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[redrose3443]

Yeah, true, but I still say that both Sakura and Sasuke are the most guilty out of everybody. So that's why they're mostly brought up. But I wanted to focus on Sakura, since people continue to forgive her so easily.  

 

It's like, if you see a guy who's constantly running away from his problems for years why would you even pro create with him? Even if Sasuke runs away it takes two to tangle. But yeah, Sasuke is by far way worse than Sakura for not seeing Sarada for 12 years. 

 

And I just can't make an excuse for Sakura covering up Karin's photo. Even if she did get that photo from Karin, why did she have to cover Karin up? Why couldn't she just cover up the other two? Or cut Karin's picture and give it its own stand? Nobody in the village really knows who Team Taka is, so showing her the picture wouldn't have raised questions. I mean, she would have found out about the Uchiha problems eventually anyway, considering she's one herself. 

Wait, who is letting Sakura off easily? Everyday I come onto this site I see at least two post talking about how horrible her character has become and how awful she acts.

 

I'm just saying how could Sakura explain to her young daughter, that for a long time Sasuke was a criminal? Especially, because Sakura still doesn't even know the full story of what happened to the Uchihas and why Sasuke did what he did. But you're right that Sakura should have never got involved with him, however Sasuke shouldn't have done the same either. Both knew the other couldn't give them what they wanted, but still brought a child into the world, so they're both at fault.

[Nar123]

Wait, who is letting Sakura off easily? Everyday I come onto this site I see at least two post talking about how horrible her character has become and how awful she acts.

 

I'm just saying how could Sakura explain to her young daughter, that for a long time Sasuke was a criminal? Especially, because Sakura still doesn't even know the full story of what happened to the Uchihas and why Sasuke did what he did. But you're right that Sakura should have never got involved with him, however Sasuke shouldn't have done the same either. Both knew the other couldn't give them what they wanted, but still brought a child into the world, so they're both at fault.

 

Considering this is the Naruto world, this is the same as saying Sasuke is apt to qualify for a nobel peace prize 

[sushi.]

I understand why ppl have a problem with blaming the author, because then you kind of dismiss criticizing the characters and you shouldn't use the author's fault to shield them.

 

The reason I'm doing it now is because not only Sakura, but basically all the characters and the story as a whole were butchered. She's so kittening pathetic, but she's not alone in that. She's just a small part of it, and singling her out would be unfair. If someone says they hate Sakura, I wouldn't tell them to hate Naruto too ofc, I'd think "I don't blame you..". The only way I could defend her now is if ppl say she was always like this. But look, the blame is all on Kishi to me.

 

He's so weird. In the span of one year he decided to make Konoha a nextgen sexfest to spew more money out of his dead horse and he writes Sakura like this just to complain why they don't like her.

[AHK]

This raises a highly good point, which is justified by the fact that Sakura never told Sarada about Karin, and how she's setting a bad example by justifying Sasuke's actions. We've already seen how Sarada also forgave Sasuke so quickly.

Not only that, but the fact that she lashed out as soon as Salad legitimately questioned the status of her relationship with Sasuke in a way that almost killed Salad, and was purely for the purpose of scaring Salad into not talking.

[rocci]

Sakura is a character, so she should be threat as character not person.

[Nar123]

Shame this is what happened

 

About Sasuke

Saku: I know I can't save you, but if I still have a shot with you, then pls don't let that shot slip further away!
Karin: I may or may not be over him but more importantly, I just want him to be happy! As long as he is happy, that's all I care about!

[TheFirstEvil100]

I think we also need to blame Naruto a lot as well I mean as a person this kitten head used Sakura as nothing more than a pissing contest with Sasuke I mean what the kitten, what human does that to another person use them to one up your rival so in that regard Naruto is one of the worst humans I have ever meet and spits on his own parents grave, hell he has become a ass of a dad as well.

 

Sakura oh poor Sakura what can I say that has not been said I will love who she used to before the ending came around, but she gives woman a bad name, its like she says to all woman who are being abused that your not meant to move on as your first love is meant to be your only love. And that is just sad and a bad sign to all woman that have been abused in real life.

 

Sasuke well nothing is needed to be said on him he is Kishi's pet so he will do no harm to him. But we all know what he is like,

[AHK]

I think we also need to blame Naruto a lot as well I mean as a person this kitten head used Sakura as nothing more than a pissing contest with Sasuke I mean what the kitten, what human does that to another person use them to one up your rival so in that regard Naruto is one of the worst humans I have ever meet and spits on his own parents grave, hell he has become a ass of a dad as well.
 
