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[TouKen4Life3g]

So...

 

Has anyone try to defend this over community?

[T XD]

Would you prefer more fights for Sarada but more fan service as well or no fights but build character without fan service?

No fan services cause fan services can ruin characters and the plot. Build Sarada's character the same as of the other main characters.
 

I personally think you guys are overreacting to Sarada's new outfit and that the outfit is fine.It's not SJ/sp fault you guys look at Sarada's outfit and think's she is sexy. Also i think using Sarada and words like whore/strip tease/porn/lolicon in the same sentence is very silly "in 2-3 years i think underage rape crime will skyrocketing".Even if some of you are joking the statements are still silly. I mean Sakura's outfit clearly showed off her back side but no one was complain then. Most people are only saying anything because they don't like the ending. Some of these statements remind me of that dumb bbc reporter that when to japan and tried to clain anime/manga promotes pedophilia.
http://goboiano.com/...tes-pedophilia/

I agree about her personality changes but i think the outfit if fine(likeing something and thinking it's fine are two different things) unlike clothes i see in stores marketed to 13-15 year old girls that look like something a adult women would wear to the club or something. Judging something is totally fine however some people mostly tumblr are taking it too far and are claiming people who work at sp/sj are pedophiles among other things which is stupid. Just like the dumb bbc reporter who did that documentary in japan. How the outfit is fanserivcecy? Most of your typical fanservice characters have oversized boobs or something which Sarada doesn't have. I do think the heels are dumb and not practical for a ninja though.I could see the outrage if Sarada didn't have the shirt underneath but she does..

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I still don't see how she is being sexualized in terms of her outfit. What specific problems do you guys have with the outfit?

Short dress till the contour of her lower behind, too much of high-heels and too much leggings shown off aren't a problem for an 11-12 years old girl ? She was in the wrong section of the shop.

I can't look at her without wondering when she will be shown interacting with her mother and father with them completely fine with how she's dressing.

 

That's not all. Her fight scenes have leggy poses with the looks of her toned body shape. She looks fake. The 3rd poster in the spoiler tag is just too much. For an 11 - 12 years old child, nop.

 

Sakura's outfit showing only her back isn't a stretch at all like Sarada's outfit. Showing her back only can't be compared to an 11 - 12 years old wearing what Sarada is wearing.

 

Plus, we all know that's not how ninjas dress.

 

Looks stupid, I hate it, moving on.........  
 
BTW why are they sexualizing Salad anyway, she's not the love interest It's a Red herring!!!!

I don't have an answer cause this series started long before to take decisions and guesses on what one and fans would like to have beside the author himself
 

Edited by T XD, 02 April 2017 - 04:18 PM.

[Yyubie]

At least put mini pants on her .... that is definitely a mini skirt right?? And she is like her parents going to be close range fighter so obviously when shes fighting there's gonna be a lot of panty flash (going with logic), also why wear mini skirt when going into a battle?? can you guys find any other reason except fan service??.  Like i said ... there's no problem if they make it that this show is for teenager or add echi tag in it.

[TouKen4Life3g]

She has but it's practically an undie....

[Phantom_999]

the heels are all that's a no-no for me because Ninja's shouldn't be wearing high heels. It's not practical or good for your back. Can you honestly say you can run and tree jump in those things? Sakura's heels in part 2 while again Ninja's I don't think should be wearing heels at least are of an appropriate height and won't raise ergonomic issues, and seem relatively comfortable and easy to run in. 
 
The sexualizing of 12 to 13 is a big controversy in anime of course but I personally don't really have criticism for it be cause I see it occasionally. Anyone watch Yugioh Zexal? See how short the skirts are on the female uniforms? those girls are only a year or so older than Sarada. So do I think it's wrong to sexualize young girls? Well, hard to say. Not that I think that the the implications are not wrong but my issue is that the state of dress in not the problem in sex crimes. It never is, and to say otherwise is sexist. And yes I'm talking about sex crimes because sex crimes are the problem everyone has about sexualization (especially if the person in question is underage). Does anyone else think otherwise?       

Edited by Phantom_999, 02 April 2017 - 09:39 PM.

