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#1 SakuraHarunoChan

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 03:09 AM

Was it just because he was annoying to her or was there some other reason? Maybe she didn't like how he looked or something?... Lol.

Edited by SakuraHarunoChan, 06 December 2011 - 03:21 AM.


#2 Nate River

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 04:28 AM

I think she outright states it: She thought Naruto deliberately tormented her.

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 04:40 AM

QUOTE (Nate River @ Dec 6 2011, 04:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think she outright states it: She thought Naruto deliberately tormented her.


why did she think that??

did she think he was making fun of her, by liking her? :o like it was a joke?

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 06:19 AM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Dec 6 2011, 05:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
why did she think that??

did she think he was making fun of her, by liking her? :o like it was a joke?

i believe she said he was getting in her way of pursuing sasuke.
 
 
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Posted 06 December 2011 - 06:22 AM

because he represented everything Sasuke wasn't when Sakura was still a fangirl of his. Sasuke was skilled, calm, aloof, a pretty boy. Naruto got the worst grades, was loud, in-your-face and wears orange (ok kind of kidding on the last part but you get the idea).

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 06:29 AM

She was all about Sasuke so her obsession with him clouded her vision.

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 12:48 PM

Remember, at the time they graduated from the Academy all Naruto did at there was pull pranks. What else would Sakura think but that Naruto was tormenting her just for laughs. She still viewed herself as unattractive because of her big forehead, something even Ino used against her.

The anime distorts her irritation at Naruto to be focused only on how he was getting in the way of her chasing Sasuke, but in manga canon it's spelled out in her own words that she thinks she's being deliberately targeted by Naruto because he is enjoying mocking her by calling her "chan" in front of all the other kids. Again, she believes she is unattractive because of her big forehead, and her self-esteem is pretty low to boot. There was no way she would believe anyone would like her. Her so called "hatred" disappeared right quick as soon as she started closely interacting with Naruto in chapter 5, in fact, we see her showing a semi-conscious attraction to Naruto in that chapter (a point Kishimoto emphasizes even in the first databook. Illustrating that point with an image from chapter 5.) This almost completely ignored by the anime adaption which overly emphasizes her Sasuke fangirlism and overplays her tsundere actions toward Naruto- even having her acting the exact opposite of what she does in the manga...

Edited by ciardha, 06 December 2011 - 04:07 PM.

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 02:47 PM

QUOTE (Nate River @ Dec 6 2011, 12:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think she outright states it: She thought Naruto deliberately tormented her.



And get in her love way Kishi did mention something like that in a one and one interview,
he said it was way to give a little fuel to the love triangle.

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But then we see Sakura flash back and what she say about him and state that he alway knew and alway help her.

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 03:04 PM

QUOTE (ciardha @ Dec 6 2011, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Remember, at the time they graduated from the Academy all Naruto did at there was pull pranks. What else would Sakura think but that Naruto was tormenting her just for laughs. She still viewed herself as unattractive because of her big forehead, something even Ino used against her.

The anime distorts her irritation at Naruto to be focused only on how he was getting in the way of her chasing Sasuke, but in manga canon it's spelled out in her own words that she thinks she's being deliberately targeted by Naruto because he is enjoying mocking her by calling her "chan" in front of all the other kids. Again, she believes she is unattractive because of her big forehead, and her self-esteem is pretty low to boot. There was no way she would believe anyone would like her. Her so called "hatred" disappeared right quick as soon as she started closely interacting with Naruto in chapter 5, in fact, we see her showing a semi-conscious attraction to Naruto in that chapter (a point Kshimoto emphasizes even in the first databook. Illustrating that point with an image from chapter 5.) This almost completely ignored by the anime adaption which overly emphasizes her Sasuke fangirlism and overplays her tsundere actions toward Naruto- even having her acting the exact opposite of what she does in the manga...


I totally agree with your statement. Well said.

