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#1 Tokura Misaki

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 02:54 AM

(Reuters) - A Malaysia Airlines flight carrying 227 passengers and 12 crew was presumed to have crashed off the Vietnamese coast on Saturday, and European officials said two people on board were using false identities.

There were no reports of bad weather and no sign of why the Boeing 777-200ER would have vanished from radar screens about an hour after it took off from Kuala Lumpur for Beijing.

"We are not ruling out any possibilities," Malaysia Airlines CEO Ahmad Jauhari Yahya told a news conference.

By the early hours of Sunday, there were no confirmed signs of the plane or any wreckage, well over 24 hours after it went missing. Operations will continue through the night, officials said.

There were no indications of sabotage nor claims of an attack. But the passenger manifest issued by the airline included the names of two Europeans - Austrian Christian Kozel and Italian Luigi Maraldi - who, according to their foreign ministries, were not in fact on the plane.

A foreign ministry spokesman in Vienna said: "Our embassy got the information that there was an Austrian on board. That was the passenger list from Malaysia Airlines. Our system came back with a note that this is a stolen passport."

Austrian police had found the man safe at home. The passport was stolen two years ago while he was travelling in Thailand, the spokesman said.

The foreign ministry in Rome said no Italian was on the plane either, despite the inclusion of Maraldi's name on the list. His mother, Renata Lucchi, told Reuters his passport was lost, presumed stolen, in Thailand in 2013.

U.S. and European security officials said that there was no proof of any terrorist link and there could be other explanations for the use of stolen passports.

Passengers on board the flight included 20 employees of Austin, Texas-based chip maker Freescale Semiconductor Ltd. Twelve of the employees were from Malaysia and eight from China, the company said in a statement.

NO MAYDAY

The 11-year-old Boeing, powered by Rolls-Royce Trent engines, took off at 12:40 a.m. (12.40 p.m. ET Friday) from Kuala Lumpur International Airport and was apparently flying in good weather conditions when it went missing without a distress call.

Flight MH370 last had contact with air traffic controllers 120 nautical miles off the east coast of the Malaysian town of Kota Bharu. Flight tracking website flightaware.com showed it flew northeast after takeoff, climbed to 35,000 feet and was still climbing when it vanished from tracking records.

A crash, if confirmed, would likely mark the 777's second fatal incident in less than a year, and its deadliest since entering service 19 years ago. An Asiana Airlines Boeing 777-200ER crash-landed in San Francisco in July 2013, killing three passengers and injuring more than 180.

Boeing said it was monitoring the situation but had no further comment.

Paul Hayes, director of safety at Flightglobal Ascend aviation consultancy, said the flight would normally have been at a routine stage, having reached initial cruise altitude.

"Such a sudden disappearance would suggest either that something is happening so quickly that there is no opportunity to put out a mayday, in which case a deliberate act is one possibility to consider, or that the crew is busy coping with what whatever has taken place," he told Reuters.

He said it was too early to speculate on the causes.

A large number of planes and ships from several countries were scouring the area where the plane last made contact, about halfway between Malaysia and the southern tip of Vietnam.

"The search and rescue operations will continue as long as necessary," Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak told reporters. He said his country had deployed 15 air force aircraft, six navy ships and three coast guard vessels.

Search and rescue vessels from the Malaysian maritime enforcement agency reached the area where the plane last made contact but saw no sign of wreckage, the Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency said.

Vietnam said its rescue planes had spotted two large oil slicks, about 15 km (9 miles) long, and a column of smoke off its coastline, but it was not clear if they were connected to the missing plane.

China and the Philippines also sent ships to the region to help, while the United States, the Philippines and Singapore dispatched military planes. China also put other ships and aircraft on standby.

NO DISTRESS CALL

The disappearance of the plane is a chilling echo of an Air France flight that crashed into the South Atlantic on June 1, 2009, killing all 228 people on board. It vanished for hours and wreckage was found only two days later.

