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[Naruko]

Me too...Wait...that person is a she?

Let's say I got used to call her using the feminine. But she doesn't indentify with both "male" and "female".

Uhm? I never heard of it and it's not for someone else's love or whatever. I thought it was more a thing of orient. It represents the beginning of a new you, letting the past in...well, the past (?)
 
what does it was?

I've seen it in manga before... them saying it's a tradition to cut your hair when you break up. In author notes and all.

[Nar123]

"thought that was it for me?" ??? huh?
 
Why what did Nana do there??
 
confused 

She voiced a non canon character that got a lot of spotlight just bc she is "the VA".

This non canon character ruined the anime

Edited by Nar123, 10 December 2014 - 07:50 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

"thought that was it for me?" ??? huh?
 
Why what did Nana do there??
 
confused 

You said she ruined an anime and now a mainstream. That means two series. What were they?

[trang95]

You said she ruined an anime and now a mainstream. That means two series. What were they?

Naruto is the mainstream

[TouKen4Life3g]

Naruto is the mainstream

Right. So what's the "anime"?

[LuckyChi7]

 

 

This Sasuke will forever have my respect even after what happens to him in 698 (The true ending to Naruto) 

 

whatever happens afterwards Fails.   

[Narufan85]

When I think about it, Naruto's new haircut really proved to be symbolic. 

 

Everyone believed Naruto would become like Minato-- a selfless, kind-hearted leader and a loving father who would sacrifice his life for the well-being of his children.

 

But the short hair shows the deviation from his father's foot-steps Naruto takes to become more like Obito-- a selfish, cold-hearted man who forgets everything he stood for as a child and who cannot even sacrifice time for his children. 

 

 

Cold man. That's cold. But true.

[LadyGT]

@ladygt
 
a typo? How you can confuse "-san" with "chan" LOL

I know, let me live in my delusions sigh

[Khaleesi]

I've seen it in manga before... them saying it's a tradition to cut your hair when you break up. In author notes and all.

Note of the author or of the translator? What I'm saying is that it doesn't represent the thing per se, but what I said to you. In that case, you can "use" it too in that situation. I've read that cuting your hair in China, by example, could mean that too. Is in their history and kitten.

[merryGOflava]

She voiced a non canon character that got a lot of spotlight just bc she is "the VA".

This non canon character ruined the anime

 

ugh that sounds annoying.

[harry4e]

Yeah, I can't help wondering if Kishimoto was hedging his bets by making it pro NS till the very end, then having a whiplash ending of NH.

 

So, if he planned an NS ending all along, then found out they wanted to extend the series with NH, then he may have agreed to it and taken the money, but left enough NS in the story and left everything vague enough that the story could have an alternative ending as a genjutsu world if it ever came to pass. (If the series was ever rebooted.)

 

So basically, it's just like Chatte's theory, which I don't think is that far off the mark. There is so much strange and wrong about the ending. And as much as it's been shown to be 'conclusive,' actually it's really not... it's just a few panels and we have to connect all the dots. There are no explanations of how the romances happened, and the few panels relating to pairing could easily be interpreted different ways, when cast in a different light.

 

I think Kishimoto's definitely come out as a sexist. And nothing will change that. But I still say this ending is fishy. Like the author wanted to go one way, and the other forces, the anime and movie teams, wanted to go another.

 

Kishimoto does such a good job at writing redemption stories, now he needs to do one for himself and rewrite the ending of NS.

 

Oh I love that, the master of redemption needs to read his own books for tips on how to redeem himself.

 

I don't want to believe the conspiracy theorists but when you look at the manga, and the contradictions in the end, you can't help but wonder if Kishi was really pushed instead of doing this freely. He had Kakashi think how Sakura's feelings for Sasuke had changed, when in the movie she said the opposite, he showed Team Seven together at the end, when the movie split them up, he had Kakashi be a badarse at the end, when he was useless in the movie, he had Sakura save both Naruto and Sasukes life when in the movie Hinata is shown as a god. He showed the kids of Naruto and Sasuke endure the similar levels of loneliness when the manga showed how their fathers craved bonds, then we have the kids, Himewari, with the exception of the whisker marks looks like a carbon copy of Hinata with similar hair to Lee when he was a kid, then putting Lee in the next panel, Have bolt look almost identical to Naruto, and hair that is earily similar to being a cross being like Naruto, Mebuki, and Kizashi, and ofcourse we have Sarada who is almost a spitting image of Karin with the Uchiha colour scheme. And Sakura looks more like Kushina than ever.

 

Is that all lazy work from Kishi who had designed the kids years ago, and then when he changed his mind about pairings just added whisker marks to the Uzumaki kids and gave Sarada Sakuras catchphrase, , is he screwing trolling the fans even to the end or is he tryign to get the message accross he was forced to make the pairings he did?

 

I know we've ragged on Kishi no end this past few weeks, but never has he contradicted himself so much in his manga, his comments and his movie. Even the way Naruto was shown he had feelings for Hinata was through a Genjutsu, yet the entire final battle was to save everyone from a genjutsu like this. 15 years of content and interviews and we'd likely find less contradictions in those entire 15 years than we can in the last two chapters and the movie.

[ns.Believe.It]

Do you guys remember the RtN scene where Sasuke's rose was shown to be dying just as Sakura is thinking about Naruto ? At that moment, I thought to myself- 'Yep,SS is dead ! '

 

And in the manga, this was followed by Sakura's fake smile, Sasuke almost slicing Sakura in half, Sasuke prepared to let her drown in lava, Sasuke telling Naruto to let her die, panel after panel of Sakura looking depressed and hurt, Sasuke genjutsu stabbing her, Sasuke openly declaring that he did not like her. 

 

Any one with a shred of common-sense would automatically come to the conclusion that there was no way that a pairing as horrible as that would ever happen.  

 

I honestly believed Kishimoto was torturing the SS fans with all those Anti SS moments and the situation was like beating a dead horse with a stick. Little did I know that a 'sorry' and a forehead poke would erase every bad thing.

Edited by ns.Believe.It, 10 December 2014 - 08:02 PM.

[Naruko]

Note of the author or of the translator? What I'm saying is that it doesn't represent the thing per se, but what I said to you. In that case, you can "use" it too in that situation. I've read that cuting your hair in China, by example, could mean that too. Is in their history and kitten.

Tbh, I don't remember if it were author or translator notes o.O I guess translator... makes more sense.

Well, that could explain why Naruto had his hair cut. To separate him of the old Naruto. The one that never gave up.

Edited by Naruko, 10 December 2014 - 08:01 PM.

[SuperChief]

I'm assuming nothing new has come out?

[Khaleesi]

Tbh, I don't remember if it were author or translator notes o.O I guess translator... makes more sense.

Well, that could explain why Naruto had his hair cut. To separate him of the old Naruto. The one that never gave up.

lol, it makes sense

[trang95]

This is funny, but also gross...

What will never happen

[PhenixElite]

I'm not. I'm agender. I'm okay with she/he/they.
 

Wut? Why "they"? How does that work? Is this some kind of split personality thing?

[ichigo500]

I've seen it in manga before... them saying it's a tradition to cut your hair when you break up. In author notes and all.

Yeah, I've seen that too ! In several mangas, when guys ( I'm not sure) want to move on after being heartbroken or when they do something wrong and then want to apologize, they generally cut their hair 

[LadyGT]

This is funny, but also gross...

What will never happen

Shouldn't it be the other way around?

[ThroughWithLove]

Shouldn't it be the other way around?

 

It shouldn't be, but it is.