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I don't know who this ramen guy is, but I popped the chomanga link into both Google's and Bing's translators.

 

Both translations do say that, yes, Sakura is #1 hated character by both Japanese men and women between ages 10-20. And yes, there are some that agree, while others complain about the results in the comment section below. But overall, this does, in fact, look like a real thing, so I would say this ramen person isn't as correct as you believe.

 

What's interesting is that guys love Hinata and the girls love Naruto, but in the hate catagory, they're both number 2 opposite genders. And even more interesting is that Sasuke is number four for the women beloved, but ALSO number five for hated as well.

Again you like to believe that Hinata is more loved than Sasuke and Kakashi in Japan, do you even see how much they advertise Sasuke in Japan? That poll makes no type of sense 

 

Let's see if it makes sense

Well tell me if you still think they're basically tied

Japanese fans

821 名無しさんそうだ選挙に行こう2014/12/14(日) 07:16:43.50 ID:sX9jSRUz

ヒナタの人気はアニ影様がいろいろとやらかしてくれるからだろうと思うが

 

I believe Hinata's popularity is coming from the SP

 

823 名無しさんそうだ選挙に行こう2014/12/14(日) 07:20:06.27 ID:sX9jSRUz

祝福とかできるわけない

すでに見るのも辛くなってきたっていうのに

シカマルとアスマのように死者に報いようとする姿勢すらないじゃないか

 

There is no way I can celebrate this

I'm already having a hard time watching this

They don't even have the will to repay for Neji's death like Shikamaru had for Asuma

 

824 名無しさんそうだ選挙に行こう2014/12/14(日) 07:22:50.41 ID:R/Nv/HVR

庇って死んだネジのために日向を変えるという意志さえも感じられないのがな

マフラー編むと日向が変わるのならいいが

 

They don't have the will to change the Hyuuga for Neji who died and protect them

It's okay if the Hyuuga is going to change by knitting scarves

 

827 名無しさんそうだ選挙に行こう2014/12/14(日) 07:51:18.34 ID:MvHwk6wN

俺の中のNARUTOは1部で終わった

 

For me Naruto ended at part one.

 

828 名無しさんそうだ選挙に行こう2014/12/14(日) 07:52:59.98 ID:o0Rqj73n

戦犯岸本

自分は最後の数年で済んだけど15年間振り回された読者のみんなにはお疲れ様と言いたい

漫画の中でどれほどそれっぽいテーマを描こうがこの作者の適当さでは何の重みも感じられない

 

War criminal Kishimoto

I've only had few years but I'd like to say "take a well rest" to people who have been pushed around by Kishimoto for 15 years

No matter what kind of theme he wanted to express, his laziness prevent it from the message having any weight

 

832 名無しさんそうだ選挙に行こう2014/12/14(日) 08:18:45.60 ID:qBT4q3sF

グッズの売れ行きとかで誰が人気かわかるんじゃないのヒナタ本当に人気ならなんで番宣だけ七班出しまくるんだよ全部が矛盾してるわ

アニスタの声だけ聞いてヒロイン変更しましたと素直に言えよ

 

Don't they know the popularity by looking at the merchandise? If Hinata was really popular why do they do advertisement with only team seven. He should just say that he changed the heroine to Hinata only listening to the voice of the anime studio.

 

833 名無しさんそうだ選挙に行こう2014/12/14(日) 08:21:18.30 ID:fpudA+RR

何から何まで声がでかいキャラ信者に都合のいい環境だったわけか

道理で二次創作のようなのが出来上がるわけだ

映画を発端に次々とボロが出てくるな

 

So everything was a good environment for the character that had the loudest fandom

No wonder the story is so much like fanfiction

Starting with the film the garbash just keeps coming out

 

834 名無しさんそうだ選挙に行こう2014/12/14(日) 08:24:32.43 ID:LlVqgUPB

アニスタのせいだって正直に言えばいいのに

ヒナタ信者腹が立つ

声だけはでかいクソだわ

 

He should just honestly say it was the anime studio's voice

So annoyed with Hinatards

They're kittens with only a loud voice

 

839 名無しさんそうだ選挙に行こう2014/12/14(日) 09:53:41.74 ID:LlVqgUPB

ヒナタという原作をぶち壊すためだけに生まれたキャラ

 

Hinata a character that was born to destroy canon

 

841 名無しさんそうだ選挙に行こう2014/12/14(日) 10:01:48.08 ID:sX9jSRUz

サクラ信者の声が伝わらなかったのは不動のヒロインだから言う必要が無かったからだってばぞ(´ω)

 

The reason why the voice of Sakutards didn't reach was because she was the unshakeable heroine and there was no need to say it

 

843 名無しさんそうだ選挙に行こう2014/12/14(日) 10:04:15.53 ID:ZNHhPyNB

大人気のヒナタを宣伝に使わないの不思議だね

ヒロイン映画なのにさ

 

It's a mystery why they did not use the very popular Hinata for commercial....

