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#972509 Boruto: The NeverEnding Prologue Chapter 34

Posted by Bail o' Lies on 20 April 2019 - 03:55 AM

That is not a very high bar to raise though. Personal thoughts?

This was the best chapter of the manga so far. Since this is the one I felt the most stuff has happen in. This is one of the three or so chapter I feel it does not need to be redone because it has wasted half the pages. If the pacing of the manga was around this level Boruto would have much less problems. The anime has reached its hundredth episode recently, and like people have discussed on this site; its supporters are getting bored with the anime. Why? Simple, because the plot has been stuck in filler for its entire run because it can't cover anything the manga has done yet without quickly overtaking it because it pacing is that slow.


As for the manga itself this chapter did help make clear that it is basically embodied by this image:


It two to three old men trying to appeal to younger kids to what they think kids would like, but not adding in any sense of self. Normally, when I read a manga I get the sense that the artist is designing stuff off what they would like. Here, it feels all vary safe or it base off what someone other than the artist would like. Which for the villain designs could simply mean Kishimoto is using this manga as a test bed for his cyborg, and Ikemoto isn't really interested in cyborg. Then again we already seen what Ikemoto likes with his redesign of Salad. Beyond that the villains come off as try hard edgy to me instead of any sense of menace because they are constantly trying to hype up how dangerous kara is, and what they done so far isn't that impressive. Then their also the fact that the boys bonding stuff is card collecting. Now I haven't been around kids that often recently certainly not in Japan, but when was  the last time card collecting was the hot kitten? That was something popular when my dad was a kid. The last time it was a thing was when yu gi oh was super popular. Also again that is to try and market the actual real life cards; which again doesn't come from passion but a demand from marketing.


Also again the art at best is hit and miss.

#972456 Boruto: Naruto Next Generation Anime Discusion

Posted by Bail o' Lies on 16 April 2019 - 02:24 AM

Even with Karin new design. You put her, Sakura, and Sasuke's picture next to a image of Salad go to some random person and ask, "who are the parents?" Everyone is going to point to Karin and Sasuke. Honestly, they look even more alike now due to Karin's redesign then they did before; just a change of hair and eye color.


Honestly, if you showed them the four, and ask them if they see any similarities between Salad & Sakura. They would probably just think Salad was Sakura's student since all that's similar between them is clothing, sometimes personality depend on who writing her as well as what the situation is, and somewhat fighting style...I assuming that but even from the manga they seem to be going for Uchiha with super strength even though Sasuke hasn't been hinted at training her.


This again is SP trying to address an issue in the story and instead through their blatant writing just brings the problem to the forefront instead of resolving it.


Also remember, Kishimoto already did a ten chapter manga on this topic years ago. They adapted that story immediately after they were done with their first arc in the anime. They are retreading old ground with this, and showing that those criticisms are bothering them. 

#972422 Naruto: Alternative The Last (Doujinshi)

Posted by Bail o' Lies on 15 April 2019 - 04:40 AM

I think Karin is the only person tied to the main pairings that did not get more "haters" after the ending.

#972328 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by Bail o' Lies on 10 April 2019 - 03:24 AM

Would you guys argue that Part II in terms of the anime (Shippuden) did more for it's characters up to Pain Arc than Kishi did in the manga?

The gag manga explored more of the cast then the manga did. The manga doesn't really focus on anyone other then team seven (and the arc relevant side characters) and look how they turned out. He couldn't even do a decent story for FOUR characters!

I don't know why those sites are into NH in the first place. 

They identify with either Naruto or Hinata, they project themselves into them, and used them for their weird entitled fantasies.

#972293 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by Bail o' Lies on 09 April 2019 - 04:16 AM

You know, there's a little something I noticed among the major sites that address the shipping (Screen Rant, IGN, ANN). While many of these places support NH and claim NS was not going to happen under any circumstance, most of them do not support SS.


The main thing many of these sites say regarding Naruto's "changing" feelings and why NH was the correct choice was because Sakura was never going to get over Sasuke. Okay. But then when talking about SS, they complain about how it is toxic and doesn't make sense. Some will even outright say Sakura should have gotten with Lee.


Like, what? So, you're arguing Naruto goes with Hinata instead of Sakura because the later wouldn't change her feelings. Okay, fair enough. But when you're disappointed Sakura DOES indeed stick with Sasuke, that argument holds no water. Naruto got with Hinata BECAUSE Sakura got with Sasuke. If she fell out of love with Sasuke, Naruto would have definitely pursued her. Why else do you think he called her his girlfriend in front of Minato? 


