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Posted 08 May 2020 - 05:24 PM

wouldn't Kakashi's speed and striking power even without the Sharingan be way too much for him? Or am I wrong?

 

It's shown in Kakashi Gaiden that the Chidori/Lightning Blade causes him to have tunnel vision because he's moving too fast and can't adjust his movement, so he can still be easily attacked while doing it unless he has the Sharingan to compensate for it or using a Jutsu like his Earth-Style: Fanged Pursuit Jutsu to hold the enemy in place so he can move in for the kill. 



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Posted 08 May 2020 - 09:41 PM

What why Hinata vs Darth Vader?

Because no matter who wins there's going to be crying fanboys all over the place. 



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Posted 08 May 2020 - 10:48 PM

Because no matter who wins there's going to be crying fanboys all over the place. 

Lol, true but Vader would destroy Hinakittens why not Ahsoka?



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Posted 08 May 2020 - 11:41 PM

Lol, true but Vader would destroy Hinakittens why not Ahsoka?

That's evil. Vader would at least give her a quick death. Ashoka would leave Hinata alive and let her remain embarrassed for the rest of her life after the fight. 



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Posted 09 May 2020 - 09:59 AM

That's evil. Vader would at least give her a quick death. Ashoka would leave Hinata alive and let her remain embarrassed for the rest of her life after the fight. 


And? Ahsoka leaving Hinata like that would piss off her fans just add Ahsoka cutting off Hinata boobs.

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Posted 09 May 2020 - 02:48 PM

What why Hinata vs Darth Vader?

  that's to one sided not that I'm complaining cause clearly Vader wins without trying besides hinata is even that strong

That will be her breast reduction surgery appointment.

ha but if only take away the only reason she is popular
  

Because no matter who wins there's going to be crying fanboys all over the place.

 that's true they'd bs some excuse why hinata should have one it's like if you put her against superman when the out come is so obvious.
 

Lol, true but Vader would destroy Hinakittens why not Ahsoka?

 actually that's a better idea though I'm seeing Lucy or mira from fairy tail both of which would beat her especially mira
 

And? Ahsoka leaving Hinata like that would piss off her fans just add Ahsoka cutting off Hinata boobs.

You forget morals to the Jedi don't exist in death battle as boomstick said in obi-wan vs Kakashi

I don't know. It was just something I saw on a Spanish Naruto website and the translations aren't exactly perfect. I think we know for a fact that the only movie Kishimoto had a great part in was Road to Ninja. I'll grab screenshots next time I come across it.
 
 

I saw and the comments are in ablaze.
I argued in Obi-Wan's favor and one guy even called me a "Naruto casual" when I spilled my logic, but at least he posted scans in his defense which is more than what most did. Although, the dude kept forgetting that most of Kakashi's greater feats with the Kamui was because Obito helped him do it and achieve it. It is sad they forgot this detail.
"You can't dodge the Kamui"
Yes and no. Kakashi was never an uchiha and he could never master the Kamui perfectly. They forget the fact that the Sharingan eyes get stronger the closer they are to the other eye and by themselves are not as powerful. In truth, Kakashi shouldn't have even had the Sharingan in the fight, but they gave it to him any way. Without Obito and Naruto to boost Kakashi's abilities, I don't think Kakashi could ever use the Kamui to its fullest potential.
Meanwhile, Obi-Wan took on so many armies and Jedi killers by himself.

Geez it's like any Naruto character that loses causes an uproar what a shock , people overestimate Naruto characters. Though I'm glad Sasuke lost to hiei that was my most wanted fight in deathbattle and hiei pulled through.

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Posted 09 May 2020 - 04:00 PM

Geez it's like any Naruto character that loses causes an uproar what a shock , people overestimate Naruto characters. Though I'm glad Sasuke lost to hiei that was my most wanted fight in deathbattle and hiei pulled through.

Some seem to think that every Naruto character is on the scale of Dragonball Z characters. Not all of a sudden Kakashi can move faster than light.

That's one thing I hate is when people say that characters are moving faster than light without any proof to the matter. Going back to Superman, we have panels of him where characters actually say "He is moving faster than light."

"Well, he can move faster than the eye can blink."