When she's the movie heroine

 

844 名無しさんそうだ選挙に行こう2014/12/14(日) 10:05:36.75 ID:rruKVaw4

位が人気無いから大人気の11位をヒロインにちょっと何言ってるのかわかりません

 

The sixth popular character did not become popular so I made the eleventh popular character the heroine....I don't think I understand what he is saying

 

845 名無しさんそうだ選挙に行こう2014/12/14(日) 10:11:22.51 ID:sX9jSRUz

大人気の11位のために位の何故か人気キャラを殺しました(笑)・・・意味がわかりません

 

I killed the 7th popular character for the 11th popular character lol......I do not understand what he is saying

847 ：名無しさん＠そうだ選挙に行こう：2014/12/14(日) 10:15:18.75 ID:rruKVaw4

作者は数が数えられないのか… 

 

The author cannot count numbers......

 

848 ：名無しさん＠そうだ選挙に行こう：2014/12/14(日) 10:16:28.83 ID:9m3S3srr

ヒナタはどこで大人気なんだ 

 

Where is Hinata popular

 

849 ：名無しさん＠そうだ選挙に行こう：2014/12/14(日) 10:17:50.86 ID:rruKVaw4

>>848 

アニメスタッフには大人気の模様 

 

Seems to be popular among anime studio

 

852 ：名無しさん＠そうだ選挙に行こう：2014/12/14(日) 10:19:12.54 ID:Mu99wLyK

やっぱり岸本は頭がおかしい 

ヒナタが人気ないことなんてあのグッズ省きっぷりや映画の予告詐欺見れぱ一目瞭然なのに 

どこをどうしたらヒナタばかり人気が上がる（笑）なんて幻覚が見えるんだ 

後、pixivのNARUTO女キャラで一番イラストが多いのもキャラグッズがでているのもサクラなんですが岸影さん目と頭大丈夫？ 

 

Kishi is retarded

If they see how much Hinata merchandise they took away and the trailer of the movie it's obvious how unpopular she is

How does he see a hallucination that Hinata is popular 

Also, if he sees pixie and the merchandise the one with the most popularity is Sakura

Is Kishi's eyes and brain alright?

 

853 ：名無しさん＠そうだ選挙に行こう：2014/12/14(日) 10:21:07.71 ID:ZNHhPyNB

人気基準で決めるなら映画もナルトサスケカカシでやることになるね 

 

If they are deciding by popularity the movie should have featured Naruto a Sasuke Kakashi

 

854 ：名無しさん＠そうだ選挙に行こう：2014/12/14(日) 10:32:59.06 ID:aQFx6SGv

この映画も七班の絆書いてアクションさせるだけで楽々稼げたはずなんだよな 

どういうわけかこんな事になったが 

 

This movie could have made a lot of money with just team seven action

How did it come like this

http://meganezaru.tu...shimoneys#notes

Edited by TheMagicConch, 12 April 2015 - 05:25 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Female hates Hinata in place 2. Good.

If anything I learned from other polls, women ruled the poll. And male with women, if they are little miss perfect, easy win.

Which really makes me wonder how Touka-chan won?

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 12 April 2015 - 05:10 PM.

[Tiller]

Why do the male readers love Tenten...?

i liked Tenten cause she is the only one who actually wants to be a ninja in a Goddamn ninja story.

[Hanabi]

I would have been completely fine without Narusaku. Even now I still debate on whether they should have actually gotten together or not, specifically because of Sakura's viewpoint and her undeniable attachment to Sasuke.  

 

But for me, there was no grey area anymore. Especially once Kishimoto began to talk. That's when things really went downhill gradually.   

 

It's not just that Narusaku didn't get canon, and that's what a lot of people don't understand. It's that Sakura's importance was erased, A side character became a main character at the end of the series, the finale was rushed, a movie that didn't tie with canon at all was supposed to "end" the story, all underdeveloped couples became canon, the rudeness of his assistants, and kishimoto admitting that he barely wrote his own story. Not to mention that he's letting other people write his so called "canon" now, as we speak. 

 

So that's why I can't be a "moderate" fan anymore. I feel like we were all fooled by a guy and a company that executed a "legendary" story so horribly. 

you know this is how i feel, too.