Now, in theory, you COULD make a story where Sakura falls out of love with Sasuke but doesn't return Naruto's feelings either. But now that has to be addressed. You have to answer "WELL WHY NOT" to NS. YOU REALLY HAVE TO MAKE SAKURA explain it now. Just because she no longer loves Sasuke doesn't mean she has to love Naruto that way (a perfectly reasonable thing to say). Maybe she realized she's gay for women. Maybe she and Lee were spending time together during the timeskip that eventually blossomed into love. SOMETHING.
You also can't rightfully criticize Sakura for staying her fan girl self when that was necessary to make the "prize" ship happen. I'm sorry, but that was the only way NH could ever happen. It could have done well with this, provided Sasuke and Sakura's relationship wasn't as toxic as it is in canon, and if Naruto spent SOME time with Hinata. But it doesn't. We know WHY it happened; it just happened in the laziest and most insulting way possible. You can clearly see the SS family is dysfunctional, and the way Kishimoto wrote this portion of the story, he implies Naruto only married Hinata in an attempt to fill the void left by Team 7.


Sorry Pro-Enders. But there is no way out of this. The only way to have NH IS for SS to exist. If anything, SS is the more important of the two ships, because it's pathos is not directly linked to NH, but NH relies on SS being a thing to make the relationship even possible.

Remember, even in the Last the movie that was suppose to show the glory of nH and why they are the perfect pairing that had to happen. The person that was pushing them together was Sakura. The reason she was helping nH get together because she was 'with' Sasuke. Without Sakura's help Hinata would have given up because she thought Naruto's scarf was from another woman he was with.


If you've seen any amount of Boruto it is made abundantly clear that none of team seven just hangs out like the other teams may do, they have no close relationship, and would only meet under professional circumstances...When the entire point of the second part was bringing them back together because they were just so close they are all basically family. Part of the reason for this is Kishimoto was bitter when setting up Boruto, but by now most of it is they are terrified of using Sakura for more then anything other then as Salad's mom.

#972249 Boruto: The NeverEnding Prologue Chapter 33

Posted by Bail o' Lies on 06 April 2019 - 11:58 PM

That works too I mean either one works as it shows how pathetic Hinata is as a character that she gets killed in such a way or she off's herself because she lost her Naruto-Kun.


I would add Sakura should outlive them all, so we have ammo to fire at them like this. "Well, at least Sakura is alive look at how your great and so-called goddess went out."

Honestly, I wouldn't mind if after Naruto dies they put Sakura as the replacement hokage instead of Konohamaru. It'd be pointless, but it would parallel her with her master as well as piss off the people that just hate her. 

#972230 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by Bail o' Lies on 06 April 2019 - 05:34 AM

I hear bolt is at episode 100 and is getting the first 13 episode on DVD on the 9th in the United States.

I think it hit 100 last Sunday didn't it? It is kind of sad how little has actually happened in that time compared to Naruto. By this point Naruto was done with the Chunn exam, as well as the hunt for Tsunade arc, hitting its peak in popularity, was on it way to the Rescue Sasuke arc, and the end of part one of the story. Episode 100 of Naruto was the Lee & Guy episode which ends with Guy telling Lee that if the surgery to fix his body fails; he would kill himself as punishment to atone. Episode 100 for Boruto is some random episodes about in the current arc which is about...Jugo's curse seal or something.


The first 100 episodes of Boruto are either slice of life fluff, or nostalgia bait. The only difference between the first fifty episodes and the last fifty is the chunin exams happened around episode fifty. So, Bolt got the important lesson that he should have been worshiping his dad all along.

#972006 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by Bail o' Lies on 26 March 2019 - 10:27 AM

the funny thing is I've seen the dub for Boruto, and Yuri as older Sasuke is still relatively decent.


Kate Higgins is pretty good whenever it's a scene revolving Sarada or if it's a scene between the two of them.  What's funny about this is whenever it's a scene involving Sasuke she's literally phoning it in.  That's something I already mentioned this when she dubbed the whole scene from 699 which is wow one of the most obvious cases of she doesn't care. 


Now I haven't heard anything about her stance on Boruto, but I can make an assumption here and say that She probably enjoys playing the role of a mother, but when it comes to romance stuff with Sasuke she doesn't care at all. 

A lot of the voice actors both in English and Japanese seem to "phone it in" whenever it involves the pairings after they were revealed. When I was recapping the first arc of Boruto Junko sounded both tired and bored the entire time, the rest of the older cast that have establish careers seemed to just be doing the voice, but the newer ones were trying its just they didn't have good material. Honestly the one that stands out most to me would probably be Nana Mizuki who in the few things I stumbled upon that she done after the Last is; that if its anything but Hinata she puts a lot of passion into it, from what I have found.


