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Posted 03 May 2020 - 04:07 PM

He definitely kept the original in mind when he made the other, to make sure there was a lot of contrast.

 

Naruto's cover is bright and colorful and from the ground up. Heavy on blues, greens and red/orange in a natural landscape. 

 

Samurai 8 is blue only, with shades of black and white, and the bit of yellow/peach for the hair and skin and the spot of red for text. And he's in an otherworldly, half robotic/half ocean plants landscape. 

 

There is nothing at all in the Samurai 8 cover that would remind you of Naruto. Like if you didn't know did Samurai8 and picked it up randomly. So yeah, they went out of their way to make sure it was different.

 

edit: - The second cover almost feels like what a Minato cover might have looked like, you know?

 

I do see that with the Minato cover. It also reminds us with Samurai 8 how it's way different due to being more of a sci-fi series than anything else with how Hachimaru looks on the cover with the coloring going on.



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Posted 03 May 2020 - 11:37 PM

Like I said if it happens by a miracle the NH/SS fans will be whining and raging" the NH/SS ending is the true ending" all of that bla bla bla.

 
And that is not a risk I think that anyone involved is willing to take since they still want the support of those shipping fans that still bother with it. Alienating EVERYONE from the series would devastate the already fragile footing the series already has right now. Many of the original fans are gone and even SS fans are disillusioned by the writing put into place in Boruto at the moment. just saying this from an objective standpoint. Besides, I wouldn't start supporting this franchise again after having my value as a fan INSULTED just because I got the pairing I wanted as a consolation prize. If NaruSaku happened as intended in the story back then that would have been the sole saving grace for the entire thing. But no, not only did they slap on the "god forsaken crack pairings" at the very end of Naruto's saga, Kishimoto had the audacity to say NaruSaku was a "red herring" and fans that were vying for them read the entire thing wrong. All the the romantic and tender moments between them, all that heartbreak from Sakura and Naruto being an understanding "shoulder to cry on", all the of the hugs and offer to feed Naruto were a RED HERRING, when instead time would have been better spent focusing on the actual couples that they wanted so badly last second and developing them to genuinely loving and believable relationships instead of coming with that B!&^H @$$ excuse. That very comment is the most insulting and pathetic excuse a writer can ever come up with,  :superior: BAR NONE.
 
And YOU KNOW THAT IS SAYING SOMETHING when even some NH fans are getting their "wake up call" right now. Not that I have any sympathy to give them since they were asking for this to the detriment of the story and everyone's enjoyment of it.¯\_(ツ)_/¯


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Posted 03 May 2020 - 11:37 PM

I have the Samson Q2U, I know in America it went for about 50$, I paid double that because taxes. It's the best dynamic microphone for this price and it even competes with some 500$ microphones.
Here's a video of someone who's doesn't have such a horrible voice like I do. :cry: Don't like the sound of my voice. Question for you guys that watched the NaruSaku podcast. What do you think of my voice?
 
Here's the video for you Evil:

So that microphone cost 50 dollars?

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Posted 03 May 2020 - 11:59 PM

So that microphone cost 50 dollars?
 

That's the MSRP for it. I have no idea if you can still find it and if you can at what price because of the current thing in the world, people who needed a microphone or webcams bought pretty much everything they could.

Here for example you can barely find any webcams and if you can they cost 3x-6x the normal price.


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Posted 04 May 2020 - 05:54 PM

 
And that is not a risk I think that anyone involved is willing to take since they still want the support of those shipping fans that still bother with it. Alienating EVERYONE from the series would devastate the already fragile footing the series already has right now. Many of the original fans are gone and even SS fans are disillusioned by the writing put into place in Boruto at the moment. just saying this from an objective standpoint. Besides, I wouldn't start supporting this franchise again after having my value as a fan INSULTED just because I got the paring I wanted as a consolation prize. If NaruSaku happened as intended in the story back then that would have been the sole saving grace for the story for me back then. But no, not only did they slap on the "god forsaken crack pairings" at the very end of Naruto's saga, Kishimoto had the audacity to say NaruSaku was a "red herring" and fans that were vying for them read the entire thing wrong. All the the romantic and tender moments between them, all that heartbreak from Sakura and Naruto being an understanding "shoulder to cry on", all the of the hugs and offer to feed Naruto were a RED HERRING, when instead time would have been better spent focusing on the actual couples that they wanted so badly last second and developing them to genuinely loving and believable relationships instead of coming with that B!&^H @$$ excuse. That very comment is the most insulting and pathetic excuse a writer can ever come up with,  :superior: BAR NONE.
 