John Goglia, a former board member of the National Transportation Safety Board, the U.S. agency that investigates plane crashes, said the lack of a distress call suggested that the plane either experienced an explosive decompression or was destroyed by an explosive device.

"It had to be quick because there was no communication," Goglia said.

He said the false identities of the two passengers strongly suggested the possibility of a bomb.

"That's a big red flag," he said.

If there were passengers on board with stolen passports, it was not clear how they passed through security checks.

International police body Interpol maintains a database of more than 39 million travel documents reported lost or stolen by 166 countries, and says on its website that this enables police, immigration or border control officers to check the validity of a suspect document within seconds. No comment was immediately available from the organization.

Italian police said the passport of Luigi Maraldi was reported stolen on August 1, 2013 and was inserted in the Interpol database

RELATIVES ANGRY

Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi told reporters in Beijing that China was "extremely worried" about the fate of the plane and those on board. Chinese passengers' relatives angrily accused the airline of keeping them in the dark, while state media criticized the carrier's response as poor.

"There's no one from the company here, we can't find a single person. They've just shut us in this room and told us to wait," said one middle-aged man at a hotel near Beijing airport where the relatives were taken.

"We want someone to show their face. They haven't even given us the passenger list," he said.

Another relative, trying to evade a throng of reporters, muttered: "They're treating us worse than dogs."

The airline said people of 14 nationalities were among the 227 passengers, including at least 152 Chinese, 38 Malaysians, seven Indonesians, six Australians, five Indians, four French and three Americans.

In Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Airlines told passengers' next of kin to come to the international airport with their passports to prepare to fly to the crash site, once it was identified.

About 20-30 families were being kept in a holding room at the airport, where they were being guarded by security officials and kept away from reporters.

Malaysia Airlines has one of the best safety records among full-service Asia-Pacific carriers.

It identified the pilot of MH370 as Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah, a 53-year-old Malaysian who joined the carrier in 1981 and has 18,365 hours of flight experience.

 

 

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 03:49 AM

Sending warm thoughts to the families. It's so small, but it's all I can do....



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Posted 09 March 2014 - 04:14 AM

Very frightening story. Can't imagine what must have taken place. It's eerie that the flight has just disappeared, even more so with the reports about the passports.

 

I guess all we can do is hope that it wasn't the result of any foul play and the officials can find out what happened to try and prevent it from happening again.


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Posted 09 March 2014 - 05:22 AM

I hope that everything gonna be alright and nothing bad happens...seriously....we need a miracle here...and its weird that how can the plane just vanished like that cause until now, there are no sign of plane crash report.

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 05:28 AM

Ah yes, I've heard that news... It was sad really... The plane and the passenger can't be saved anymore.. It was all too late... :(

 

All I hear is that there are 4 Americans, some Indonesians, some Malaysians, and if I am not mistaken 9 Chinese inside the plane...It was such a dismay really... I am feeling bad for the families that lost their relatives in this accident


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Posted 09 March 2014 - 07:48 AM

Ah yes, I've heard that news... It was sad really... The plane and the passenger can't be saved anymore.. It was all too late... :(

 

All I hear is that there are 4 Americans, some Indonesians, some Malaysians, and if I am not mistaken 9 Chinese inside the plane...It was such a dismay really... I am feeling bad for the families that lost their relatives in this accident

 

It was much more than that. 227 passenger majority of them are Chinese. 3 infants were onboard. Such a tragedy. 


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Posted 09 March 2014 - 07:52 AM

It's been on the news here in Singapore. My thoughts to the families...

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 11:22 AM

It turns out another pilot made contact with the missing jet during it's flight, but communications went silent before anything was said to suggest that the plane was in trouble.

 

Source: http://www.nst.com.m...-plane-1.503464


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Posted 09 March 2014 - 12:14 PM

they say there's four fake passports.. implying it could be a terrorist attack..

there's 3 babies on board too.. 