Kate Higgins has been in other stuff, like she's been in Dead or Alive as Tina for one big thing, and she also has been a voice of one of the characters in Fire Emblem. Not sure of anything else too big off the top of my head right now.



Sakura is her most common role and the one that has followed her throughout her career (which is probably true for a lot of the people that have voice an important Naruto character.) She done some Bleach characters. Sailor Mercury. Tails until the Sonic Boom recast. Some western works. Also some video game characters.

#971444 Boruto: The NeverEnding Prologue Chapter 32

Posted by Bail o' Lies on 23 February 2019 - 09:24 PM

Geez that's crazy. And these are characters with a very limited fan base. Who would want to stick around through that?

People with incredible brand loyalty.


Anyways these clowns do not know how to write a monthly manga. Boruto is a weekly manga stretched out into a monthly series, with the writing of a light novel, and suffers all the consequences of that. Here, the first ten pages (the very least) are common in what you see in a weekly battle manga; filler pages to both show off how cool the character is, but also eat up pages so the mangaka doesn't have to write for 19 pages. They are a monthly series every pages should have a purpose since the mangaka has been given a month, and the readers have another month before they can see the next chapter.

Really, I mean come on eye lasers? God this gets more stupid with each chapter.

I reach the peak stupidity of this manga with "scroll memory," everything else has just been dull incompetence ever since.


Darn. I was hoping Himawari was going to shock the world and kick her ass. She is technically a half-breed you know.

At the moment the clowns are more focused on setting up KBK to remember that as she is Hinata's daughter. So if they had remembered, Mustard's hand should have been incinerate before she could have even touch with the intent to cause harm to such perfection. In fact, there shouldn't have even been a fight to begin with. When she entered the area Mustard should have bowed her head in worship to the second most perfect thing in existence.


She got that hyuga kurama dna... oh wait it is was all just a dream 


well back to zzzzzzzzzzz.

Oh since she is Naruto's daughter don't be surprise if somehow she also inherits everyone of the tailed beasts' special abilities.

#971391 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by Bail o' Lies on 21 February 2019 - 03:46 AM

Saw it on an anti-end Facebook group and...ugh...fan-made and yet saying it's how it "actually happened" as if it were ghost written by Kishi or something.

Its honestly not that hard to write on Kishimoto's level or use a similar style.


I think most of the pro-Enders forget just how ridiculed Naruto was as a series. It was the butt of so many jokes, the go-to example of how to do X wrong in anime. It wasn't just the ending of the pairings that people take issues with, it's a lot of story decisions and questionable character motivations.

They thought it was crap too and only stayed on because they were desperate to see Hinata win. When she did, suddenly Naruto was a literary classic on the level of Shakespeares' works.

#971359 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by Bail o' Lies on 20 February 2019 - 03:31 AM

Yeah so, did they ever even address the bird seal of the hyuuga clan? Or did it just conveniently go away? 


I know it's a nice fan-ficcy thing to attach to Hinata, but I don't ever remember her making a stand about it against her father and clan history. (If it was in the anime, then I didn't see it.) And just because Naruto beat up/won over Neji, doesn't mean he won agains the bird seal. Neji wasn't from the main family, so it didn't matter what he said. But I don't think Hinata's sister Hanami had to have it, yet I don't remember it ever being talked about again after the first half of the mange. They've conveniently forgotten all about that bit of Hyuuga family cruelty as part of the legacy that Naruto married into.

There was nothing in the manga...if their was some resolution it was in the anime. As far as I went into Boruto. Hisashi is still clan head, but mainly he just the overly affectionate grandpa. The Hyuuga story-line was dropped in Boruto and replaced with they have super eyes and loving families.

#971337 Boruto: Naruto Next Generation Anime Discusion

Posted by Bail o' Lies on 19 February 2019 - 05:40 AM

So Shikamaru is now an agitator who should be executed?

He is still alive when Nail comes; so, no. The kages have a meeting to discuss nail, and Shikamaru is there to without any sense of hostility. So, politics as usual these wonderful friends all trying to kill each-other. So yes, despite trying to kill two of them he'll be forgiven instantly. Just like Orochimaru.


Boruto: Shikamaru Shinden

So apparently, in the Shikamaru Shinden light novel, Shikamaru is stressing the kitten out of, and almost tried assassinating two of the Kage during a meeting to avoid an upcoming war. He doesn’t want his kid to get dragged into another generation of kitten, and thinks he can settle things now. He might’ve been in serious trouble if he wasn’t very close personal friends with two of the other Kage that were at that meeting with all six of them when he tried to kill them.

