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[naruto-z]

After all these years of reading fake or edited mangas/interviews, we having officially decided to form an official group of translators. So with this, we would like for all people who know a good amount of japanese to please join this post for future translations and chats about correct translations of interviews/chapters. If you have had enough of all the fake translations, find all of your japanese friends and have them join this post now!!!!

Current Members-
naruto-z
Gravenimage
Raspberii
ciardha
Froot (major contributor to the beginning)

Official Translators-
ciardha
(really need some!)

I WILL CONTINUE TO ADD MEMBERS

OFFICIAL TOPIC FOR THIS PERIOD (IT WILL CHANGE AS INFO COMES):
if you would like a specific translations please tell us

- an official correct re-translation of the 2010 Jump Festa Interview

2010 Jump Fest in Japanese --Click here to view--

ジャンフェスネタバレまとめ
・サクラはちょっとナルトに対して驕っている
・これからヒロインらしくする

・サスケはどんどん悪くなってナルトと戦うのが多分ラスト
・サスケは鷹ともなんかある
・ナルトが火影になるならラスト
・シカマルはあんまり恋愛させたくない
・ナルトの近くにはまともなのがいないからシカマルが側近的に
・ダンゾウ戦で サスケの方向性が決まる
・でもサスケは大事に描くって言ってくれた
・サクラはやっぱりサスケが好きみたい
・来年はカカシの年
ごめんここからうろおぼえ
各声優さんから岸本先生に質問
中村はやはりサクラの今後について、岸本「正直女らしい意地もみせる
周りからヒロインらしくないとかヒナタのほうがヒロインだとか言われている
がやはりサクラは自分の中でヒロインなんで、これからヒロインっぽい所見せる」
ナルトは近いが、サクラやはりサスケが好き的な発言。後あんまりナルト対していい
言葉は使わなかったような驕っている…だっけ思い出せない。
確かに確かに森久保がシカ丸の恋愛について聞いたら、杉山が「砂の人とか」って
言ってたような。岸本はシカ丸のそういう話は書きたくないそうだ。
竹内は「ナルトは火影になるのですか？」に対して岸本はなるでしょう的な発言
これには会場が湧いた。
竹内「ナルトが火影になる前にサクラちゃんが火影になったりしない？」に対して
岸本きっぱり「ない!」と断る
岸本またナルトの修行をやる発言、竹内「またナルトが強くなるんですね」
来年はカカシがメイン、竹内「これ和彦さんに言わないほうがいいな」
杉山「ダンゾウ戦の結果はここでは言えないかもしれませんがその後鷹はどうなるのか？」
岸本「ダンゾウ戦の結果は言えませんが、鷹の内部で色々ある(もめる？)サスケの眼つき
もどんどん悪くなる、つい最近ここいらへんの話が決まった」（サスケ関連があまり決まって
もいないような発言があったのでこんへんはあやふや）
次は岸本先生への質問コーナー
中村さんが「最近の展開でサクラは・・・」ってかんじで
あいつ（竹内さんが「あいつ？ｗ」って反応）はナルトの好意を利用したりイヤなヤツだけど、
まあそういうリアルな女の子っぽく描こうと思って、といったかんじ
サクラがイヤなヤツだとはよく言われるけど故意でそうしてるらしい
「ヒロインはサクラなので」「これから意地を見せるところを描く」
「みんなヒナタヒナタ言うけど・・・」
↑これはヒナタを応援する声が大きいってニュアンスじゃないかな（個人的な印象ね）
杉山さんはどれを質問するか迷いつつ（ただのファン状態）
「サスケはダンゾウと戦ってどうなるのか」と聞いて
「ダンゾウ戦が終わってサスケの今後の展開（行動というか意志というか）が決まる」
「鷹のメンバーも方向性が決まる」
「きのう担当と打合せして決めたんですけど・・・」
森久保さんは「シカマルにラブロマンスはありますか」
「シカマルはそういうのは描きたくない」
「木の葉のやつらがたよりないので、シカマルしかまともなやつがいないので」
「サスケがいないのでナルトの側近的なかんじで進める」
側近ときいて森久保さん「なら（ラブロマンスは）いいです！」
竹内さんは「ナルトは火影になるの！？」
「なる・・・と思いますけど（それ描いたら）ラストになっちゃいますよね」
どこで言ったか覚えてないけど


