishi to the whole fandom"

Me: "That would not surprise me"

She is not convinced that this is a real ending, but I disagree.  Sometimes it happens when editors and others who have no literary talent decide what is best for the story and not the author.  Sad but true.  What surprised me was that she was more upset than I was. I had followed the series for about 10 years longer than she had. However, she loves to read, and she doesn't like it when a series just flips like this.

I am still new, and I will not be going anywhere unless the site is shut down.  I am glad you are keeping the site up Smiter.

The ending was "off" to me, I can't explain it, and I am not delusional as some NH shippers have painted me to be.  NH shippers that happen to be friends of mine, are just as outraged at the ending and it seems off to them too.  The last couple of days it has occurred to me that the most vocal of the NH fandom, are likely still hormone driven teenage boys that have not developed any maturity yet.  I suspect that when they grow up, they will feel the same way about this that we do.  Hey I can dream, right?

At any rate, I hope the site stays put.  Who says it has to only be about NS shipping.  To me, NS is still cannon even though I am more neutral than anything but there are still other mangas and animes out there.  Besides, there are a lot of good people here.  I would hate to see them go away.  I sill stick around as much as time permits.