 

look at ichigo100 mangaka, explaining his ending in a serious tone and treating his characters with basic respect

spoiler for end pairings

and look at kishi

 

"i set minakushi as bait(laugh)"

"i was told sakura is terrible, by a child fan. the situation didn't improve when i tried, so i gave her up(laugh)"

"i was told hinata is popular(laugh)"

"i just followed studio's pierrot direction for the ending movie(laugh)"

 

Edited by Hanabi, 12 April 2015 - 06:25 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I just noticed the target audience...

You know, seeing TenTen there only tells me nobody think of story. Just the design and at times, their concept, but not execution.

[HuskyLover]

I just noticed the target audience...
You know, seeing TenTen there only tells me nobody think of story. Just the design and at times, their concept, but not execution.

Yeah, that's why I saying they probably voted her on appearance preferences rather than actual character.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yeah, that's why I saying they probably voted her on appearance preferences rather than actual character.

Which is sad because she was one of the unique characters. Yet Kishi can't write good.

[rocci]

@hanabi
The mangaka is a she.

[Pix]

you know this is how i feel, too.

 

look at ichigo100 mangaka, explaining his ending in a serious tone and treating his characters with basic respect

spoiler for end pairings

and look at kishi

 

"i set minakushi as bait(laugh)"

"i was told sakura is terrible, by a child fan. the situation didn't improve when i tried, so i gave her up(laugh)"

"i was told hinata is popular(laugh)"

"i just followed studio's pierrot direction for the ending movie(laugh)"

 

I just imagined him laughing like Mickey Mouse from South Park. That would be the accurate evil laugh for him.

[Pix]

Kishimoto is often full of kitten but it doesn't change the fact Sakura isn't very popular in Japan. She didn't make top 10 in popularity polls twice and barely made it a couple other times, scoring 9th or 10th. For a main character it's pretty terrible.

 

Recently there was also a poll published in Animage, Japan's first mainstream anime magazine (that's where Miyazaki's masterpiece Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind was published) that asked male and female Naruto readers which characters they liked and hated the most. Sakura topped the most hated polls for men and women alike.

Completely agree. I just wanted to emphasis that Kishimoto really is full of kitten. It was my personal failure of ignoring all of Sakura's issues just because I believed in her as the heroine. In the end, she was and still is a sh*tty character. I just wanted to cheer for her so badly, you know? I really thought she was changing all this time. 

 

Lol maybe that too was nothing but a red herring.

[Awes9]

Ever since I discovered this site late last year, I've been noticing... a lot of people have been knocking back the Haterade since the ending came out and things did not end with Naruto and Sakura getting together. Bakamoto this, "Hope SP burns" that, "Naruto is a scumbag," kittening Hinata, quitting Naruto FOREVER, and on and on and on.

 

Understood already, I get that. However, I want to hear more from the NaruSaku moderates, the folks that might have been disappointed things didn't end NaruSaku, but they're cool about it, or even happy it didn't end NaruSaku due to certain things that they wanted addressed first before that Ship came in. So, are there any folks on here that would self-identify as a Moderate Shipper? I want to know what they feel, are they keeping up with the spin-offs, tracking the interviews, etc.? Because I really want to have some discussions about some things, but obviously I'm a bit hestitant with the tone of the current postings here.

But Naruto is garbage with or without the ending, the 250 chapters before the ending were atrocious and a shining example of bad writing, the characters are unrelatable and dumb, the themes...well I don't know what the themes are they keep changing for the worst, put NaruSaku at the end and even toughit would make more sense than what we got Naruto would still be trash, logic and common sense have long left this manga.

I'm keeping up with the itws and spin off even tough I won't read them I'm just curious about their strategy to keep milking the Naruto franchise and so far I would say they are quite incompetent I can't believe these people are supposed to be professional but at the same time I would say they are a good reflection of the state of the Naruto manga so it explains a lot when the people behind the Naruto franchise are so stupid.

Edited by Awes9, 13 April 2015 - 12:23 AM.

[rocci]

But Naruto is garbage with or without the ending, the 250 chapters before the ending were atrocious and a shining example of bad writing, the characters are unrelatable and dumb, the themes...well I don't know what the themes are they keep changing for the worst, put NaruSaku at the end and even toughit would make more sense than what we got Naruto would still be trash, logic and common sense have long left this manga.
I'm keeping up with the itws and spin off even tough I won't read them I'm just curious about their strategy to keep milking the Naruto franchise and so far I would say they are quite incompetent I can't believe these people are supposed to be professional but at the same time I would say they are a good reflection of the state of the Naruto manga so it explains a lot when the people behind the Naruto franchise are so stupid.

NS happen only make it good and right the romance aspect, but it will not save the story.