竹内さんが「ナルトとサスケは戦うの？」と聞いて
キッシー「戦うと思うけど、それ描いたら（物語が）ラストなんじゃないかな・・・」
森久保さんの「シカマルは？」との問いには
「・・・う～ん・・・」
今後大きい展開に絡む予定はなさそうなリアクション
「ラストは決まってるの？」的な問いかけに

「ラストというか、今後の描きたいシーンが固まったのでそこを描いていく」
終わりまでの展開が決定したというよりはラストに向けて描きたい場面を決めただけらしい
来年がカカシの年って言ったら竹内さん猛抗議
キッシー「ナルトはまた修行するんで」竹内さん「まだ強くなるんだねー」

Another version --Click here to view--

サスケの人
「その後サスケとか鷹はどうなっていくのか」

岸
「今回のダンゾウとの戦いでサスケは段々目つきが悪くなって行くんですけど
更に目つきが悪くなり…そこで鷹のメンバーともいろいろあったりして
サスケが方向性が決定着く戦いになるかな…」

サスケの人
「ちょっと言えないところもあると思うので」

岸
「そうですね、ちょっと昨日担当さんと打ち合わせして
こんな感じでやるかって感じなのでまだあんまり決まってない
カッコウつけて言ってますけど…サスケはこんな感じです」

427 名前：マロン名無しさん[sage] 投稿日：2009/12/20(日) 01:04:45 ID:???
今帰った

恋愛バレ

サクラの人の質問
「次週からの展開も気になるところなんですけど
ナルトに対するサクラのちょっとこれまでと違った感じでとても気遣ってて…
サスケくんに対する想いだとか」

岸
「サクラは…サスケ…サスケなんで、ナルトが近くにいるんでナルトも
気になっているんでしょうけどやっぱりサスケっていうのがあるんで、
そん中でアイツ結構驕ってるんで
ナルトが自分を好きだと言う気持ちを利用して言っちゃったり、
好きだとかナルトに言っちゃって
逆に…　意外となんかしたたかな感じで、正直に女の子っぽいの描こうと思ってて
そいで…ああいうキャラになったんですけど…まあ…これからちょっと意地を
見せるところを描こうかなていう
一応一応僕の中でヒロイン的な位置にありますので、
読者の方にヒロインっぽくないって散々言われたので
ちょっとヒロインっぽいとこ見せてやろうかなっていう
ヒナタヒナタって言うからヒナタじゃないよって言う」

サクラの人
「ナルトを抱きしめるみたい〇×△初めて見てなんかちょっとドキドキなんですよ」

岸
「まあ結構嫌なヤツは嫌なヤツなんですけど、これからちょっと上げるっていうか
そんな感じで描いてたんですけど…はい」

ナルトの人
「ナルトは火影になれますか？」

岸
「火影…そうですね、それ本となったらね…え…でも…なるんじゃないですかね？」

シカマルの人
「おい！いいんですか？そんなこと言っちゃって」

岸
「でも～…いやどうしたらいいんだろうね」

ナルトの人
「じゃあナルトの火影の前にサクラちゃんが火影になっちゃいますか？」

岸
「あ、それはない…それはない」

871 名前：マロン名無しさん[sage] 投稿日：2009/12/20(日) 03:30:49 ID:???
寝る前にもう一つ
ナルトのバレがあったから残しとくね

ナルトの活躍はラストの方
それまでにもう一回修行をはさむ

Interview is here for you translators ^^^^

Edited by naruto-z, 16 January 2010 - 05:53 PM.

[Gravenimage]

I will start this off by trying to find an official correct re-translation of the 2010 Jump Festa Interview.

You know they warned me not to make double posts you can put it all in one post by using the edit button. But anyway I'm with you on this one we need translators who play fair and are not letting their fandom brainwash them.

Edited by Gravenimage, 10 January 2010 - 06:11 PM.

