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[Narufan85]

Because that's the theme of Naruto! You doing something terrible? Meh. No biggie. There's no such thing as negative repercussions in Naruto.

[Nate River]

Yes, for an elite tribe of super-ninjas, they have a hard time in grasping the concept of criminality and danger in their once-and-future enemies. 

 

Just like everything else in the story, they never learn their lessons about their opponents either. Nothing is ever surpassed here.

 

I think you are looking at the surpassing issue all wrong. 

 

For example, Sarutobi could not bring himself to off Orochimaru despite what Orochimaru had done. Hashirama had Madara. 

 

So Naruto said, "I can do better. I'll let a guy who started a world war by himself off the hook and even praise him as he dies. I'll let that guy my predecessor let live continue to remain free and alivr, and not only will I do that, I will do it even after my predecessors decision resulted in my home being invaded and that same predecessor dying by that guy's hands. But why stop there? I won't worry when he has a kid. I'll let that kid join a team with my son and my friend's daughtrt. And best of, I will force Yamato to watch him forever, but do nothing about him despite him never giving a good reason for switching sides. But I know even that's not enough, So I will let his underling who murdered countless ninja for no other reason that the fact he needed Edo Tensei fodder run an orphanage......"

 

Naruto: "And when those kids go missing and I suddenly see my cool buddy Obito walking around, I won't ask questions."

 

See, he surpassed the previous generation.

 

A dumbass for the ages. 

[KnS]

A dumbass for the ages. 

 

Irrefutable proof that Naruto was the author's self-insert character.  

[TouKen4Life3g]

Realistically speaking, if SS/NH didn't happen, Sasuke would be the one to fill in the shock value of "who's the father."

[Nostradamus]

 

Irrefutable proof that Naruto was the author's self-insert character.  

Yeah but that raises the question why make Naruto so bad in the end if Naruto is a mirror image of himself?

[rocci]

Realistically speaking, if SS/NH didn't happen, Sasuke would be the one to fill in the shock value of "who's the father."

Yeah, we will not get sasuke child as a girl and the glasses would be legit thing instead of a misleading.
His child will fill mitsuki role.

[Namikaze Clan]

 

The future

[Bail o' Lies]

Cause kishi couldn't think of a third kids from a paring couple for team konohamaru so he pulled one out of his ass.

[rocci]

Cause kishi couldn't think of a third kids from a paring couple for team konohamaru so he pulled one out of his ass.

He could just make a lee x ten kid to put on it.
It will change the dynamic by making burito or salad fill sasuke role in the team.

@namikaze
He might be a son the biggest pshyco in the manga, but that doesn't mean he will become one.

@nate
Favoritism > self insert.

Edited by rocci, 24 November 2015 - 12:23 AM.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

 

 

The future

 

Would be a fitting end

Still wishing Sakura/Naruto were dead and spared this fate...though it did not Save Itachi from becoming the Pedo-brother apparently. 

[TheFirstEvil100]

 

I think you are looking at the surpassing issue all wrong. 

 

For example, Sarutobi could not bring himself to off Orochimaru despite what Orochimaru had done. Hashirama had Madara. 

 

So Naruto said, "I can do better. I'll let a guy who started a world war by himself off the hook and even praise him as he dies. I'll let that guy my predecessor let live continue to remain free and alivr, and not only will I do that, I will do it even after my predecessors decision resulted in my home being invaded and that same predecessor dying by that guy's hands. But why stop there? I won't worry when he has a kid. I'll let that kid join a team with my son and my friend's daughtrt. And best of, I will force Yamato to watch him forever, but do nothing about him despite him never giving a good reason for switching sides. But I know even that's not enough, So I will let his underling who murdered countless ninja for no other reason that the fact he needed Edo Tensei fodder run an orphanage......"

 

Naruto: "And when those kids go missing and I suddenly see my cool buddy Obito walking around, I won't ask questions."

 

See, he surpassed the previous generation.

 

A dumbass for the ages. 

You know what I wish that something like this would come to bite Naruto in the ass in away I mean letting Orochimaru live should have something well something bad happen that will not only cause Konoha to burn but the whole world he saved as well.

[rocci]

You know what I wish that something like this would come to bite Naruto in the ass in away I mean letting Orochimaru live should have something well something bad happen that will not only cause Konoha to burn but the whole world he saved as well.