And YOU KNOW THAT IS SAYING SOMETHING when even some NH fans are getting their "wake up call" right now. Not that I have any sympathy to give them since they were asking for this to the detriment of the story and everyone's enjoyment of it.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

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Posted 04 May 2020 - 08:31 PM

Welp, FFVII is on it's way. Hope it's worth it.

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Posted 05 May 2020 - 03:31 AM

Oh he’s actually asking as a hypothetical question, there wasn’t an interview that really stated that


It was something I saw that claimed Kishimoto said this. I don't believe it nor have the interview. I am curious where it started though.


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Posted 05 May 2020 - 05:48 AM

Ah. Well still, too little too late for me even if it were true. Unless he were to actually improve his story tell vastly with NaruSaku as the the “icing in the cake”, then maybe. I will ask for nothing less to have had my time wasted. A great meaningful story with little hypocritical BS at best to justify anything. The Pairing of choice with Naruto And and Sakura will only come second to the story and after the kinks in their relationship are fixed. Such as if The love triangle must exist still Sakura realizes that what she feels for Sasuke is not love and among other things.


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Posted 05 May 2020 - 05:53 AM

It was something I saw that claimed Kishimoto said this. I don't believe it nor have the interview. I am curious where it started though.

What was the question? Did kishimoto want to do a reboot or not want to write Boruto...No, Ikemoto wanted to do a reboot like Marvel and DC do with American comic books. Clearly he was told to do Boruto. Though, kishimoto did not want to write Boruto after the movie is correct. 


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Posted 05 May 2020 - 10:27 AM

It was something I saw that claimed Kishimoto said this. I don't believe it nor have the interview. I am curious where it started though.

It's possible them testing the waters to see if there's a market for it, to test and see what the fans say, if it's profitable enough for them to actually do it. I've seen gaming companies doing this these past years.


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Posted 06 May 2020 - 02:41 PM

It was something I saw that claimed Kishimoto said this. I don't believe it nor have the interview. I am curious where it started though.


Well James good news is another Naruto character lost a death battle that being kakashi against obi-wan, now we just need Sakura to win and Hinata to lose.

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Posted 06 May 2020 - 03:40 PM

What was the question? Did kishimoto want to do a reboot or not want to write Boruto...No, Ikemoto wanted to do a reboot like Marvel and DC do with American comic books. Clearly he was told to do Boruto. Though, kishimoto did not want to write Boruto after the movie is correct. 

I don't know. It was just something I saw on a Spanish Naruto website and the translations aren't exactly perfect. I think we know for a fact that the only movie Kishimoto had a great part in was Road to Ninja. I'll grab screenshots next time I come across it.

 

 

Well James good news is another Naruto character lost a death battle that being kakashi against obi-wan, now we just need Sakura to win and Hinata to lose.

I saw and the comments are in ablaze.

I argued in Obi-Wan's favor and one guy even called me a "Naruto casual" when I spilled my logic, but at least he posted scans in his defense which is more than what most did. Although, the dude kept forgetting that most of Kakashi's greater feats with the Kamui was because Obito helped him do it and achieve it. It is sad they forgot this detail.

"You can't dodge the Kamui"

Yes and no. Kakashi was never an uchiha and he could never master the Kamui perfectly. They forget the fact that the Sharingan eyes get stronger the closer they are to the other eye and by themselves are not as powerful. In truth, Kakashi shouldn't have even had the Sharingan in the fight, but they gave it to him any way. Without Obito and Naruto to boost Kakashi's abilities, I don't think Kakashi could ever use the Kamui to its fullest potential.

Meanwhile, Obi-Wan took on so many armies and Jedi killers by himself.


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Posted 06 May 2020 - 09:50 PM

I don't know. It was just something I saw on a Spanish Naruto website and the translations aren't exactly perfect. I think we know for a fact that the only movie Kishimoto had a great part in was Road to Ninja. I'll grab screenshots next time I come across it.

 

 

I saw and the comments are in ablaze.

I argued in Obi-Wan's favor and one guy even called me a "Naruto casual" when I spilled my logic, but at least he posted scans in his defense which is more than what most did. Although, the dude kept forgetting that most of Kakashi's greater feats with the Kamui was because Obito helped him do it and achieve it. It is sad they forgot this detail.