[Froot]

Wow, you were serious? Hm... Good luck. I hope everyone on that list has extensively studied Japanese or has it as their native language. Knowing what "kawaii" or "baka" means doesn't count, either.

GOOD LUCK TRYING TO TRICK US NAO BIASED FANSLATORS

[Mugen no Neko]

Huh? I didn't think you were serious...

*laughs* If I can convince them, I'll try to get my friend to help... but I don't think he really cares
*I don't know Japanese by the way. Hopefully you didn't think that xD*

[socermania2]

YOU CANT TRICK US NAO FRIGGIN' kittenEAS!

Lets get our party on

[ciardha]

I can work with ungrammatical literal translations from Japanese (not babelfish garbage, although I can work with that, but not as well, because it's a mess). I can translate from the Japanese but with only knowing 100 kanji really well (and semi know around 100-150 more) you wouldn't want to wait how long it would take me! But I can do what the translators at Viz, etc... do, take a literal ungrammatical translation from a Japanese translator with basic knowledge of the Naruto manga (character names, country names, jutsu names) and clean it up pretty quickly. (Knowing what synonym fits best, etc... both Japanese and English are synonym rich languages, English even more so than Japanese. It's knowing what one fits best that is often the hardest part of the job.)

Edited by ciardha, 10 January 2010 - 09:45 PM.

[True]

1) No caps lock in the title

2) You want translators to give a non biased review on pairings on a NARUSAKU site? Don't you think when others see the original translators already have a preferred pairing, they won't be called biased themselves? Your best bet on pairing situations are yaoi fans who don't hate Sakura/Hinata.

3) Or you know just take the manga for what it is and just go along with that?

[Froot]

But that's no fun

[ciardha]

1) No caps lock in the title

2) You want translators to give a non biased review on pairings on a NARUSAKU site? Don't you think when others see the original translators already have a preferred pairing, they won't be called biased themselves? Your best bet on pairing situations are yaoi fans who don't hate Sakura/Hinata.

3) Or you know just take the manga for what it is and just go along with that?

True, I believe this is for our benefit not the web in general. It's to give us a translation that is not automatically biased against narusaku- something that has become infamously obvious on certain other Naruto fan sites. I'm sure not many people here are going to give a rip if those other sites call the translations we have are biased, we'll know we have the real deal, that's all that matters.

[RedDelicious]

True, I believe this is for our benefit not the web in general. It's to give us a translation that is not automatically biased against narusaku

I apologize for bringing in US politics, but this is to combat the "Fox News" effect. The problem isn't that
they are biased in which side they agree with (so are a bunch of other news channels). They are
notorious for not even stating that another side exists. So its not surprising when their viewers have
certain world views, when they aren't even aware of an opposing view.

I'm just bringing this up, because when anti-NS forces use a scene or quote, it would be nice to know
whether the translation could be ambiguous. I appreciate posts by ciardha and others, who point out
when translations can have more than one interpretation. Especially when it involves like/love/ .

[naruto-z]

Wow, you were serious? Hm... Good luck. I hope everyone on that list has extensively studied Japanese or has it as their native language. Knowing what "kawaii" or "baka" means doesn't count, either.

GOOD LUCK TRYING TO TRICK US NAO BIASED FANSLATORS

hahaha, i wasn't serious at first..but then i thought "why not???". i mean all i can do is give my best effort for the best translations that i can get

Huh? I didn't think you were serious...

*laughs* If I can convince them, I'll try to get my friend to help... but I don't think he really cares
*I don't know Japanese by the way. Hopefully you didn't think that xD*

and i'm making a group for people who are just the main of this post and a group of people who are going to officially translate for us...people we can trust

I can work with ungrammatical literal translations from Japanese (not babelfish garbage, although I can work with that, but not as well, because it's a mess). I can translate from the Japanese but with only knowing 100 kanji really well (and semi know around 100-150 more) you wouldn't want to wait how long it would take me! But I can do what the translators at Viz, etc... do, take a literal ungrammatical translation from a Japanese translator with basic knowledge of the Naruto manga (character names, country names, jutsu names) and clean it up pretty quickly. (Knowing what synonym fits best, etc... both Japanese and English are synonym rich languages, English even more so than Japanese. It's knowing what one fits best that is often the hardest part of the job.)

and thanks even offering...since this isn't even a really good group and all (for now hopefully). but i'll take watever help i can get right now.

