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[pharix]

on a side note did anyone laugh at how hinata fell and wanted neji to protect him i thought you were willing to protect him hinata?

mangastream makes more sense imo: http://readms.com/r/naruto/662/2222/15

[Hiraishin]

 
in fact it's 2 weeks of waiting for the next chapter, not 2 weeks of break
 
 
Meanwhile Hashirama, about the failed plan with Sasuke
 

Lmao! Truuuu.

[Sakura Blossoms]

These posts were reported several pages back now -

Exactly hehehehe :))) . Hey good catch with the ObiRin parallel i didn't even thought of that things are getting better and better HELL YEAH.

 

NH delusion begins

 GO Hinata !!

1.
I love this chapter. I love the display of emotions! Putting some drama and story in the manga isnt really bad..
*SOme pairing hints.
*Sakura's possible screentime
*How I love Hinata when she kissed the ground. "Nissan, please......protect Naruto.."
*Is that Obito/Black Zetsu?? Then where is Minato and Kakashi??

Perfect Score of any scale ))

2.

No just no. (but possible huhu..)

Sakura has been so close to Naruto. But it'll be Sasuke still...
huhuhu. The situation just requires Sakura to heal naruto instead, because she is nowhere near Sasuke, and doesnt even know that he's in a bad situation..

Only Karin knows. Hurry up and save sasuke...

Oh brother they are.......i have no word for this     

what idiots

 

But they still hold absolute relevance to what is going on here in this thread, as people continue to bash the NH fandom and its fans. You ALL know H&E's posting rules by now. No Bashing of any kind. I know this is a kickass awesome chapter, with a huge wonderful serving of NS, but it's still a chapter thread where we're supposed to discuss what happened in the chapter. Not sit around preening, laughing, and making cruel jokes about other fandoms.

 

Stick to the chapter content.

 

This will be your only 'unofficial' warning on this.

Really it just seems that the more moments we get the more we can go without needing to argue or debate, just speculate on what's next. That's something we get to enjoy with ns being the most developed. We spend more time using the evidence for how it can occur rather than debate it with other pairings, I mean there was cause for debate before and during the time between 469 and 631 but that has been resolved. Things just go up for ns.

 

This I agree with wholeheartedly, and like that you pointed it out =3

[Inferno180]

Inferno I only hope that we won't get the same kitten as 616 happened for NH after 3 weeks of waiting

 

Naruto is wounded, dying, and slipping away, sakuras tears are building up and they may unleash soon. Sakura isnt a face on either, you can tell she is about to cry out. I really dont know how the event would be a shortcoming or something we dont assume if Sakura is there ready to cry. I mean the next chapter practically has zero chance of SS happening, little to no NH happening, its practically NS and SK if anything next chapter. I mean all im betting on next chapter is a big development from sakura in regards to naruto, some fear of him dying obviously but also a bit more depending on if they go to minato. The other part is remember, just how this all started, sakura hated naruto and called him annoying, now she is about ready to cry over him as he is dying slowly. I really dont know how it could be as big a sudden misconception as the 615 stuff with NH was. I mean really again, sakura is right there about to cry over naruto in the biggest harm he has ever had on him physically, I dont see how it will be some sudden troll moment in a dramatic event like this. Naruto and Sasuke slowly dying is much bigger than Neji going. Really its hero is down heroine is at his side to try and help, really dont know how to be alarmed thinking it will be 616 again as a huge misconception.

[tricksie]

I'm working hard to bite my tongue on this. She's generally been a hard character to take seriously, but I wrote her off entirely after the Sasuke reunion. To me she's the most poorly handled character in the entire series. There isn't a close second. Not even, "I don't know why he's there" Juugo or Danzou come close. There really isn't anything I can think of that Kishimoto that could revive her for me. So, this has zero impact on my opinion of her either way. Still, I keep saying, it's Orichumaru preventing anything, she's not folding into a groveling mess while Sasuke is laying there bleeding to death and she'll act when it's time. He's not gonna die, so I'm expecting this. So this is going to be, let's wait and see before dumping on her. And for me, it's not the tears, it's the curling up until a ball (a position of defenselessness) that comes across bad.

We also have to remember the massive amount of criticism Hinata has taken for just flying into face Pain. Just reckless charging in is not a smart move (and is definitely a desperate one). But yes....