Sakura oh poor Sakura what can I say that has not been said I will love who she used to before the ending came around, but she gives woman a bad name, its like she says to all woman who are being abused that your not meant to move on as your first love is meant to be your only love. And that is just sad and a bad sign to all woman that have been abused in real life.
 
Sasuke well nothing is needed to be said on him he is Kishi's pet so he will do no harm to him. But we all know what he is like,

In regards to the first paragraph, why does Naruto garner any blame for the person Sakura has turned out to be? And also, did you forget Sakura did the exact same thing as Naruto? Sakura used Sasuke for her pissing contest with Ino, yet routinely gets no flak for that. There are only two differences between Naruto and Sakura when it comes to that. The first is that there was an exorbitant amount of evidence that Sakura's only reason for pining after Sasuke was to beat Ino, while there was no evidence to suggest that about Naruto. The second difference between her and Naruto is that Sakura succeeded whereas Naruto failed.

[Nar123]

In regards to the first paragraph, why does Naruto garner any blame for the person Sakura has turned out to be? And also, did you forget Sakura did the exact same thing as Naruto? Sakura used Sasuke for her pissing contest with Ino, yet routinely gets no flak for that. There are only two differences between Naruto and Sakura when it comes to that. The first is that there was an exorbitant amount of evidence that Sakura's only reason for pining after Sasuke was to beat Ino, while there was no evidence to suggest that about Naruto. The second difference between her and Naruto is that Sakura succeeded whereas Naruto failed.

 

Thanks to the last, Naruto is also to blame for this whole situation due to his scumbagness

 

I'm sorry AHK but in your statements you seem like you're trying to defend Naruto 

 

no, both of them turned out kitten,  Sakura and Naruto

Sasuke too for that matter

Edited by Nar123, 02 July 2015 - 11:01 PM.

[AHK]

Thanks to the last, Naruto is also to blame for this whole situation due to his scumbagness
 
I'm sorry AHK but in your statements you seem like you're trying to defend Naruto 
 
no, both of them turned out kitten,  Sakura and Naruto
Sasuke too for that matter

No, I'm not defending Naruto in the slightest. But seriously? We're going to go so far as to start blaming Naruto for Sakura's faults? Ridiculous. Naruto is only to blame for the way he turned out. Sakura turned into a terrible person via her own actions.

[BlackBird19]

It's true all the characters turned out terrible, but to be honest both Naruto and Sakura turned out to be equally terrible. If this manga had been shounen-ai or yaoi then Naruto would be right where Sakura is now. He was just as obsessed and just as forgiving of Sasuke as Sakura was and still is.

 

That's why I place the blame on Kishi. His bias towards Sasuke is what ruined those characters and any other character that Kishi had interact with him. Sasuke's character is what ruined this and the person who is at fault for that is Kishimoto. So no, I don't hate Sakura. I just don't like Kishi!

[Raito]

Yes, I dislike her character this isn't new, I've always disliked her character. She's an incompetent and indecisive character that was hard to like, only reason I started respecting her was because of Naruto. She has become a joke in this new series, not just her though Naruto makes me cringe and Sasuke is always the same scumbag that he's been. 

 

The ending is still difficult to comprehended. 

[TheFirstEvil100]

In regards to the first paragraph, why does Naruto garner any blame for the person Sakura has turned out to be? And also, did you forget Sakura did the exact same thing as Naruto? Sakura used Sasuke for her pissing contest with Ino, yet routinely gets no flak for that. There are only two differences between Naruto and Sakura when it comes to that. The first is that there was an exorbitant amount of evidence that Sakura's only reason for pining after Sasuke was to beat Ino, while there was no evidence to suggest that about Naruto. The second difference between her and Naruto is that Sakura succeeded whereas Naruto failed.

Well as many has said both are bad as the other true Sakura did the same but Ino is also bad when you look at it she only picked Sai as he looks like Sasuke. I would go on but I'm so tried right now mainly as I've been up since 7:00 this morning, but I have to say I wish Obito had won and killed everyone now its what they all should have coming to them,

 

But let me ask you this AHK what do you think of Shino was he bad since not many talk about him?

[Broken Figurine]

It's poor writing all around. Why did Sakura cover Karin's photo? Because he had to maintain the red herring. Why did Sakura avoid questions to Sarada? To maintain the red herring. Why did no one know the circumstances around Sarada's birth aside from Karin at the end? Because red herring. Why do these 'great friends' Sakura and Karin not maintain contact so that Sarada would KNOW who that lady with the glasses like hers are? Red Herring. 