[Dario]

Completely agree. I just wanted to emphasis that Kishimoto really is full of kitten. It was my personal failure of ignoring all of Sakura's issues just because I believed in her as the heroine. In the end, she was and still is a sh*tty character. I just wanted to cheer for her so badly, you know? I really thought she was changing all this time. 

 

Lol maybe that too was nothing but a red herring.

l was like that too tbf. For a long time l kept believing it was all a plan to make her change and make her final development all the more memorable, but roughly at the time of the Kage summit l had to admit this was it for her, there was no saving her character anymore.

 

lt's such a shame too because she was on the right tracks at the start of part 2 but then it all "undevelopped",she slowly went back to everything people hated about her in part 1. Then Kishimoto could draw all the scenes of her punching the ground really hard or looking like a model on volume covers the damage was done.

[Pix]

l was like that too tbf. For a long time l kept believing it was all a plan to make her change and make her final development all the more memorable, but roughly at the time of the Kage summit l had to admit this was it for her, there was no saving her character anymore.

 

lt's such a shame too because she was on the right tracks at the start of part 2 but then it all "undevelopped",she slowly went back to everything people hated about her in part 1. Then Kishimoto could draw all the scenes of her punching the ground really hard or looking like a model on volume covers the damage was done.

I'd say that all of the female characters suffered from underdeveloped writing, but get this: 

 

At least Sakura had some screen time. One moment she's brave, another moment (whenever Sasuke is involved) she's weak. But unlike Sakura, Hinata barely showed up in the entirety of the manga. It was only at the very end of the series where she began to receive just as much screentime as Sakura. And then- out of the blue- she steals Sakura's role as heroine. 

 

So I guess I really cheered for Sakura because she was the only heroine I could put faith in, but apparently I was wrong.

[goldenarms]

Again you like to believe that Hinata is more loved than Sasuke and Kakashi in Japan, do you even see how much they advertise Sasuke in Japan? That poll makes no type of sense 

 

Let's see if it makes sense

 

I'm not believing anything; I'm just pointing out that the poll itself may be more legitimate that originally thought. I would have to hunt down the original issue first to see for certain if that is how they voted -- I think it's dated January 2015--  and whether or not there are more polls involved -- it did say that was the poll response from the 10-20 year old crowd; I'd imagine there are older Naruto fans that have been there since day one, and a good polling would want to gather their thoughts as well, right?

Edited by goldenarms, 13 April 2015 - 05:42 AM.

[Nar123]

 

I'm not believing anything; I'm just pointing out that the poll itself may be more legitimate that originally thought. I would have to hunt down the original issue first to see for certain if that is how they voted -- I think it's dated January 2015--  and whether or not there are more polls involved -- it did say that was the poll response from the 10-20 year old crowd; I'd imagine there are older Naruto fans that have been there since day one, and a good polling would want to gather their thoughts as well, right?

 

It's quite irrelevant

 

A popularity poll shouldn't dictate how a story turns out

Anyway if Kishi had been doing his work right then I assure that the MC's of the storyline would be on top 5 always.

Edited by Nar123, 13 April 2015 - 02:39 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I would love someone in there to ask why you hate Sakura. I just want to know some of the opinion from their mouth for once. It was vague from Kishi, so what is it.

[Change]

 

I'm not believing anything; I'm just pointing out that the poll itself may be more legitimate that originally thought. I would have to hunt down the original issue first to see for certain if that is how they voted -- I think it's dated January 2015--  and whether or not there are more polls involved -- it did say that was the poll response from the 10-20 year old crowd; I'd imagine there are older Naruto fans that have been there since day one, and a good polling would want to gather their thoughts as well, right?

Well what those two websites say when translated is true to what the post says, but good luck finding the poll because it seems like it doesn't exist( I tried looking for it on the website and I can't find it)

I would assume that yes it's best to poll everybody regardless of age 

 

It's quite irrelevant

 

A popularity poll shouldn't dictate how a story turns out

Anyway if Kishi had been doing his work right then I assure that the MC's of the storyline would be on top 5 always.

True 

[ThroughWithLove]

I supported NaruSaku because that was the logical progression of the story. Sorry, had nothing to do with "shipping." If the logical progression of the story were NaruHIna/SasuSaku, I would just as easily have supported those.

 

By the way, I can go on for pages why I don't like the ending (or the Last) without once referencing romance.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I supported NaruSaku because that was the logical progression of the story. Sorry, had nothing to do with "shipping." If the logical progression of the story were NaruHIna/SasuSaku, I would just as easily have supported those.
 
By the way, I can go on for pages why I don't like the ending (or the Last) without once referencing romance.

Exactly.