 

You're right about her being a poorly handled character. She has a tragic storyline and could have real weight within the plot, but Kishimoto continues to use her solely for comedic relief. Even in scenes when she should be taken seriously or at least tug on the heart strings of readers, she misses the mark. (Although, again, I blame Kishimoto for that.) She's been so locked into comedic mode, despite her scarred backstory, that it's hard to take her seriously when it's required. 

 

Which is also why I don't know if this is a hint of SK to come (as Sasuke's final pairing) or if it's just a momentary thing to illustrate the parallel between Naruto/Sasuke using Sakura/momentary-love-interest-Karin. Kishimoto has made such elaborate plans for Sasuke's story that it's hard to fit Karin into that puzzle. She's girl that seems to only be interested in herself and the only side we see of her in this story, aside from wanting to get Sasuke into bed, is the petty, comedic carrying-on she does with Suigetsu. If we've seen anything from Sasuke, it's that he demands for people to dance to his tune. And Karin still doesn't fit into his carefully crafted storyline for me, other than as a noisy distraction or as means to an end. Not as a true love.

 

Meaning, even though it looks like SK on the surface, I'm still not sure I trust it. The only thing to me that seems mostly confirmed is that Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are a thing of the past. (Even though I'm still holding out hope that Sasuke will try to manipulate Sakura's childhood feelings into something to stoke Naruto's fury in the final showdown. A girl can dream....)

[harry4e]

So this is the chapter I wanted last week, well the emotional side of it, seeing Karin and Sakura's reaction, even Hinata's I'd guess Gaara is taking Naruto and Sakura to Minato because he has the other half of Kurama's power so if Minato transferred the Bijuu inside his son, Naruto should make a recovery.

 

I'm trying not to read too much into the last page but it's hard not to think of the importance of showing both Karin and Sakura's reaction at the same time, afterall you get the greatest impact when you show the reaction of the person who loves the person dieing before you close the chapter.

 

I'm taking a wild guess here but I think in the next two or three chapters both Naruto and Sasuke will not only recover but will get a major power boost, Sasuke with his current state of mind and Senju chakra will awaken the next stage of his MS, possably even the Rinnigan, afterall didn't Madara gain the Rinnigan during his battle with Hirashima?

 

Naruto on the other hand will be able to use more powerful jutsu's, i'm taking a wild stab here because of the Yin and the Yang side of Chakra, Naruto has always been the Yang, as was the half of Kurama sealed inside him, Now if the Yin chakra inside Kurama were to work with the Yang chakra inside Naruto we should in theory see more powerful Jutsu, (it's the same with Senju and Uchiha, Uchiha is Yin and Senju is Yang, or maybe it's the other way around?) Though I think it's time Naruto showed some of those supposed Uzumaki blood abilities, if you think about it from the four we've seen he's the only one who not really shown some ability, Pain with his chakra levels and ease at which he used the Rinnigan, Karin with her sensor and healing abilities, and Kushina with her Chakra chains, Naruto has shown his high chakra levels but that could be partially put down to him being a Jinchuriki, aswell as being the son of a former host, and having two Kage level parents, he would have had high Chakra levels even without being a Uzumaki.

 

Edit: Did anyone else find the colour double page poster was not quite suitable for the current chapter? Our heroes are dieing, let's show the Elsium themed front page.

Edited by harry4e, 22 January 2014 - 04:33 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I don't think it works like that regardless... maybe, but we know the 8-Tails cut off one of his tentacles before getting sucked in and then internally said "Sorry Bee" 

 

 

I don't think he learned it. I thought he would have with the thought of Itachi, since love can activate, but nope, he couldn't, so he's going to die unless someone shows up now.

Not like Sasuke would use it anyway... no way would he sacrifice one of his eyes (his brother's eyes no less) to save himself, even if it's for Itachi's sake.

Good point. I guess we'll wait.

 

Is it just me or did this chapter push for us to get some future NaruSaku and SasuKarin?

You have no idea. Lol.

 

For the record, we have nothing to worry about Hinata anymore. Again, only Naruto and Sakura (and Gaara) are in this. Hinata got tired and chakra depleted. It only shows that since she lost hers, soon everyone will follow. Case in point, as the narrator of shooter game would say, NS is "closing in to victory".

[Ausakura]

 

in fact it's 2 weeks of waiting for the next chapter, not 2 weeks of break

 

Oh, I see it now. Hehe.

 

 

 

for that better to wait the raw for friday. Usually Mangapanda is more accurate....

But seriously, leaving mistranslations aside, did anyone asked her to protect Naruto? 