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 04:11 AM

I think ciardha pretty much hit the nail on the head, her hate towards Naruto always spurred from her not knowing anything about him, but once she got to know him better her hatred for Naruto started to disappear and it was replaced by respect, and further by genuine concern and empathy when she found out that he was the one that held the Nine Tails within his body and what would happen to him if it were extracted.

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 05:07 AM

QUOTE (ciardha @ Dec 6 2011, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Remember, at the time they graduated from the Academy all Naruto did at there was pull pranks. What else would Sakura think but that Naruto was tormenting her just for laughs. She still viewed herself as unattractive because of her big forehead, something even Ino used against her.

The anime distorts her irritation at Naruto to be focused only on how he was getting in the way of her chasing Sasuke, but in manga canon it's spelled out in her own words that she thinks she's being deliberately targeted by Naruto because he is enjoying mocking her by calling her "chan" in front of all the other kids. Again, she believes she is unattractive because of her big forehead, and her self-esteem is pretty low to boot. There was no way she would believe anyone would like her. Her so called "hatred" disappeared right quick as soon as she started closely interacting with Naruto in chapter 5, in fact, we see her showing a semi-conscious attraction to Naruto in that chapter (a point Kishimoto emphasizes even in the first databook. Illustrating that point with an image from chapter 5.) This almost completely ignored by the anime adaption which overly emphasizes her Sasuke fangirlism and overplays her tsundere actions toward Naruto- even having her acting the exact opposite of what she does in the manga...


....could that be why she was so surprised that she heard naruto loved her from sai??? mellow.gif

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 05:57 AM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Dec 7 2011, 12:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
....could that be why she was so surprised that she heard naruto loved her from sai??? mellow.gif


Basically yes. Sakura eventually figured out that Naruto had some attraction to her, but she didn't realize it was anything more than a basic romantic attraction not an intense romantic love. Thus her various flirtations with Naruto including in chapters 245, 311, 343. She was trying to send him a message that she was attracted to him too, and hinting at her deeper romantic feelings for Naruto at other part 2 moments, the first example of that in the search for Gaara arc, when she tries to say something about her feelings but Naruto cuts her off and walks away, then we have her outcry when Naruto goes 4 tails, and her words to Yamato about Naruto, where Yamato clarifies for Sakura what her feelings for Naruto are, etc....

Because of the way Naruto acted after he created that self-imposed wall around his feelings for Sakura (completely unknown to her, and her reaction was horror when she found out from Sai what Naruto had done to himself. She still took on all the blame even though none of it belonged to her- in fact she tried to get him to drop what was the out in the open part of the POAL at the end of part 1 and when he wouldn't, she promised to become stronger so they could bring back Sasuke together next time.) she wasn't aware that Naruto's feelings for her was as deep as her feelings for him.
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 06:48 AM

QUOTE (ciardha @ Dec 6 2011, 11:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Basically yes. Sakura eventually figured out that Naruto had some attraction to her, but she didn't realize it was anything more than a basic romantic attraction not an intense romantic love. Thus her various flirtations with Naruto including in chapters 245, 311, 343. She was trying to send him a message that she was attracted to him too, and hinting at her deeper romantic feelings for Naruto at other part 2 moments, the first example of that in the search for Gaara arc, when she tries to say something about her feelings but Naruto cuts her off and walks away, then we have her outcry when Naruto goes 4 tails, and her words to Yamato about Naruto, where Yamato clarifies for Sakura what her feelings for Naruto are, etc....

Because of the way Naruto acted after he created that self-imposed wall around his feelings for Sakura (completely unknown to her, and her reaction was horror when she found out from Sai what Naruto had done to himself. She still took on all the blame even though none of it belonged to her- in fact she tried to get him to drop what was the out in the open part of the POAL at the end of part 1 and when he wouldn't, she promised to become stronger so they could bring back Sasuke together next time.) she wasn't aware that Naruto's feelings for her was as deep as her feelings for him.

What episodes would those chapters be?

