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[Phantom_999]

Oh definitely. Like I said, I have no problem with liking a character for that reason, or even listing them as your favourite for that reason. What I'm PISSED OFF about is Hinata's wacko worshipers treat her like some effing goddess that can do no wrong, she is more important to the plot than Naruto, and deserves everything she wants. And unfortunately, THAT HAPPENED. As a result, it ruined the Naruto franchise. Again there is a difference between loving a character and over exaggerating that character to the nth degree and deluding yourself that they are effing more important strong and  plot relevant than they actually are

Edited by Phantom_999, 27 February 2018 - 02:06 AM.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Oh definitely. Like I said, I have no problem with liking a character for that reason, or even listing them as your favourite for that reason. What I'm PISSED OFF about is Hinata's wacko worshippers treat her like some effing goddess that can do no wrong, she is more important to the plot than Naruto and deserves everything she wants. And unfortunately, THAT HAPPENED and it ruined the Naruto franchise. Again there is a difference between loving a character and over exaggerating that character to the nth degree and deluding yourself that the are effing more important strong and  plot relevant than they actually are

 

Exactly, Phantom, and the fact is, her appearance also helped make that such a huge problem on top of how Sakura was portrayed even if she was getting way better, but njope, they didn't care.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

I really like Madara. He was actually savage. It wasn't at all realistic how Sakura was still attracted to Sasuke after having laid eyes on the beast of a man that was Madara. Plot induced stupidity.

Well...Sasuke later becomes a Madara look alike with short emo hair

But yea, Madara was hot as hell.

[VanitasDS76491]

Oh definitely. Like I said, I have no problem with liking a character for that reason, or even listing them as your favourite for that reason. What I'm PISSED OFF about is Hinata's wacko worshippers treat her like some effing goddess that can do no wrong, she is more important to the plot than Naruto, and deserves everything she wants. And unfortunately, THAT HAPPENED. As a result, it ruined the Naruto franchise. Again there is a difference between loving a character and over exaggerating that character to the nth degree and deluding yourself that they are effing more important strong and  plot relevant than they actually are

I heard from first evil that NH fans say that they think hinata is more beautiful than the elves from the middle-earth series from the hobbit and Lord of the Rings and the guy who made them said they are beyond beautiful and saying hinata is that, I have no words for that just that it's dumb.

[Gravenimage]

I heard from first evil that NH fans say that they think hinata is more beautiful than the elves from the middle-earth series from the hobbit and Lord of the Rings and the guy who made them said they are beyond beautiful and saying hinata is that, I have no words for that just that it's dumb.

 

More Hinata fanboyism BS.

[Kagomaru]

I heard from first evil that NH fans say that they think hinata is more beautiful than the elves from the middle-earth series from the hobbit and Lord of the Rings and the guy who made them said they are beyond beautiful and saying hinata is that, I have no words for that just that it's dumb.

...Hinata fans be cray-cray.

[VanitasDS76491]

More Hinata fanboyism BS.

 
True that even though the elves from those movies can kick her ass
 

...Hinata fans be cray-cray.

Yes and it's unhealthy.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

 
True that even though the elves from those movies can kick her ass
  Yes and it's unhealthy.

They would be able to fire an arrow in such a way that it perfectly turns around with the wind and strikes Hinatatas right in the 1 degree blind spot of the Byakugan.

Done.

[VanitasDS76491]

They would be able to fire an arrow in such a way that it perfectly turns around with the wind and strikes Hinatatas right in the 1 degree blind spot of the Byakugan.
Done.

Like when neji fought kidomaru weird that weakness is never brought up again. Also can hinata take a Monster elephant, cause legolas by himself did that like nothing. Point legolas and toikln.

[James S Cassidy]

I wanted to post this because it explains why Naruto fails as a story
https://youtu.be/aB-UKwO367s

 

At around 11 minutes 10 second mark, Matpat mentions Chekhov's gun. A method in that a element in a story that is made aware of is used in the next act. If it is not essential to the plot, then don't put it in there at all. This is how Kishimoto truly failed as a writer. He put focus on so many things that some didn't get focus or wasn't used. I am sure you can name a few coughsithpathsweaponsthattentenpickedupcough, but while the minor stuff can be overlooked, it is when major stuff that gets dropped is when it got bad like Naruto's love for Sakura.

Kishimoto...why was so many elements hammered into us if you weren't gonna use them anyway?

 

[VanitasDS76491]

I wanted to post this because it explains why Naruto fails as a story
https://youtu.be/aB-UKwO367s
 
At around 11 minutes 10 second mark, Matpat mentions Chekhov's gun. A method in that a element in a story that is made aware of is used in the next act. If it is not essential to the plot, then don't put it in there at all. This is how Kishimoto truly failed as a writer. He put focus on so many things that some didn't get focus or wasn't used. I am sure you can name a few coughsithpathsweaponsthattentenpickedupcough, but while the minor stuff can be overlooked, it is when major stuff that gets dropped is when it got bad like Naruto's love for Sakura.
Kishimoto...why was so many elements hammered into us if you weren't gonna use them anyway?

Wait is that the latest star wars theory he did where he thinks he ruined the last jedi?

[Phantom_999]

I wanted to post this because it explains why Naruto fails as a story
https://youtu.be/aB-UKwO367s

 

At around 11 minutes 10 second mark, Matpat mentions Chekhov's gun. A method in that a element in a story that is made aware of is used in the next act. If it is not essential to the plot, then don't put it in there at all. This is how Kishimoto truly failed as a writer. He put focus on so many things that some didn't get focus or wasn't used. I am sure you can name a few coughsithpathsweaponsthattentenpickedupcough, but while the minor stuff can be overlooked, it is when major stuff that gets dropped is when it got bad like Naruto's love for Sakura.

