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[Jenskott]

I still want to keep a glimmer of hope and hoping that we are being trolled, but it is becoming increasingly hard.

 

 

I want to keep myself busy and move on, but I think that it will not happen until I put my thoughts in order. I guess that you can tell what writing this is my catharsis.

 

 

Firstly, I refuse make personal insults. My opinion on Kishimoto's storytelling skills is very low right now, but honestly I think that shouting "F*** you" and similar stuff is rude and uncalled for. When you are a fan and you are feeling upset, it is easy forgetting that the creator is a real person with feelings, and bashing him/her for perceived poor decisions. It is also easy forgetting that the creator was NOT attempting screwing with us. He did what he thought best, but he is also a human being, and errare humanum est.

 

 

I am... upset. And sad. I am sadder than I thought that I would be and sadder than I think that I should be because ultimately this is fiction.

 

 

However I am not angry. The only thing that I can think is... "I do not understand."

 

 

If he was plotting a NH/SS ending, why did he wrote in the DB that Naruto loved Sakura and Sakura's feelings had changed? Why he called Sakura his girlfriend in front of his father? Why he insisted on Sakura not trusting Sasuke anymore? Why all parallelisms?

 

 

And that is only the recent stuff! Why did he not develop NH further? Why Hinata never got a more important role or spent significant panel time with Naruto? Why he wrote Sasuke trying to kill Sakura FIVE times? Why Sasuke never showed feelings towards Sakura and actually he showed that he did not care for her?

 

 

Of course, I can go on and on and on and on...

 

 

Often when I found a fan whose pairing has sunk (a Zutaran, a Ranma/Akane-hater, a Shinji/Rei fan...) and I heard him telling that "There was never a single hint in the story" I shook my head and I thought "There were hints. You just refused seeing them". However, in this instance, I genuinely think that if NH/SS was always the intended endgame, Kishimoto made a lousy job hinting it.

 

 

And I can not help to wonder if he was pressed by his editors. Takahashi (Ranma and Inu-Yasha author) was pressed by her editor when she was writing Urusei Yatsura, and she got forced to change the main pairing (although she did it early on). Or he was trying to subvert our expectations and surprising us? Well, if that is the case I prefer to be NICELY surprised.

 

 

I wish asking him if NH was his intention all along, but I doubt that I would have a straight answer from him.

 

 

Sigh. I guess that NS will join my list of favorite fictional couples that were ultimately gutted by meddlesome editors, trolling creators, lousy storytellers, sell-outs or self-proclaimed geniuses with cravings for shaking thins up unnecessarily: Peter/MJ (Spider-Man), Scott/Jean and Warren/Betsy (X-Men), Asuka/Shinji (Evangelion), Ataru/Shinobu (Urusei Yatsura)...

 

 

It is sad, but I am considering selling my Naruto collection. I know, I know. You must think "Wow, what a fanboy! He is getting rid of a manga that he lived because his favorite couple did not become canon? He only read the series for NS?” I know what I sound like it, but I am so disappointed that I am not sure of being capable to keep drawing enjoyment from reading my old volumes of Naruto. Actually it has been a while since I purchased and read a volume.

 

 

If NH and SS had been developed properly I would have been capable to keep reading, even though I did not like the pairings. But it did not happen.

 

 

I guess that I am also upset because the bunch of rude, obnoxious fans that trolled us, insulted us, called us delusional, bashed Sakura (funny how Naruto must not end up with Sakura because she hit him but Sakura must end up with the guy that tried to kill her several times)… will now feel vindicated and right all along.

 

 

Oh, well. Fanboys will be fanboys. Anyway, this is my only Naruto board and it will keep being. I am NOT stepping out of here. The crapstorm is beginning, and it will last long, and I am too old to tolerate fanboys and their arguments about nothing and their bashing and hating rants. So I will remain in the NS board that does not tolerate trolls and disrespectful brats.

 

 

I guess that I will always have fanfiction. And most importantly, I have a ton of classic, WELL-WRITTEN manga/anime shows with WELL-WRITTEN couples and no ass-pulls and to keep myself amused with. Whenever I am sorry about NS I will read City Hunter and I will pretend that Ryo and Kaori are Naruto and Sakura with a PROPER, asspull-free resolution that made sense.