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 09:34 PM

A piece of the Malaysia Airlines flight that disappeared may have been recovered
 

A piece of the tail and wing may have been found off the Vietnam coast. Theories as to what happened include terrorism and the aircraft disintegrating in the air. A source in the investigation said if the plane exploded, debris should have been found. As many as four passengers boarded the flight with false documentation, including two passports that were stolen more than 18 months ago.

The first pieces of an aircraft that mysteriously vanished in southeast Asia Saturday may have finally been found.

Pieces of the Malaysia Airlines flight’s inner door and a piece of the tail was found about 50 miles south-southwest of Tho Chu island, Vietnam officials said Sunday, according to the Wall Street Journal.

There is no official confirmation. A boat had found fragments a little further from the coast earlier Sunday that was thought to be part of the plane but it was actually just coral reef.

If this is part of the plane it could finally shed some light on what exactly happened to the flight and its 239 passengers that has been missing since an hour after it took off from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, bound for Beijing.

A new theory emerged Sunday that the Boeing 777 may have disintegrated in mid-flight.

Though authorities are continuing to examine the possibility of terrorism, but an official involved in the investigation told Reuters if the plane crashed or a bomb onboard detonated, a chunk of debris would most likely have been found in a concentrated area.

"The fact that we are unable to find any debris so far appears to indicate that the aircraft is likely to have disintegrated at around 35,000 feet," said the source.

So far there is no evidence of foul play, the source said. A basic security check was mishandled regarding the missing Malaysia Airlines flight that had at least two passengers who used stolen passports, an international police agency said Sunday.But investigators are also trying to determine the possibility of how as many as four people were able to board the flight with fake documentation.

Interpol released a sharply worded criticism of the nations for not checking the international passport database that would have revealed the passports of two passengers were stolen more than 18 months ago in Thailand.

Interpol said it was investigating all other passports used to board Flight MH370 and working to determine the "true identities" of the passengers who used the stolen passports.

Authorities believe possibly four people boarded the plane with false documentation, the Washington Post reported.

Early Sunday morning, Malaysia's air force chief said that military radar indicated the missing Boeing 777 jet may have turned back to Kuala Lumpur, but declined to give further details on how far the plane may have veered off course.

Rodzali Daud, head of the Royal Malaysian Air Force, said "there is a possible indication that the aircraft made a turnback" and that authorities were "trying to make sense of that."

Malaysia Airlines Chief Executive Ahmad Jauhari Yahya said the pilot is supposed to inform the airline and traffic control authorities if he does return, but that officials had received no such distress call.

The Pentagon reviewed initial surveillance data from the location where the plane disappeared and did not find evidence of an explosion, reports The New York Times.

If all the passengers died in the crash it would be the largest number of casualties in a commercial flight since Nov. 12, 2001, when 260 people died aboard a flight from Kennedy Airport to the Dominican Republic, the Times reports.

A massive internationals search is underway, but so far there is no sign of the plane. A pair of massive oil slicks was spotted in the South China Sea that could indicate leaking oil, but no more information is known at this point.

The plane was inspected just 10 days ago and found "in proper condition," said Ignatius Ong, CEO of Malaysia Airlines subsidiary Firefly.

A team from the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board was dispatched to Asia to aid in the investigation.

Asked if terrorism was a possibility, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak said it was too early to say. "We are looking at all possibilities," he added.

Confirmation that two travelers headed from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing were identity thieves suggested something sinister, although U.S. officials echoed Razak's caution until more details are known.

"This gets our antenna up, for sure," said Rep. Pete King (R-L.I.), a member of the House Homeland Security Committee. "Once you hear that — stolen passports, a plane disappearing from the radar — you have to go to the full-court press."

A federal law enforcement source said the U.S. was "still monitoring the situation."

King said intelligence agencies around the world would no doubt check for "communications among terrorists or any type of chatter" about the flight.

