Nostradamus

Is this place dead?

Honestly pretty much, yes.

I mean in all honestly it was to be expected. Naruto ended what 10 years ago, 15 years ago, I don't even remember, nor do I care enough to look it up.

We've talked about pretty much every single thing we could've. Once in a while some troll signs up and tries to do some damage, but usually he or she is quickly dealt with.

Burrito is just rubbish that none of us are interested. I do have massive respect for Bail o' Lies for destroying his brain cells reading it and posting a summary of what happened. Once in a while I read a summary from him and immediately after I finish I go for 2 tons of vodka in order to kill all my brain cells that stored any information about what I just read because Jesus Christ that thing is absolute dog crap.

Plus we all have our lives and the truth is we've gotten older and with age also came certain moments in our lives that affected us and made us look differently towards a fictional piece of entertainment. We've lost that passion that we once had or at least I did, I used to like writing walls of text thinking about every single detail I could in that moment, making sure nothing can be debunked, having all the right counter arguments to absolutely destroy anything and anyone, thinking of every single thing that could be said, etc., and now? Now I'm like whatever.

That passion at least for me is gone. For example I do have to write something completely separate from Naruto, but I still haven't started yet. This was something I wanted to write for about 2 years at this point. I wrote some bullet points of what I want to say, but no more than that.

I still maintain my position that one day we will get a Naruto do-over of the ending. I don't know when. I don't even know if we would care or if any of us would be alive by then. It's a truth we have to accept.

I do think that after Toriyama's death; Kishimoto did some internal reflections and maybe looked at himself differently because when Toriyama died a whole world was devastated by his departure. I even cried even though I have never meet the man, nor did I have any emotional attachment to Dragon Ball like I did with Naruto. But his death affected me, something that I'm sorry to say won't affect me if I hear Kishimoto dies.

Kishimoto's legacy will not be known fondly like Toriyama's.

What does Kishimoto have to show for? A manga that ran for 15 years then at the very end destroyed itself and all the positive messages it tried to tell its readers. That's it.

An abomination of a continuation that no one asked for or wants. Interviews of insulting the paying customers by telling them, they read it wrong and contradictions.

I think in a way I hope that it affected him enough to rethink what he did or allowed to be done because even at this point I still have no idea who was really responsible for the mess that came.

I hope he realizes this and does something to fix it. Maybe he won't do it for us, but for his own memory.

New video showing everything wrong with sasusaku https://youtu.be/xXt...?feature=shared

The last part with NS is good. Talking about the confession. He's right that scene was a set-up for moment later on.

A moment that never came, and we all know why.

Happy New Year all of you.

Merry Christmas all of you.

New pages:

I actually forgot this existed.

Rest in Peace.

https://thatparkplac...g-about-the-ip/

 

Rumor: Lionsgate’s Live-Action Naruto Film Is “A Complete Disaster” With Producers Not Knowing “Anything About The IP”

Guess Kishimoto trusted Hollywood, he is a fan of Hollywood movies, and didn't keep an eye on it like Oda. Problem is most Hollywood hates Japanese entertainment and blame it for them losing viewers. Since they are not going to self reflect.

That would not surprise me at all, I've seen interviews with writers for the Disney/Marvel shows that happened after Endgame, and one of the requirements for getting the job was to know nothing about the source material.

And to those who watched those shows you saw how badly they were.

Hollywood in the last couple of years hired activists instead of people who know how to do the job. Obviously not the whole of Hollywood.

If the movie does see the light of day, I have zero hope for it being even decent, not to mention good.

It's a problem old as time, that people can't take any responsibility for their own screw-ups. What's worse with Hollywood is that they even went as far as attacking the fans.

Fair enough

Yahagi comments on western fans
https://x.com/DBZimr...774946712686829

It describes the NH fans perfectly.

I am now 30 years old

We got a youngling among us.

Happy Birthday.

Rest in Peace to an absolute legend.

This one hit me hard. I still don't believe it. I'm holding back tears.

Oh I know very well what Fink said about forcing behavior. I know also quite a bit about Blackrock and Vanguard and also about what other people have said. If you listen to what some of them say, of what world they envision it's terrifying. And that's only what the say in public, think about what they say and do behind closed doors. I don't like to talk about them because I've noticed people don't like these types of conversations so I usually stay away.

However I'm glad in a way that people started to pay attention to what Blackrock and Vanguard are doing, also that they even get mentioned, just a few years ago they would've flown under the radar without anyone talking about them. Speaking of flying that's where it actually scares me the most, thinking about hiring people who aren't qualified for the job, but fit their agenda is monumentally idiotic. So many lives are now in the hands of people who aren't the best for the job, but because they just happened to be born in or identify as something. But I guess for them it doesn't matter because they will have their private jets and private pilots.

That's what the majority of people do, they just don't buy the product anymore. It's one of the reasons getting the interests from social media isn't a good metric to go by. Something that looked popular might turn out to not be at all. Like NH.

They did that in the latest Spider-man game where they made MJ look like one of the writers. Take a look at the model used for MJ in the first game also used for the second and you'll see in the second they just took like small features but overall it's really modeled after one of the writers. Which sorry to say, but she isn't as attractive as the original model.

