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[Gravenimage]

Oh yeah that cat Tora I completely forgot all about it.

[crazyefra]

I started watching it but I stopped cause I got bored. The only thing interesting was the parts that are cannon and the little NS moment and that's only in the beginning.

[tricksie]

@ tricksie - Thinking back on the council meeting, wasn't it said or hinted somewhere that Danzo had used

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to manipulate the proceedings so that he'd be elected as the candidate Hokage, like he would do later on at the Kage Summit with Mifune to try and make himself Supreme Commander of the Alliance? 'Cause if that's the case, then you can't really blame the council for making the choice. What they thought was their choice was really Danzo's, although that Fire Daimyo is a bit of a joke and needs to be given the boot (then he can go help his wife keep hold of that cat ).

You know, I thought so too. But I didn't see any noticeable signs of manipulation. You would think that would be animated unmistakeably, so that the viewer could go back and make the connection.

And then later, when Danzo was eavesdropping on Sarutobi's conversation with the elders, he thinks it's a good idea to use Sasuke's eyes to control the nine-tails (or the Uchiha sharingan, can't remember exactly how he phrased it). I don't remember that being said in the manga. So is that a prequel filler that is used as foreshadowing, maybe?

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I simply don't remember anything that specific. I know Madara controlled the kyuubi like a zombie, but it's never been detailed exactly how that worked. And it's stupid to think Danzo's happy that a 12yo kid might be able to control it, or potentially control it, when the man has a Jiffy Mart of sharingan eyes on his forearm.

So is Danzo setting out a storyline in the anime that they are going to have Sasuke control the kyuubi? Because I just don't remember anything that specific in the manga. Sasuke capturing the kyuubi, Sasuke fighting Naruto, but never Sasuke controlling the kyuubi like Madara did.

I'm starting to get confused with what's in the anime and what's in the manga.

Let's just hope that Danzo did what he was supposed to do at the meeting. Otherwise we're going to have to another filler rehashing that scene to just insert Danzo's plot points! lol j/k

[KungFuTruffle]

Danzou saying it's a good idea to give the Kyuubi to "the Uchiha" is the stupidest of the retcons. The Uchiha clan was wiped out because they were plotting a coup, and because they were thought by those in charge to have been behind the Kyuubi's attack. It's the last thing he would want, giving one of Konoha's greatest weapons to one of their potential greatest enemies.

Sometimes, I really wonder what the anime writers are taking. They don't seem to understand the series they work on at all.

As for showing Danzou visibly affecting the Fire Lord, it wasn't shown in the manga, either. It's a very powerful doujutsu technique that he's using, it makes more sense for there to be no visible sign it's working. Ninja, remember?

Edited by KungFuTruffle, 01 October 2010 - 11:02 PM.

[K9ofChaos]

Shouldn't this topic be in the premiere section of the Konoha Theatre?

[Codus N]

makes me wonder if they'll make this into a filler http://read.mangasha...57/page011.html

Actually, I think they may expand the scene a bit for sure.

[Derock]

Shouldn't this topic be in the premiere section of the Konoha Theatre?

*fixed* Now its in the correct section.

[ShippudenGirl]

Well, just looking at the comments I ain't watching it - that's for sure *-*

[alexander]

The only part I liked was the little N/S moment at the beginning, even tough people complain for Sakura acting tsundere, but the rest was just unnecessary, the next episode I'm gonna skip for sure, curse you animators for rewriting the series!

[Gravenimage]

The only part I liked was the little N/S moment at the beginning, even tough people complain for Sakura acting tsundere, but the rest was just unnecessary, the next episode I'm gonna skip for sure, curse you animators for rewriting the series!

The anti Sakura and NS fans will always complain about her so it's to be expected. Sakura will always get flame even by the smallest things.

[Kenny-kun]

Shouldn't this topic be in the premiere section of the Konoha Theatre?

Doubtful. Remember, the animators are biased against NaruSaku. You saw how short they made the hug scene while going out of their way to milk Hinata's confession.

[Gravenimage]

Doubtful. Remember, the animators are biased against NaruSaku. You saw how short they made the hug scene while going out of their way to milk Hinata's confession.

I don't think they are that biased on NS. Remember that they have done plenty of NS development ever since the beginning of Shippuden ep 166 was Mary suing Hinata anf giving her fan service (they could probably do the same thing to Sakura in her confession but I'm praying I'm wrong). However I think the animators could be upset with what Kishi said in the December interview about Hinata (I don't know if he knows that Pierot are NH supporters maybe he did know).

I don't know if it's true or not but I heard rumors that Period once asked Kishi to give Hinata more protagonism and he refused. Who knows they could be having a small battle, but the point is they have done plenty of NS even in the fillers.

[tricksie]

Danzou saying it's a good idea to give the Kyuubi to "the Uchiha" is the stupidest of the retcons. The Uchiha clan was wiped out because they were plotting a coup, and because they were thought by those in charge to have been behind the Kyuubi's attack. It's the last thing he would want, giving one of Konoha's greatest weapons to one of their potential greatest enemies.

Sometimes, I really wonder what the anime writers are taking. They don't seem to understand the series they work on at all.

As for showing Danzou visibly affecting the Fire Lord, it wasn't shown in the manga, either. It's a very powerful doujutsu technique that he's using, it makes more sense for there to be no visible sign it's working. Ninja, remember?

I know they are ninja!

It's the animation team that screws it all up. Why be so heavy-handed with some kind of f-ed up foreshadowing (as in Danzo behind the door), then be overly understated in him using his jutsu to effect everyone else? The anime has proved to be anything but subtle. They are going to have to reference Danzo Kage scene again, so that the audience understands what he's doing and how it will play out. Not a whisper of suspense or foreshadowing at all.

Now they will have to do a flashback in a future episode to fill in the missing pieces of that scene instead of building up to him having ulterior motives. But to get the point across that he has another agenda in the current episode, they show him skulking around in an entirely different flashback!

I guess my problem is that they take crazy and stupid liberties with some scenes (by that I mean adding in crap that didn't happen) and other scenes they don't touch at all, to the detriment of the storyline. Boneheads.

Edited by tricksie, 05 October 2010 - 01:37 PM.

[alexander]

I wonder if the fans on japan don't get upset with the animators for completely changing the plotline, they should send some angry letters to them.

[Merger Knight]

I do have to say bout his filler episode.

The changing of the events was bad.

But I did like the part where Kakasi was spying on them and observing them, that oes sound like something he might of done.

[Master Sage]

im sooooo done with all this filler crap im not watching next weeks episode.........awwww who am i kidding ill probably be watching it anyways (plus the new OP&ED for ep 180 i cant wait yessss)