"You can't dodge the Kamui"

Yes and no. Kakashi was never an uchiha and he could never master the Kamui perfectly. They forget the fact that the Sharingan eyes get stronger the closer they are to the other eye and by themselves are not as powerful. In truth, Kakashi shouldn't have even had the Sharingan in the fight, but they gave it to him any way. Without Obito and Naruto to boost Kakashi's abilities, I don't think Kakashi could ever use the Kamui to its fullest potential.

Meanwhile, Obi-Wan took on so many armies and Jedi killers by himself.

So that is the question or it isn't because if it is the answer is that. No it was Ikemoto that wanted to do a reboot like an American Comic book.

 

Death battle often is arbitrary on what power some characters are and are not allowed to have. However, they tend to let the characters have their most iconic stuff. For Kakashi that's the sharingan. They dismissed the Obito boost that gave him two and Suusano because that only happened once and was never seen again and implied to be a short limited situational power. 

 

Kamui was an ability Kakashi learned over the time skip and while it he got better over it -especially when he was working together with Obito- it was still an ability that drained him and did have a wind up for the effects to really hit. also it a line of sight attack so all one hast to do is break kakashi's line of sight with them.



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Posted 07 May 2020 - 02:00 AM

wouldn't Kakashi's speed and striking power even without the Sharingan be way too much for him? Or am I wrong?


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Posted 07 May 2020 - 04:39 PM

I saw and the comments are in ablaze.

I argued in Obi-Wan's favor and one guy even called me a "Naruto casual" when I spilled my logic, but at least he posted scans in his defense which is more than what most did. Although, the dude kept forgetting that most of Kakashi's greater feats with the Kamui was because Obito helped him do it and achieve it. It is sad they forgot this detail.

"You can't dodge the Kamui"

Yes and no. Kakashi was never an uchiha and he could never master the Kamui perfectly. They forget the fact that the Sharingan eyes get stronger the closer they are to the other eye and by themselves are not as powerful. In truth, Kakashi shouldn't have even had the Sharingan in the fight, but they gave it to him any way. Without Obito and Naruto to boost Kakashi's abilities, I don't think Kakashi could ever use the Kamui to its fullest potential.

Meanwhile, Obi-Wan took on so many armies and Jedi killers by himself.

 

Plus as Death Battle! showed, Ben/Obi-Wan could have, basically, tapped into unlimited power given how the Force is all around people in the Star Wars universe, while chakra in Naruto is finite, even when it comes to people who are Jinchuriki, since while their Biju are living chakra beings, they still have their limits going for their power to their Jinchuriki.

 

Plus Ben/Obi-Wan having experience compared to Kakashi, and his having trained through hard work, while Kakashi is knowledgeable, a lot of his knowledge also is from the Sharingan allowing him to copy Jutsu without having to work hard and his being a natural genius, and his favoritism for them as how he was before he focused on training Sasuke and all that jazz.



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Posted 07 May 2020 - 05:48 PM

wouldn't Kakashi's speed and striking power even without the Sharingan be way too much for him? Or am I wrong?

This is where things are...complicated.

Kakashi, with the Sharingan, was said to be able to cut lightning in half thus they terms his chidori the lightning cutter, but we don't know how this event unfolded. Was he putting in all his effort? Why did he cut a lightning bolt in half? How did he react to it? It is all unknown. I can assume of course that it might just be his maximum effort in that Kakashi is faster than lightning, but it is hard and taxing considering he isn't that fast all the time.

Obi-Wan...is just as fast if not faster casually or with just a little effort. He was even fast enough to react in nanoseconds at top form.
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Here he is moving faster than lightning as well. So much so that no one saw him move save for Anakin. Yes, this is the Disney canon too from the comic books.
Obi-Wan is the best Jedi duelist of his age. He is better than Mace Windu in terms of this and he was strong enough to take on Palpatine in a fight. Something even Yoda couldn't do. So in dueling Obi-Wan > Mace Windu > Palpatine > Yoda > Count Dooku = Anakin. (Anakin gets better.)

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Anakin even supports this by confirming it. In Star Wars Legends, the canon before Disney, Obi-Wan was even faster and has even more force abilities.

Since Obi-Wan is a duelist specialist, I have to give it to Obi-Wan.


 


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Posted 07 May 2020 - 08:53 PM

How soon until we see Hinata VS Darth Vader?

 

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Posted 07 May 2020 - 09:45 PM

Is Samurai 8 even good?



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Posted 08 May 2020 - 12:22 AM

How soon until we see Hinata VS Darth Vader?
 
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What why Hinata vs Darth Vader?

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Posted 08 May 2020 - 01:38 AM

What why Hinata vs Darth Vader?


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