[Bail o' Lies]

Sakura did wear heels. Mind you not as high as heels as her twelve years old daughter. Why is everyone forgetting that? The problem isn't as much with the heels as the entire outfit, especially her dress. In fact the heels are merely a detraction from the real problem, her dress. Let's look at the outfit from top to bottom; headband and glasses on her face, her dress has a high collar, a ascot around the neck,  her dress is open to her navel if not lower, the only thing covering her chest are bandages, her dress end right on the curvature of the ass which means it is barely covering her crouch as well, then bare legs until we get to those high heels everyone can't stop talking about.

 

So if we were to remove the ascot and the bandages. She is showing everything in plain view to the world especially if she doesn't wear underwear when she walks.

 

The dress is like Anko's coat and skirt, if you remove those all Anko is wearing is some fishnets over her torso, while Salad just has some bandages and an ascot maybe some underwear. Now Anko is an adult character they make her can wear whatever they want. Salad is a child that should not have gone into puberty yet, or is just starting to enter it. Therefor still a child, therefor very inappropriate design for her to have, therefor creepy that they decided that she should wear that.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 03 April 2017 - 12:15 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I get that heels has occurred in the series before. My problem is that it's too high up for a girl like that and I know ninja + Shounen = oddball design, like orange suit (stand out) but this has no rhyme or reason. It still boggles my mind on why she's the only one with a complete overhaul.

[Bail o' Lies]

I get that heels has occurred in the series before. My problem is that it's too high up for a girl like that and I know ninja + Shounen = oddball design, like orange suit (stand out) but this has no rhyme or reason. It still boggles my mind on why she's the only one with a complete overhaul.

Once again the Heels are a distraction from the real problem which is the dress. Are you tell me that you be fine with this outfit if it didn't have the heels?!

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 02 April 2017 - 06:54 PM.

[T XD]

The high heels is a minor thing in front of her outfit. Sarada's design was very suitable for her before this chapter.

 

About Sakura's heels, she wore them in Shippuden, they are 3 inches with suitable clothes, and she was 16 years old.

The difference between the outfits of Sarada, 12 years old, and Sakura in Shippuden, 16 years old, is significant.

 

Edited by T XD, 02 April 2017 - 07:55 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Once again the Heels are a distraction from the real problem which is the dress. Are you tell me that you be fine with this outfit if it didn't have the heels?!

Oh I know. It's more like I want to no longer acknowledge that dress, because my eyes bled enough.

[TouKen4Life3g]

The high heels is a minor thing in front of her outfit. Sarada's design was very suitable for her before this chapter.

 

About Sakura's heels, she wore them in Shippuden, they are 3 inches with suitable clothes, and she was 16 years old.

The difference between the outfits of Sarada, 12 years old, and Sakura in Shippuden, 16 years old, is significant.

 

I don't know how to say it correct, but the things about Sarada's heels is just so tall that her feet are nearly bend to 90 degree angle. It's not "disgusting" (if you ignore the rest) but it's hard to suspend the disbelief that she can do it too well with those.

[SlyNinjaKnight]

Who is the 'ninth' that they are talking about on page 35? Naruto is the seventh Hokage, and I am pretty sure that none of the other major villages have gotten close to that number of Kages, so who is the ninth?

 

And also, Sarada is literally being completely sexualized in this. No pants on, not even those under shorts that Sakura wore in the beginning of Naruto, several inch heels and the poses. Someone said earlier that the writers were trying to ensure that Sarada was well-liked right off the bat, making sure they didn't make the mistake they did with Sakura. Notice how when Burrito jumped in and did something stupid, and she made the 'wide-eyed'/shocked face, she didn't hit Burrito. Sakura would have done that to Naruto, trying to teach him a lesson, and for comedic effect, yet Sarada doesn't do anything.

[Ginzy]

Salad has major daddy issues...I wonder who she's trying to impress with that outfit 🤔

[Bail o' Lies]

Who is the 'ninth' that they are talking about on page 35? Naruto is the seventh Hokage, and I am pretty sure that none of the other major villages have gotten close to that number of Kages, so who is the ninth?

 

And also, Sarada is literally being completely sexualized in this. No pants on, not even those under shorts that Sakura wore in the beginning of Naruto, several inch heels and the poses. Someone said earlier that the writers were trying to ensure that Sarada was well-liked right off the bat, making sure they didn't make the mistake they did with Sakura. Notice how when Burrito jumped in and did something stupid, and she made the 'wide-eyed'/shocked face, she didn't hit Burrito. Sakura would have done that to Naruto, trying to teach him a lesson, and for comedic effect, yet Sarada doesn't do anything.