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 07:29 AM

Ciardha you're right as always. Sakura has terribly low confidence, too, like you said. Really it's just the war thats been stopping them from interacting again, Sakura knows naruto loves her, Naruto is kinda getting the feel of Sakura loving him, too. Cause he's so damn blinded. Am i right?


and kishi hinted it in the first databook that sakura was subconsciously attracted to Naruto? Cool C: What'd it say?

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 12:56 AM

It basically what ciardha, but I would like to add that it is very similar to how everything was in High school. Sasuke is the popular jock, Sakura the pretty girl, and Naruto the geek. In high school, most girls like to go for the jock and such due to popularity. It's just our way of thinking I guess. (I was the geek, so I was on the opposite side of the field.)

It's always funny how girls first see the geek as unpopular or unappealing, but soon realize that sometimes the geek is the best guy to be with.
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Posted 08 December 2011 - 01:40 AM

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Dec 7 2011, 07:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It basically what ciardha, but I would like to add that it is very similar to how everything was in High school. Sasuke is the popular jock, Sakura the pretty girl, and Naruto the geek. In high school, most girls like to go for the jock and such due to popularity. It's just our way of thinking I guess. (I was the geek, so I was on the opposite side of the field.)

It's always funny how girls first see the geek as unpopular or unappealing, but soon realize that sometimes the geek is the best guy to be with.

Mmmhmm this.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 05:20 AM

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Dec 7 2011, 07:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It basically what ciardha, but I would like to add that it is very similar to how everything was in High school. Sasuke is the popular jock, Sakura the pretty girl, and Naruto the geek. In high school, most girls like to go for the jock and such due to popularity. It's just our way of thinking I guess. (I was the geek, so I was on the opposite side of the field.)

It's always funny how girls first see the geek as unpopular or unappealing, but soon realize that sometimes the geek is the best guy to be with.


Yet, geeky guys don't ever seem to see that about the girl geeks in high school at all- they just keep chasing the popular pretty girls and are completely uninterested in the geeky girls who actually have a lot more in common with them, and would understand their excitement over geeky stuff. Some of those geeky girls crush on the handsome popular boys because they don't want to be seen as a "freak" but be accepted.

Sakura was the geeky unpopular girl in the Academy. She wasn't one of the popular pretty girls like Ino. remember how Sakura was tormented by the other girls about her forehead, and it was clear even when she graduated her social status amongst the girl was still in the lower rungs- remember the other girls reaction when she plopped down next to Sasuke: "Who does she think she is?". She was your typical girl geek- low self-esteem because they don't fit with the cultural norms of attractiveness, very intelligent, generally gets good grades- Sakura made perfect scores on all her tests in school- it's said in the manga, and remember the written part of the Chunnin exam- she did something no Genin had ever done before- answered all nine of the questions that no Genin before had ever answered even one correctly without cheating. Sasuke is even shown thinking- I don't know the answer to even one of these. Sakura is also shown multiple times having the same reactions as Naruto, especially in part 1, but it happens in part 2 as well. Kishimoto also shows how Sakura shares geekiness with Naruto when he did that part 1 drawing where Sakura and Naruto make sentai TV show (like Power Rangers) poses in unself-consciously openly geeky light hearted fun. Sasuke does a pose too but looks hideously embarrassed to be seen doing so (Kishimoto talked about this in the first Naruto art book- Uzumaki.)

Now in part 2 Sakura is remarked by others as being pretty, and has gained much on her self-confidence. She began to fall for Naruto early on in part 1, but not fully consciously until the end of part 1 by the beginning of part 2 she's become open about her attraction and romantic feelings for Naruto. Enough so she openly flirts with Naruto the first time she sees him in 245, enough that she gives him a "bedroom eyes" look in 343 when she offers to feed him, enough to romantically embrace him in front of the whole village, enough to make her romantic confession to Naruto in front of several witnesses, etc... Sakura is as open in expressing her romantic feelings for Naruto as Naruto was to Sakura in part 1.
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