King reiterated on “Meet the Press” Sunday morning that they still don’t know the cause of the plane’s disappearance but noted the event “is a red flag.”

“The fact that the plane disappeared, that there was no Mayday, the fact that happened in Malaysia, which has been a hub for Al Qaeda activity … you put all that together and you have two people that are traveling together with stolen passports … considering what’s happened in the past, we have to certainly consider terrorism,” he said.

The three U.S. passport holders were identified in a manifest posted by Malaysia Airlines as Philip Wood, 51, and two children: Nicole Meng, 4, and Yan Zhang, 2.

Wood, an IBM employee and father of two boys, was based in the Malaysian capital of Kuala Lumpur. "We're all sticking together," his father, Aubrey Wood, told The New York Times. "What can you do? What can you say?"

Wood's ex-wife, Elaine, originally from the Bronx, described him in a Facebook post as "a wonderful man."

Twenty employees of an Austin, Texas-based tech firm were also aboard the flight. Twelve of the Freescale Semiconductor employees are from Malaysia and eight from China, company officials said.

The two passengers who used fake passports from residents of an Italian and Austrian citizen bought their tickets together from China Southern Airlines, reports CNN. The passengers used Thai currency, the station reports.

Italian Luigi Maraldi, 37, is now living in Thailand, while the Austrian was located in his homeland. Maraldi called his parents in Italy to reassure them of his safety after his name appeared on the flight manifest.

The U.S. Navy dispatched a warship and a surveillance plane to join the multinational search team that failed to turn up any wreckage across 17 fruitless hours before nightfall in Southeast Asia.

Malaysia sent 15 planes and nine ships, while Vietnam sent two navy boats, two jets and a helicopter.

The twin jets spotted the slicks in the South China Sea; one was about 9 miles long, and the other about 6 miles long, officials said. Each was consistent with the residue of a crash by a jetliner with two fuel tanks, authorities confirmed.

"We are doing everything in our power to locate the plane," said Malaysia Transport Minister Hishammuddin Hussein at Kuala Lumpur International Airport.

About two-thirds of the likely crash victims were from Taiwan and China, with distraught family members at the Beijing airport steered to a nearby hotel to await the expected delivery of grim news. One woman, boarding a shuttle bus, wept as she spoke on a cellphone. "They want us to go to the hotel. It cannot be good," she said.

Edited by sakutonaru, 09 March 2014 - 10:02 PM.


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Posted 09 March 2014 - 10:21 PM

To me there is some conspiracy behind the fake passports. Might be secret agents or whatever you want to call them.

There is no way they wouldn't have noticed a fake ID, if they reported it being stolen in 2013 it would have appeared on their database. 


 
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Posted 10 March 2014 - 12:21 AM

/\ Just read a Washington Post article where that point was mentioned. Summing up, although there are lots of stolen passports that are reported as stolen and flagged by Interpol, it is up the the individual airlines to check their veracity. And that many airlines simply do not check. Disappointing.

 

Here's the excerpt from the article:

 

International police agency Interpol said in a statement that the passports — Austrian and Italian — had been stolen in Thailand within the past two years and were not checked against an Interpol database as the passengers boarded the red-eye from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

 

“Whilst it is too soon to speculate about any connection between these stolen passports and the missing plane, it is clearly of great concern that any passenger was able to board an international flight using a stolen passport listed in Interpol’s databases,” Interpol Secretary General Ronald Noble said in a statement.

 

Noble expressed frustration that few of Interpol’s 190 member countries “systematically” search the database to determine whether documents being used to board a plane are registered as lost or stolen.



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Posted 10 March 2014 - 04:27 AM

Its a very sad news . There were babies too in there. I really feel sorry. I woner what had happened and whats with he fake passport!!

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 06:31 PM

Such a tragedy. I don't know who I feel worse for, the people on the plane and what they must have experienced, or their families and loved ones left behind to wonder. It's just horrible.






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