It's the ninth they are talking about how Bolt got a super rare card of his father again the he doesn't want. Clearly showing how much of a kitten the translators cared about the quality, not counting that it came out very late.

 

She berates him but that's it. She a tsudere without any teeth. They know that while they went with the hinata ending, she is not and has not been a success for them. What was a success was Naruto and Sakura interacting, but Sakura wasn't will like by a large number of vocal fans. So they want BS in order to regain the success they had with NS but remove/replace/improve the traits that Sakura had that made her hated. So Sakura was useless then Salad is always able to somewhat hold her own in a fight until Bolt saves her, Sakura was consider ugly/unattractive make sure everyone understand Salad is hot by dressing her as sexy as possible, Sakura was abusive then Salad never hits Bolt just berates him, and so on.

 

Salad has major daddy issues...I wonder who she's trying to impress with that outfit

Thjat would be a character trait and I don't think the artist or the writer care enough about her to give her one of those.

 

Oh I know. It's more like I want to no longer acknowledge that dress, because my eyes bled enough.

The shoes are inappropriate and do stick out even in that image, but that outfit is far worse.

 

I don't know how to say it correct, but the things about Sarada's heels is just so tall that her feet are nearly bend to 90 degree angle. It's not "disgusting" (if you ignore the rest) but it's hard to suspend the disbelief that she can do it too well with those.

They aren't nearly 90 degree they are 90 degree if the shoe is that angle and the feet are a curve of that angle. Sakura did wear heels but they are still can be consider combat sandals since they are securely fastened and protect her shins. Also that heel wasn't that high, but with the design did give the impression that we were suppose to consider the character wearing it attractive. Salad is wearing something that is clearly very casual and with that outfit bring the mind the term "Lady of the Evening."

[rocci]

She has the character of Sakura and the looks of Karin.

Why kishi doesn't make sk canon in the first place if salad will have Karin appearance? I mean if salad is like sasuke then he could probably pull the red herring but not with eyesight. It's a kittening genetic and sakura a bookworm herself doesn't use eyeglass why should salad?

Don't tell me he will use ms bs to justify salad bad eyesight.

[rocci]

I don't think outfit is a problem.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I don't think outfit is a problem.

Is how the user use it?

[T XD]

I don't know how to say it correct, but the things about Sarada's heels is just so tall that her feet are nearly bend to 90 degree angle. It's not "disgusting" (if you ignore the rest) but it's hard to suspend the disbelief that she can do it too well with those.

When then feet look like that, it's the heels being high. Of course she can do it well with them cause she's fighting with them like they're sandals

 

Who is the 'ninth' that they are talking about on page 35? Naruto is the seventh Hokage, and I am pretty sure that none of the other major villages have gotten close to that number of Kages, so who is the ninth?

 

And also, Sarada is literally being completely sexualized in this. No pants on, not even those under shorts that Sakura wore in the beginning of Naruto, several inch heels and the poses. Someone said earlier that the writers were trying to ensure that Sarada was well-liked right off the bat, making sure they didn't make the mistake they did with Sakura. Notice how when Burrito jumped in and did something stupid, and she made the 'wide-eyed'/shocked face, she didn't hit Burrito. Sakura would have done that to Naruto, trying to teach him a lesson, and for comedic effect, yet Sarada doesn't do anything.

Sarada is Tsundere with no punching the hero, but I'm willing to bet that she will at some point XD

 

Why kishi doesn't make sk canon in the first place if salad will have Karin appearance? I mean if salad is like sasuke then he could probably pull the red herring but not with eyesight. It's a kittening genetic and sakura a bookworm herself doesn't use eyeglass why should salad?

Don't tell me he will use ms bs to justify salad bad eyesight.

Either cause they originally made Sarada to be Karin's child or they want her to look like Karin. Sakura's part of this is that Sarada has her character.

 

This series has gotten gradually bad since the war with Obito and Madara in Shippuden ( What's the name of this arc ? I forgot ). It turned to a board game of pairings. Let's see what the fans want and roll the dice.

Edited by T XD, 03 April 2017 - 10:10 AM.

[HANAMI]

I think they'll probably change the way she dresses at some point. When they animate it, if they didn't change her design, I think they'll change her clothe or make the dress longer.

 

they kept her design, but it's been altered

 

[T XD]

 

they kept her design, but it's been altered

 

Better.

Edited by T XD, 03 April 2017 - 11:14 AM.