The villages are also apparently on the verge of war, Kumo is planning to raid another nearby village and Konoha is trying to stick its neck in there to stop it since it’ll drag on to thousands of deaths. Kumo and Iwa are being a kitten about it and trying to aim for a war since they’re out of a job otherwise, and their Daimyo is telling them to go do it.


Naruto doesn’t seem so good at talking things out.


What’s even more interesting to note is that there’s an interesting pattern between the novel and the first Boruto chapter/episode. It implies Naruto’s alliance crumbled and kitten hit the fan so hard that the entirety of Konoha got reduced into nothing but ruins. 


I do not believe Kawaki could’ve reduced Konoha into ruins by himself.


I believe Konoha’s destruction was likely orchestrated by an alliance between the other nations to challenge Konoha’s hegemony, arguing Konoha is a threat because they have the most powerful Tailed Beast and is the most prestigious village (Naruto has all the Tailed Beasts in Boruto, realistically all the other villages should be plotting to sabotage Konoha), citing that they are dictating the Elemental Nations and those who disagrees will be crushed by iron fist (Naruto is the most powerful person in the world. Sasuke is the second most powerful person in the world. They both hold the keys to all the nukes in the world).


History seems to repeat itself. Nice “utopia” you got there Naruto, seems like you haven’t learned anything from Hashirama’s mistakes with what went wrong with the system. Madara was right all along. This vicious circle won’t end.


Copy paste from tumblr : http://pancakemcfluffers.tumblr.com/

Six kages? Is Sasuke counted as a kage? Please, no.


Well at least this theory is better story then Nail being the cause of everything. I honestly do hope this does in-fact happen, though at the moment I doubt it will. 


Wohoo. Naruto is incapable of keeping the peace, because he was never trained for the role of diplomat...or leader...or even just basic administration, and mainly just relies on messiah feel he gives off to get people to do what he wants; also overwhelming power to force those that don't instantly do what he wants. When that fails; this 5 Village Coalition fails with in a generation of its forming. Child of Prophecy destine to bring peace to the world, my ass. Also, this is what happens when you get to keep the super host powers but no one else does -killer bee is probably dead by the way (has been since the chunin exam)- and allow your...best friend to do anything (wet-works/assassination/etc) he wants with your full approval.


From what I read there, my theory is, Kawaki is a spy ... maybe like Kabuto / Rin, send to infiltrate Konoha to assassinate Naruto. He's probably going to succeed because we all know that Naruto is going to be dead, unless they chicken out because they realize that killing Naruto will make the entire fans that's still left supporting this kitten walk away from this abomination franchise, and decide to un-killed him.


If what this guy said is true then that looking forward to 30 volume interview thing is a lie. Because in my opinion they rushing it, unless this (possible) war is not/different than the war that happen in chapter/episode 1 of boruto.

As someone who has read the manga. Kara seems to be a separate organization that does not consider themselves ninja. Now, the other villages may be allied with them while hiding this from konoha, but at the moment that seems doubtful. Also doubtful is that Nail is a spy/infiltrator for this conspiracy. At the moment he is a vessel to receive some seal from the group to do something. Could lead to it, but at the moment it is incredibly stretching to even ponder it.

#971245 Politics discussion

Posted by Bail o' Lies on 15 February 2019 - 08:14 AM

Vic is apparently a very devout Christian, in a field of work that majority are far leftist; most who have gone completely insane since Trump won. They probably been waiting years to get rid of him, but could never find any justification for it until now.

#971180 Boruto: Naruto Next Generation Anime Discusion

Posted by Bail o' Lies on 13 February 2019 - 03:25 AM

Which was a horrible idea, not to mention stupid because I'm not sure if a) trying make Hinata ala Chi-Chi (which doesn't make sense, canonically) or b) the team and executives continued to downgrade Sakura and suddenly upgrade Hinata because of their favortism and bias.

The change is more to dismiss what Hinata was in the movie; a weak woman overwhelm with the mess that her family is, and unable to do anything about because she refuses to confront her husband. So the anime to address this made her into all mighty mom that all fear -yet her family is still a mess because she won't confront or address the issues. It still favoritism but it more she must be perfect no matter what even if we must change a core part of her character instead of she is so awesome.

#971118 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by Bail o' Lies on 09 February 2019 - 09:26 PM

Initially, the man who chose Sakura before interviewing him said that the pink-haired girls seemed more beautiful to him than the black-haired girls. The person who questioned him thought he might be able to change his mind if he saw him, Sakura and Hinata, and so on. The man (who was asked) believed that he might be able to insult Sakura, but justice always triumphs.

I wish I could give you the link to the videos but the videos language is in Arabic, so no one except me would understand it.

We could still understand their facial expression, we already understand the content to a degree from you other post.