Edited by Jenskott, 05 November 2014 - 06:27 PM.

[rikakim94]

Hey jenskott are you planning to come back to this forum once we get over naruto? I still want to talk since you seem like a knowledgeable person. if not can we keep in touch?

 

As for what you post yes i agree with everything you said. 

Edited by rikakim94, 05 November 2014 - 06:59 PM.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Hope you stick around once things cool down, Jenskott. I'm alittle better now. This place means a lot to me, and I want to make connections I have here and reforge 'em

[Jenskott]

Thank you both. I am honestly touched for your kind words and your concern.

 

Let me reassure you that I do not plan on leaving. I guess that it may happen, but I intend to keep writing on this board.

 

Nevertheless, Naruto is maybe the last modern long series that I will follow. I followed Bleach and I got tired after 42 volumes and no end to the sight. I followed Naruto and this happened...

 

No, I think that I'll stick to classic manga and anime henceforth. They have flaws, but they have not asspulls of this magnitude, and at least they are finished series and I know what expecting from them.

 

Man, not even the romantic subplot of the original Mobile Suit Gundam was so stupid. And it was real, REAL stupid (I still have to find out why both Amuro and Char were so obsessed with Lala).

 

Although I may still give a chance to some current manga. Have you read Angel Densetsu? It is a high school, comedy manga by the creator of Claymore. I have read some chapters and it seems pretty entertaining.

 

I guess that I can also check more Ns fanfics. I have read a bunch of Asuka/Shinji fics even though I dislike the series because A/S fics give a good resolution to the one of the few things taht I liked from Evangelion (and you can not count with Anno. He is another troll).

[ALESSE]

Your thoughts justified man. I just want the chapter to end. Though I had brassed myself alil bit because of 540 and even more so 693. It still stings. This will be a tough one to swallow. But alass life goes on. A small piece of me still hopes that this is just one big massive troll. But I know it's only denial. I really want tomorow to come. Get this over and done with.

I will stick around. Though I never posted as much. I really enjoyed reading people's thoughts and going through the good with the bad.

Like you said....I wouldn't have had a problem if the story was properly developed

Everyone gets the man/girl he she wants except naruto? Really.

What hurts me the most is that kishi put all those parallels in just to troll us the ones that bought it and believed it. He developed a story and romantic sub plot just to troll. That hurts and that stings. The main character gets played like that. Though I know he is happy. Hinata is. Good girl and what not, just where the fuxk is the development. Sigh whatever....oh well.

Do stick around. There still some good fanfiction out there. And this forum helped bring some good fans together.

I just wish tomorow gets here sooner so we can have one last full blown hurrah and blow up and deal with the trolls and move on. I had a terrible feeling since 693 and so I brasses myself

Enough of my mumbling.

Great post. Sir/ms

[Jenskott]

Thank you.

 

I remember having read a person in another forum telling something alongside these lines: "Fans have ideas and opinions about what should be and what would be cool, but all of them invariably crashed with the brickwall called "People with power to say: NO"". The forum was not an anime-forum and this post had nothing to do with Naruto, but I think that it sounds right and proper.

 

I told this before in another thread the last Autumn, but it is always the same thing: someone finds out something new and seemingly cool and interesting. That person gets excited and gets hooked up and becomes a fan. He/she feels that he/she has discovered new, uncharted lands, riped with thrills, adventures and possibilities, and he/she gets eager, considering several appealilng possibilities and wondering what marvels he/she will find. He/she sees several roads and he/she wonders which choosing. However he/she does not realize that sooner or later the people who owns that world has to choose one road to follow, and maybe he/she will not like the road taken.

 

I understand this, guys/gals, but... I am nearly thirty-four-years old. I am too old and jaded to get easily excited with a new manga/anime. And I am certainly too old to get emotionally invested in a new manga/anime and then get disappointed... after spending FOURTEEN years excited and certain of the outcome.

 

Money does not grow on trees, either. I have no desire of spending my well-earned income and later feeling that I have wasted my money.

 

And since my reading experience apparently does not work in this brave new world of series where Shocking Swerves replace proper storytelling and legitimate plot twists (hence, I will be unable to identify a bad series before it is too late), I think that I'll mostly stick to concluded series from now on. So I will at least know beforehand where everything is going at.