Nah tnj will solve the problem.
I always expect character like orochimaru would be immune to tnj.
It seem like I am wrong.

[AHK]

The really sad thing is not that he had a child, but that he turned out to be a better parent than Naruto, Sakura, and Sasuke could ever dream of being.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Nah tnj will solve the problem.
I always expect character like orochimaru would be immune to tnj.
It seem like I am wrong.

What changed his mind? Oh right, no answer.

[Yyubie]

You know what I wish that something like this would come to bite Naruto in the ass in away I mean letting Orochimaru live should have something well something bad happen that will not only cause Konoha to burn but the whole world he saved as well.

Its already happen, the villain in gaiden those baldy with a lot sharingan eye in his head and child with sharingan named shin- uchiha. Im sure those are product of inhuman test subject that was once a normal human. I bet many people and kids gone missing from every small village because orochimaru kidnap them to be use as a lab rat.

[Dexter]

Yeah, we will not get sasuke child as a girl and the glasses would be legit thing instead of a misleading.
His child will fill mitsuki role.

except it wasn't a misleading Gaiden made it pretty friggin clear Salad is adopted....both Sakura and Sasuke flat out say this

[Dexter]

Yeah but that raises the question why make Naruto so bad in the end if Naruto is a mirror image of himself?

This isn't teh ending he wanted. He even said in his recent NYCC interview his wife is like Sakura and his life with her is not like NH or SS. And there was another video where he says that he doesn't like the pairings.

 

On top of that his editor said "So westerners wanted Naruto to end up with Sakura?"

 

That is the most transparent "oh kitten we kittened up" response I've ever heard.

[yimiiyumi]

except it wasn't a misleading Gaiden made it pretty friggin clear Salad is adopted....both Sakura and Sasuke flat out say this

are you still in this "adopted" thing ?

could you shoe me what panel does sasuke or sakura say this ?

well in sasuke's novel sakura says her is going to search sasuke and follow him

maybe sakura find an oro experiment with sasuke DNA and sakura started to love the kid as her own kid and little by little sasuke also started to love the kid as his own daughter

this is the only way what you says makes at least a little of sense 

Edited by yimiiyumi, 24 November 2015 - 09:40 AM.

[Nate River]

This isn't teh ending he wanted. He even said in his recent NYCC interview his wife is like Sakura and his life with her is not like NH or SS. And there was another video where he says that he doesn't like the pairings.

 

On top of that his editor said "So westerners wanted Naruto to end up with Sakura?"

 

That is the most transparent "oh kitten we kittened up" response I've ever heard.

 

 

It did? I was pretty sure it made the opposite clear. That was one reason it was so bad. It with through the trouble of having Naruto explain it didn't matter only for it to turn out that she wasn't adopted and Karin had the cord for some reason.

 

Naruto's speech seemed to designed to make it a non-issue. So why bother answering the question and defeating the who purpose of the plot? At that point, even if she was Karin's bio child..so what? Gaiden's message destroyed any pairing value of that fact.

[TheFirstEvil100]

Nah tnj will solve the problem.
I always expect character like orochimaru would be immune to tnj.
It seem like I am wrong.

If Kishi does it then yes, but me and if I had the money then no Naruto would be dead.

 

Its already happen, the villain in gaiden those baldy with a lot sharingan eye in his head and child with sharingan named shin- uchiha. Im sure those are product of inhuman test subject that was once a normal human. I bet many people and kids gone missing from every small village because orochimaru kidnap them to be use as a lab rat.

Well that is true in a way but no ones says nothing to Naruto abouyt it remember they are all now slaves to what Naruto says is right, but as you said we have not seen it really come back I want a group to show up that lost their children thanks to Naruto, after all he is the one that is letting Orochimaru live knowing that he is deadly.

 

A Villain that has lost their son or daughter to Orochimaru either as a test subject or Orochimaru taking over said child's body the parents will want blood for what happened to their child. True a lot will think that Naruto will just TNJ them but, I wouldn't let that happen as its not like they would be alone I mean they would be at least 7 all together that want some form of pay back on Naruto.

 

But in the end when Naruto fights the father and Sasuke Sakura and Hinata are all dead Naruto would still TNJ him and my own viallain  would fake it then stabe Naruto with a knife and leave Naruto to well bleed to death.

Edited by TheFirstEvil100, 24 November 2015 - 04:25 PM.