Well yeah, but we don't blink that fast. Our eyes blink in one tenth of a second. I mean, sound can travel 36 yards in one tenth a second which means just being the speed of sound within 36 yards can be faster.

People forget that speed matters in distance and time. The closer you are the faster you have to move to dodge.

A quarter of a second is average reaction time or 0.25 seconds.

However, Obi-Wan has shown that force allows them to have precognition which is how they are able to deflect blaster bolts even without seeing. Even Luke, with very little training, was able to express this.
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That's the part people forget. Especially with Kamui. Can you dodge Kamui if you knew it was going to happen and know exactly where it is being aimed? How fast can the Sharingan track movements?

The Sharingan is not infallible and even Rock Lee has shown that you can beat people even with the Sharingan. Itachi even showed how a Sharingan user can beat another user even while being mostly blind.


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Posted 09 May 2020 - 06:01 PM

don't know why people are surprised, they also seem to think that Naruto and Sasuke can take on New-52 Superman... Supes could blink and destroy the whole Narutoverse, let alone Naruto and Sasuke alone.


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Posted 09 May 2020 - 07:24 PM

don't know why people are surprised, they also seem to think that Naruto and Sasuke can take on New-52 Superman... Supes could blink and destroy the whole Narutoverse, let alone Naruto and Sasuke alone.

 

My main character, which is an American version of Naruto at his peak (end of the series) can contend with Super Saiyan 4 Goku lol. A million Naruto and Sasukes are no match for him lol.


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Posted 09 May 2020 - 08:40 PM

Some seem to think that every Naruto character is on the scale of Dragonball Z characters. Not all of a sudden Kakashi can move faster than light.
That's one thing I hate is when people say that characters are moving faster than light without any proof to the matter. Going back to Superman, we have panels of him where characters actually say "He is moving faster than light."
"Well, he can move faster than the eye can blink."
Well yeah, but we don't blink that fast. Our eyes blink in one tenth of a second. I mean, sound can travel 36 yards in one tenth a second which means just being the speed of sound within 36 yards can be faster.
People forget that speed matters in distance and time. The closer you are the faster you have to move to dodge.
A quarter of a second is average reaction time or 0.25 seconds.
However, Obi-Wan has shown that force allows them to have precognition which is how they are able to deflect blaster bolts even without seeing. Even Luke, with very little training, was able to express this.tumblr_lyq8hegDnz1rnfw1bo1_500.gif
That's the part people forget. Especially with Kamui. Can you dodge Kamui if you knew it was going to happen and know exactly where it is being aimed? How fast can the Sharingan track movements?
The Sharingan is not infallible and even Rock Lee has shown that you can beat people even with the Sharingan. Itachi even showed how a Sharingan user can beat another user even while being mostly blind.

Agreed Naruto characters at most are like og dragon Ball levels. Plus with superman dude can track the flash in the speed force and the flash is the fastest man Alive
People assume the sharingan is up unbeatable which its not since garra beat Sasuke, Lee beat Sasuke kind of.
Plus I love boomstick ever brought up the double sharingan power up from obito and it didn't matter.
Most people probably don't know much about star wars to claim that stuff.

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Posted 09 May 2020 - 08:42 PM

don't know why people are surprised, they also seem to think that Naruto and Sasuke can take on New-52 Superman... Supes could blink and destroy the whole Narutoverse, let alone Naruto and Sasuke alone.


Regular superman could do ever maybe he'd beat them like he did the elite

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Posted 09 May 2020 - 09:26 PM

Sora would beat Naruto. After all, he took down Sephiroth.


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Posted 09 May 2020 - 10:33 PM

The only reason Naruto fans get pissed and want to defend that BS and losing is that because Hinata got her happy ending, so pro-enders as they are mainly the ones getting pissed at Naruto characters losing.

 

I mean again NH fans are nuts like Koshej who used to love Pokeshipping but boom Serena came alone and says something that NH is a porto typy for NaruHina to that kitten head all anime is conected in some form, as he attacked my friend an Ash and May fan.