 

I did found good her appearance on the chapter. It showed her concern about Naruto and that Kishimoto didn't neutralized her as character. She still exists in the plot, she still fills some hole. I don't know if it evidenced that Sakura will be always ahead to be next to Naruto than her, but her fall wasn't in vain. Just portraited how her character is. An concerned and determinated girl that always wants to be present, but somehow, don't achieve her goals for they are distant and platonic. Poor of her, I like her. And I don't know, I still don't feel safe to say that the pairing war is over. Kishimoto can really pull a trigger to bring Hinata back to the spotlights. She is becoming little by little even more relevant to the plot...

 

On a side, it was important and necessary to happen. Hinata loves Naruto and this is evidenced in many parts of the story. Naruto is on its climax, where he is dying and everyone had the chance to see this happenning. If Hinata didin't show any reaction that is like her character, it would be very strange or very careless from the writer. But in other side... Showing her tripping and praying to Neji (?) wasn't really necessary. It shows that: or her character is very pitful, or that something relevant for her is being preparated. Just like the clumsy girl who always fails and get hurt, but in the end, surprisingly gets what she wants. If Kishimoto have something or not reserved for later to complete this scene... I don't know. 

 

I just hope to see more and a lot of interaction between Sakura and Naruto. Their momment is now. I miss NS...

[sushi.]

I liked this chapter. I liked Karin, I don't think anyone should dismiss her love for Sasuke, shipper or not. The anime certainly did, they ruined her the same way SNK ruined Hange.

 

Hinata's moment was fantastic. It was very suspiscious, like Kishi wrote it to avoid NH predictions. It's evidence. Throwing her out of the way, just in case. Am I thinking too much? Was I the only one?

 

Anyways the set up really cleared a way for a NS moment. Kishi stripped all the medics of their chakra(except Sakura), introduced a new enemy, taking them somewhere alone. He did all that, just for..hmm.

She may finally be significant again. I love the way she is panicking too, we've seen Sakura heal before, but damn..dat face. She might break this 'rule' the new enemy mentioned, I hope Kishi didn't use all tricks for fodder folks off-panel. <_< As long as she has the diamond, she's still in the game. This might cause her to lose it temporarily though, like Tsunade.

 

The last page also sets up a possible parallel for SK/NS moments.

Edited by sushi., 22 January 2014 - 04:42 PM.

[harry4e]

Just read Mangastreams translation, which made a bit more sense, What the hell, Naruto is on a break next week? Now tha't just being cruel Kishi-sensie, leaving us on a cliffhanger last month before the New Years break and now another week break after showing the reaction, I guess that would explain the lackluster chapter last week.

[Derock]

God, I haven't saw Elysium yet (and I'm getting it this week on Netflix). Kishimoto, you spoil me the movie!!!

 

I'm sorry, but Hinata tripped and fell, I didn't see that one coming! And this chapter... *oh man the feels for NaruSaku!* (Don't care for SasuKarin).

 

WHY?!!! WHY consider a break right now?!!! That should have happen next week's chapter!

[TouKen4Life3g]

Got to thank Kishi for making sure that Hinata is out of the picture and can only stand and hope for the best. Much different from Naruto and Sakura being in the same place. I can tell this is going to be our year, everyone. As Iroh would say, I will say this.

 

"Today, destiny is our friend. I know it."

[tricksie]

 

No offense, but what would it take to really make you see the end of the shipping wars? I have seen harem's with more drama and still can pick out the final pairing couple from a mile away even before half the manga series was finished. So, let me ask what would make you see the end or do you feel that only the final note of Naruto and Sakura kissing the only end to it?

 

....

 

You may not agree, but this is an NS moment for me. Honestly, what do people expect after this? Sakura just turning around and saying "Oh Sasuke is dying? Well, Screw Naruto, let's go help Sasuke." Sad part is, people really are expecting this to happen.

 

I think Kishimoto is going to keep the shipping wars going till the very end. Or maybe bring it to a climax before the final fight, with both girls laying it all on the line, and the final shipping resolution coming after the fight.

 

This is fully an NS moment, and I said that in the post.... But I can't rest easy. Kishimoto's left plenty of room to muck it all up. lol. 