 

It's the stupid plot handled poorly that requires the characters to act unreasonably to maintain the drama and suspense. Sasuke and Sakura are just terribly written and nothing fits well together. The conclusion did not satisfy or provide any justification for what the characters did throughout the story. It was all just a wacky misunderstanding!

 

It is difficult to like any character when their feelings and circumstances are arbitrary. 

[Pix]

I see a lot of "well if Sakura is bad then __ is too" but isn't that avoiding the question? Point being is that Sakura's actions should not be blamed on anyone else. At this point of time she is a grown woman with grown responsibilities and just because other characters messed up too doesn't mean she shouldn't get critiqued. 

[Raito]

But Naruto is to blame as well~ 

When she asked him to stop pursing Sasuke, the dude should have listened because by now he would've been married to Sakura. What an idiotic delusional kid he was, serves him right losing the girl he loved to that scumbag.  

[Legend054]

I hated post-war Sakura especially the one from Naruto gaiden. She was childish and fangirled over Sasuke all the way to the end. I know it's all Kishi's fault to ruin Sakura's character. But if I have to blame a character for the ending, it would be Sakura. She was a fangirl until the very end even after she got Sasuke's dck as an apology. She never grew up, no wonder Naruto got over her. 

[AHK]

But Naruto is to blame as well~ 
When she asked him to stop pursing Sasuke, the dude should have listened because by now he would've been married to Sakura. What an idiotic delusional kid he was, serves him right losing the girl he loved to that scumbag.

Once again, how is Naruto to blame for Sakura's personality deficiencies? The thread isn't about Naruto. It isn't about "let's all come up with things to throw at Naruto and make it seem like its his fault".

Blaming Naruto for the type of person Sakura turned out to be is like blaming Naruto for the death of his parents.

[redrose3443]

I hated post-war Sakura especially the one from Naruto gaiden. She was childish and fangirled over Sasuke all the way to the end. I know it's all Kishi's fault to ruin Sakura's character. But if I have to blame a character for the ending, it would be Sakura. She was a fangirl until the very end even after she got Sasuke's dck as an apology. She never grew up, no wonder Naruto got over her. 

Apparently, Naruto didn't get over Sakura, but it was revealed that he only liked her due to his rivalry with Sasuke.

 

Also, it's Sakura's fault that the ending turned out this way? No, it's the people who run the Naruto franchise's fault. Sakura was forced to forever stay with a guy that doesn't even care enough to stay with her, even when they have a kid. Sakura is freaking miserable, because Kishimoto chose money over his story, it is not her fault at all.

 

 

I see a lot of "well if Sakura is bad then __ is too" but isn't that avoiding the question? Point being is that Sakura's actions should not be blamed on anyone else. At this point of time she is a grown woman with grown responsibilities and just because other characters messed up too doesn't mean she shouldn't get critiqued. 

 Sakura's actions, in the Gaiden was already explained by @Broken Figurine Sakura did what she did, because Kishimoto needed to write it that way for false leads. We all know that Sakura's character has gone to $hit. We all know that practically all the characters have gone to $hit. And we definitely know that this series has gone to $hit.

 

We already did this at the end of the original series, we all knew Sakura was ruined, but some chose to ignore how $hitty canon turned out and others just decided to no longer like the character. Yes this Gaiden has made Sakura look bad, but it was to be expected with the fact that she was forced to remain with a guy, who she should have never been with. I get that the whole" blame the author not the character" thing is not for everyone, I'm just tired of everybody focusing in on Sakura, like she's the only one who messed up. Or like she's the only character to become awful, is all.

[Raito]

Once again, how is Naruto to blame for Sakura's personality deficiencies? The thread isn't about Naruto. It isn't about "let's all come up with things to throw at Naruto and make it seem like its his fault".

Blaming Naruto for the type of person Sakura turned out to be is like blaming Naruto for the death of his parents.

He isn't one to entirely blame but he plays a big role in convincing Sakura that Sasuke could be saved and that he would bring him back for her. All he did was encourage her to keep having faith in the old Sasuke, when in actuality Sasuke was beyond saving and is shady till this day. After all of that, he still failed to go and confess his feelings. 

 

I don't blame him for how she turned out, that's her fault. I'm upset that he never confessed to her.