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Posted 10 May 2020 - 01:32 AM

Agreed Naruto characters at most are like og dragon Ball levels. Plus with superman dude can track the flash in the speed force and the flash is the fastest man Alive
People assume the sharingan is up unbeatable which its not since garra beat Sasuke, Lee beat Sasuke kind of.
Plus I love boomstick ever brought up the double sharingan power up from obito and it didn't matter.
Most people probably don't know much about star wars to claim that stuff.

You can see how much they over-wank Kakashi and the Sharingan by so many commentators actually claiming that Kakashi could copy Obi-Wan's Force powers and act like Kakashi has perfect telepathy with it or something, and you can tell that a majority of people didn't even watch the whole video with the constant, "Where's Susano'o?!" complaints when, as you said, they specifically point out Kakashi's dual Mangekyo and Susano'o post-battle and why it wasn't used (and even saying it probably wouldn't have helped much anyway).


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Posted 10 May 2020 - 01:55 AM

 

My main character, which is an American version of Naruto at his peak (end of the series) can contend with Super Saiyan 4 Goku lol. A million Naruto and Sasukes are no match for him lol.

Super Saiyan 3 would have been better...


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Posted 10 May 2020 - 03:12 AM

You can see how much they over-wank Kakashi and the Sharingan by so many commentators actually claiming that Kakashi could copy Obi-Wan's Force powers and act like Kakashi has perfect telepathy with it or something, and you can tell that a majority of people didn't even watch the whole video with the constant, "Where's Susano'o?!" complaints when, as you said, they specifically point out Kakashi's dual Mangekyo and Susano'o post-battle and why it wasn't used (and even saying it probably wouldn't have helped much anyway).

 

Exactly, and the fact the fans just wanted Kakashi to be Obi-Wan/Ben is the only reason they're kittening so much about that as we've talked about this on Skype after the episode aired.



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Posted 10 May 2020 - 03:18 AM

don't know why people are surprised, they also seem to think that Naruto and Sasuke can take on New-52 Superman... Supes could blink and destroy the whole Narutoverse, let alone Naruto and Sasuke alone.


And Considering Superman recently punched out someone called The “World Destroyer”, he’s definitely gonna crush those two over-hyped weeb “bags of salt”, no contest. Just saying. :yes:


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Posted 10 May 2020 - 06:42 AM

Actually, if he had Susano he probably could have actually won. Mainly due to how broke that power is...probably still lose to any DBZ fighter though. Since, it does have that sword that if it stab you seals you away but again he only had it temporally when Obito granted him both his eye to fight Kaguya. There has been no hint he has had that power since then.

 

A lot of people apparently only watch the battle and assume it an accurate depiction of the battle. When it really is just letting both characters use their all their powers for drama before the stronger one finishes their opponent off. Doesn't help that their excuse for why Obi wan won was his power is both all power and infinite due to the Force (and their misunderstanding of it) when that not really the case.

 

Kakashi is a person with low stamina that primary abilities drain him rapidly to the point most of the fight he has been in left him collapsing due to exhaustion against an opponent who fighting style is based around staying on the defense till the opponent wears themselves out then going for a critical strike.



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Posted 10 May 2020 - 11:49 AM

Sora would beat Naruto. After all, he took down Sephiroth.

 sora also beat Hercules and hades a few times and several titans, and beating sephiroth isn't easy and I guess you can count yozora who is the most broken boss ever, hell have Naruto fight op yozora  

The only reason Naruto fans get pissed and want to defend that BS and losing is that because Hinata got her happy ending, so pro-enders as they are mainly the ones getting pissed at Naruto characters losing.
 
I mean again NH fans are nuts like Koshej who used to love Pokeshipping but boom Serena came alone and says something that NH is a porto typy for NaruHina to that kitten head all anime is conected in some form, as he attacked my friend an Ash and May fan.

Yep shows how small minded and jaded they are.
This is why fan entitlement is bad look up linkara talking about it.

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Posted 10 May 2020 - 12:29 PM

 Yep shows how small minded and jaded they are.
This is why fan entitlement is bad look up linkara talking about it.


Yeah but I messed up he said NH was the prototype for Ash and Serena.

But I agree it is bad its why I want Hinata to die in a Death Battle episode and to kill her self in Boruto after hearing what happened to Naruto, showing how weak she is as a character.




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