I know about the Stellar Blade controversy, I loved how people were complaining that no woman looks like that then developer showed the model.

Yeah that's what I said about One Piece all I've heard is good things, but only from people who never checked the manga or anime.

I had no idea if they liked it because it's actually good or because they're just sick of the modern entertainment. Which is why I asked for those who followed OP if it's indeed good.

I used to watch a lot of movies and shows, one of the reasons I've stopped is partially because of my own personal problems, but also because there hasn't really been anything that interests me in these pasts years. Even now I hear news about some project my first reaction is to dismiss it because I assume it's probably going to be of low quality.

Will the Naruto movie be the thing that will resurrect it? Or if it doesn't resurrect Naruto's dead corpse, at least the movie will be good. I doubt it. It's possible, but I just don't see it. Maybe I became too cynical.  

And the reason I don't see it apart from what's going on in the media lately, but also because to me this isn't the right move.

A movie is the right move, but not a live action one. You need to bring back the old fanbase, the ones that made them. Without them they're nothing. Without us back I don't see it succeeding. Sure it might bring in a new fanbase, but they didn't grew up with it, they don't have the memories, the nostalgia of all those years.

I meant who should have died in the war in genreal, not only among the k11

None.

Unless I would go for some specific storyline or outcome.       

Why do you want to kill them so much?

I think you need some deaths in for some suspence otherwise the conflict wouldn't look threatening. Heck it could even just be some recurring minor characters like those minor leaf chunin or jonin we see, some of the relatives like hiashi dying to protect neji and hinata or at least maybe knowing because he is old. As for the case with guy would of served the mentor death for Lee to grow and frankly naruto nre healing power made sakura look irrelevant for alot of people.

I do agree we do need some deaths for suspense to make it look real for the audience to tell them that no one is safe, but like Bail said it's not the lack of deaths that's the problem, it's the lack of meaning.

Take a look at Neji's death at how it was talked about. Back then when he was killed off, what were people talking about? Hinata.

Hinata having a moment with Naruto, not Hinata growing as a character, but that she finally touched Naruto's big soft warm hand. That's what they were talking about. Neji's death? Not so much. Not only that his death barely matter to the audience, but even in the story in the next chapter if I remember correctly Naruto and everyone just moves on and apart from a small moment with Lee crying over Neji while holding him, and later on Hinata begging Neji (the dead guy) to save Naruto, everyone just completely forgets about him, even Naruto even though just a few chapters before he said he will not allow anyone to kill his friends. Well one of his real friends(unlike Sasuke) just died saving him (I still hate that moment) and Naruto just fists his chest and says he won't forget about Neji and that's it. Not only going back on his word that he just made minutes ago, but even when one of his friends dies, it doesn't really mean that much. Yes of course one can argue it's war time, so no time, but still it was treated very quickly and we moved on like it wasn't that major of an event.

Again as Bail said before, it's the lack of meaning.

Okay then let me rephrase who should of died in the 4th great ninja war?

None.

Unless I would go for some specific storyline or outcome.

Just because it was a war why would we kill any of them?

As Bail said about how their death would affect the others, killing them off doesn't really add anything to the story apart from shock value.

Like Neji's death. His death even though argued by NH fans was to bring Naruto and Hinata closer, didn't have that effect. In fact according to Hinata's movie Neji's death did nothing for the NH relationship. And even in the manga like 30 minutes later Naruto declares Sakura as his girlfriend to his father. Neji's death served no purpose, either than a small NH moment that means nothing to Naruto after it's over.

Now if your question would be like: "Hey you really need to kill someone or some of them or even all of them in this war arc, who would you kill?" My answer wouldn't be a character or characters, but I would need a reason to kill them off. Again I'm not killing them off for the shock value or just because I want to, there has to be a reason within the story, a purpose to their death.

So what would I do? I would have Sasuke enter the war and kill one or even more of the Konoha 11 to make Naruto understand that Sasuke can't be saved and he can't be left alive or this will continue. That killing Sasuke is the only way to stop him from killing.

That's how I would use one or some of the Konoha 11 characters, to make a point for Naruto to understand what must be done otherwise more people will die. I would use their death to justify Naruto's action of killing Sasuke.

Here is a naruto topic for the thread, if you could kill off one member of the k11 who would it be? Also let's not do it for shipping reasons as that's why we hate neji's death.

None.

Unless I would go for some specific storyline or outcome. Killing off characters just for the sake of killing them (like Neil Druckmann does) or for the shock value is not a good thing in stories. Especially when that character was beloved by the fans. And it has never been received well in any work of fiction. It just pisses off people and alienates them and creates like a cascading event where they tell their friends/family to not bother checking out that work of fiction thus it will lead to losing the audience.

Don't understand that you can't kill off characters, because you can obviously, it just has to be done right. The execution matters. Making it make sense with the story thus far and if it's within the character.

Well it's that time of the year where we get to celebrate Christmas for those who do, actually we celebrate another year passing and we getting older.   

So Merry Christmas, a Happy New Year and let's hope we continue to be amazing and everything will go well.