3) Or you know just take the manga for what it is and just go along with that?

and the thing is, even on onemanga form what i hear the translations are off.

Edited by naruto-z, 12 January 2010 - 12:05 AM.

[ciardha]

and thanks even offering...since this isn't even a really good group and all (for now hopefully). but i'll take watever help i can get right now.

If you can get Innera to do it, I'd like to bounce mine off of hers, her Japanese vocabulary knowledge is signifigantly larger than mine- I'm pretty sure- so she could get one out a lot faster than me, but then I can take a look over hers and the Japanese original and point out where synonyms would give a different feel and make my suggestion on what one fits best. (I'm most comfortable doing that kind of translation work, that's where my skill is.)

[naruto-z]

If you can get Innera to do it, I'd like to bounce mine off of hers, her Japanese vocabulary knowledge is signifigantly larger than mine- I'm pretty sure- so she could get one out a lot faster than me, but then I can take a look over hers and the Japanese original and point out where synonyms would give a different feel and make my suggestion on what one fits best. (I'm most comfortable doing that kind of translation work, that's where my skill is.)

hmmm, how would i get in contact with her? would a great translator like her talk to someone like me . time to get in the big leagues

[Froot]

(Aww... This is so cute~)

Good luck naruto-z

[catsi563]

thats easy you go to her DA page and send her a note

[Nate River]

I will start this off by trying to find an official correct re-translation of the 2010 Jump Festa Interview.

Graven image is right about the double posting.

Please don't do it. If you need to add, just hit edit.

True, I believe this is for our benefit not the web in general. It's to give us a translation that is not automatically biased against narusaku- something that has become infamously obvious on certain other Naruto fan sites. I'm sure not many people here are going to give a rip if those other sites call the translations we have are biased, we'll know we have the real deal, that's all that matters.

Basically. There is nothing you can do to prevent them from saying that, so there isn't any reason to worry about it. If the translator has a pairing or character preference that is even remotely relevant to the content translation, the accusation will be made by somebody, unless someone on "their side" can confirm it's accuracy.

It's the nature of pairing wars.

[naruto-z]

thats easy you go to her DA page and send her a note

I've sent her a message, so now let's hope we can get her help. It would help us ALOT. BTW, i guess it turned out to be a very long message....

[desaix]

I can work with ungrammatical literal translations from Japanese (not babelfish garbage, although I can work with that, but not as well, because it's a mess). I can translate from the Japanese but with only knowing 100 kanji really well (and semi know around 100-150 more) you wouldn't want to wait how long it would take me! But I can do what the translators at Viz, etc... do, take a literal ungrammatical translation from a Japanese translator with basic knowledge of the Naruto manga (character names, country names, jutsu names) and clean it up pretty quickly. (Knowing what synonym fits best, etc... both Japanese and English are synonym rich languages, English even more so than Japanese. It's knowing what one fits best that is often the hardest part of the job.)

I can second the motion that this is a CRITICALLY important part of the translation process. My late father used to provide essentially the same amount of service working with an (then Serbo-)Croat ex-patriot named Antun "Tony" Nizeteo (diacritical marks on his name omitted) to translate Croation Poetry back throughout the 80s and into the early 90s. Tony would provide the literal ungrammatical translation, my father would clean it up. It could take weeks, or even months, to finish a book full of such poetry. (a lot of what they did together was published in the Journal of Croation Studies, which I believe is a now-defunct publication, but may be archived in some academic libraries, still)

Then again, that was poetry, and Naruto would be a lot less intensive in terms of idiomatic translations than poetry.

[naruto-z]

Well everything is set for the first trial translation. we've got a few people who say they want to give it a try....and i've got the best japanese version of the article on the interview (japanese).

[Tokura Misaki]

what is the word "mitai" and "yappari" mean?

サクラはやっぱりサスケが好きみたい: Sakura wa yappari Sasuke ga daisuki mitai

Edited by sakura haruno uzumaki, 16 January 2010 - 10:15 AM.