 

So what would do it for me in the end? Hmmm.... Yeah I think kissing would be the only thing that Kishimoto couldn't wiggle his way out of. But Naruto and Sakura are undeniably the end pairing, and I've believed that from the beginning. I remember when I first encountered Naruto, through the anime and then on Deviant art, I thought there must be some hidden history of SS. And I couldn't believe it when I read the manga and discovered there was nothing there. NOTHING!! lol. It was eye-opening what fans could pull out of thin air. Anyway, like I said, this was fully an NS moment for me, but I don't believe Kishimoto's going to let it rest. By even putting Hinata and Karin in this chapter, he's already laying the groundwork for more shipping trouble.

 

And yeah, on Hinata and Karin, totally agree. 

 

And last, I read the Cyborg quote literally at the same moment it was playing on tv (the teen titans tokyo movie is playing at my house at the moment). lol! weird!

 

@ramenanmitsu: I agree, I think it was a setup chapter as well. There's more to come. About the SK, it's been discussed here before, and there are people here for it and against it. I actually thought it was a finished pairing, but seeing Karin paralleled with Sakura in the end makes me think it's still in play.

[Ausakura]

mangastream makes more sense imo: http://readms.com/r/naruto/662/2222/15

Just hope it's a mistranslation.

This "I promised to do this" is basically an prelude to "do this".

If it's really what she said, she will protect Naruto, in a way or another. And that can be...

 

Well, do someone wonder what Sakura could do to save Naruto's life?

I don't want to see her giving her life to save him as Chiyo did with Gaara.

[Atheck]

With the Alliance currently entangled with Spiral Zetsu, who's left to try and make a stand against Madara? Sasuke is knocking at death's door and Hiruzen's presence is required just to hold the Mokuton onslaught at bay. It seems like the characters with the best chances are being picked off one at a time. Orochimaru may be next in line, what with having sustained no injuries so far and having used little chakra. 

[TouKen4Life3g]

I think Orochimaru is using the right time to hit the spiral Zetsu, but the timing could be against him.

[Ausakura]

With the Alliance currently entangled with Spiral Zetsu, who's left to try and make a stand against Madara? Sasuke is knocking at death's door and Hiruzen's presence is required just to hold the Mokuton onslaught at bay. It seems like the characters with the best chances are being picked off one at a time. Orochimaru may be next in line, what with having sustained no injuries so far and having used little chakra. 

It would be awesome to see the others taking care of the situation. It's funny to see how 5 nations are so dependable on 2 teenagers.

[TouKen4Life3g]

It would be awesome to see the others taking care of the situation. It's funny to see how 5 nations are so dependable on 2 teenagers.

Technically, they're depending only on Naruto. No one knows about Sasuke except for Team Taka. So yeah, 5 nations are so dependable on a teenager. Funnier than before.

[tricksie]

God, I haven't saw Elysium yet (and I'm getting it this week on Netflix). Kishimoto, you spoil me the movie!!!

 

Yeah it's kind of ironic that Kishimoto is making nods to other current works in his manga. Kind of like his own fanart. You can see it was on his mind with a futuristic Naruto battle scene. Totally going to have to see the movie now!

 

Whole-heartedly agree with Sakura Blossom's post. In this thread and probably after the next few chapters it's going to revolve around shipping. Hopefully it won't go nuts, but bashing makes it worse. Don't do it.

 

And love what Inferno180 said:

 

Really it just seems that the more moments we get the more we can go without needing to argue or debate, just speculate on what's next. That's something we get to enjoy with ns being the most developed. We spend more time using the evidence for how it can occur rather than debate it with other pairings, I mean there was cause for debate before and during the time between 469 and 631 but that has been resolved. Things just go up for ns.

 

I just can't "like" this enough!! You're so right - NS just continues to develop, no matter how many wrenches Kishimotos throws in the story. Great post!

[Atheck]

I think Orochimaru is using the right time to hit the spiral Zetsu, but the timing could be against him.

 

He definitely has his own agenda. If he's preoccupied with assessing Spiral Zetsu's ins and outs, that leaves no one to fight Madara. Everything looks to be in Akatsuki's favour right now. Besides removing Sasuke's eyes for his own personal use, what could be his next most likely move? Helping Black Zetsu with Minato and Kakashi? 

 

 

It would be awesome to see the others taking care of the situation. It's funny to see how 5 nations are so dependable on 2 teenagers.

 

Two teenagers with the power of demi-gods. I don't see how they could be of much use at the moment when they're struggling with Spiral Zetsu alone. Madara pretty much has free rein over the battlefield. If he wanted to kill everyone, he could probably carry it out with ease. It's just been one catastrophe after another.