Kishimoto...why was so many elements hammered into us if you weren't gonna use them anyway?

 

 

Indeed, but it was something we knew all along though. Naruto was supposed to be the setting's "Jesus" an bring global everlasting peace to the entire world? SAY HELLOOOOO TO BORUTO!!!!!!!!!! Naruto was supposed to bring his sexy "man candy" Sasuke back home to their village? Sasuke leaves the village again with Naruto''s blessing this time!!! probably because they had some sort of off screen "making out and banging session"!!! Naruto said repeatedly  that he loved Sakura? NAH, RED HERRING!!!! He was actually in love with shy, long haired, white-eyed, sex on legs for years with out even realizing it and was too subconsciously SHY admit it to her OR himself!!!!!! Yeah that's what happened and no I'm NOT EXAGGERATING

Edited by Phantom_999, 21 January 2018 - 04:11 AM.

[Yyubie]

He notice Sakura , that's pretty far from him but can't notice hinata that's JUST SIT RIGHT BESIDE HIM

Maybe that one shoot when they about to eat in expensive restaurant but naruto didn't have enough money then hinata use her byakugan and peep at naruto's pocket and see it then she ask naruto to go to ramen shop instead ....

 

Sadly you are wrong Naruto , your first ever date is with Sakura :

 

 

In case too small and you can't see it , Naruto said : I'll walk you home.

It's funny how he looks happy when hes with Sakura , he smile. But when hes with hinata he looks sad and not even smiling

Source : https://neonnerdrage...-i-did-it-again

 

This word is very good too :

Those who are okay with the Naruto ending are scum, but those who are okay with the Naruto ending AND like Boruto are worse than scum.

Source : https://sasu--hime.t...ruto-ending-are

Edited by Yyubie, 21 January 2018 - 10:11 PM.

[jak123]

He notice Sakura , that's pretty far from him but can't notice hinata that's JUST SIT RIGHT BESIDE HIM

Maybe that one shoot when they about to eat in expensive restaurant but naruto didn't have enough money then hinata use her byakugan and peep at naruto's pocket and see it then she ask naruto to go to ramen shop instead ....

 

Sadly you are wrong Naruto , your first ever date is with Sakura :

 

 

In case too small and you can't see it , Naruto said : I'll walk you home.

It's funny how he looks happy when hes with Sakura , he smile. But when hes with hinata he looks sad and not even smiling

Source : https://neonnerdrage...-i-did-it-again

 

This word is very good too :

Those who are okay with the Naruto ending are scum, but those who are okay with the Naruto ending AND like Boruto are worse than scum.

Source : https://sasu--hime.t...ruto-ending-are

Either they were shippers who got their way or just don't care enough. I don't see how anyone could think the ending/pairings are good when there's so much evidence stacked against it. They should fix it. Have both Sasuke and Hinata die in Boruto and make Sakura and Naruto get together. While Naruto's marriage with Hinata is somewhat better, neither marriage seems great. I go between feeling sad for Sakura to hating her for marrying someone who tried to kill her on multiple occasions. Even her reactions to Sasuke mirror her shallow crush looks in the beginnning instead of actual love for her husband. It's like she has stockholm syndrome.

Edited by jak123, 21 January 2018 - 10:33 PM.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Either they were shippers who got their way or just don't care enough. I don't see how anyone could think the ending/pairings are good when there's so much evidence stacked against it. They should fix it. Have both Sasuke and Hinata die in Boruto and make Sakura and Naruto get together. While Naruto's marriage with Hinata is somewhat better, neither marriage seems great. I go between feeling sad for Sakura to hating her for marrying someone who tried to kill her on multiple occasions. Even her reactions to Sasuke mirror her shallow crush looks in the beginnning instead of actual love for her husband. It's like she has stockholm syndrome.

 

No kidding, Jak, though I see it as both sometimes too, where they got what they wanted and now they don't give a crap anymore, and lash out to anyone who is against them, which is pitiful for sure. It shows they were never real fans of the series, and only cared about their pairing. A friend of mine basically teased about this to me and how we here at H&E are still talking even after the ending even if we know we can't change things, but it isn't about that, it's about being LIED TO by Kishimoto and then all this crap happening because he chose to give up

[VanitasDS76491]

Either they were shippers who got their way or just don't care enough. I don't see how anyone could think the ending/pairings are good when there's so much evidence stacked against it. They should fix it. Have both Sasuke and Hinata die in Boruto and make Sakura and Naruto get together. While Naruto's marriage with Hinata is somewhat better, neither marriage seems great. I go between feeling sad for Sakura to hating her for marrying someone who tried to kill her on multiple occasions. Even her reactions to Sasuke mirror her shallow crush looks in the beginnning instead of actual love for her husband. It's like she has stockholm syndrome.

Who is naruto talking to in that scene where he says your mom and I went on our first date here?

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Who is naruto talking to in that scene where he says your mom and I went on our first date here?

 

Boruto, since apparently it is including a filler chapter Kishi did after the fact of "The Last" to show Naruto and Hinata going on a date, then they go to Ichiraku when Hinata notices he doesn't have a lot of money to take her to a fancy place, and bullcrap like that. @_@

[DrK]

 

Boruto, since apparently it is including a filler chapter Kishi did after the fact of "The Last" to show Naruto and Hinata going on a date, then they go to Ichiraku when Hinata notices he doesn't have a lot of money to take her to a fancy place, and bullcrap like that. @_@

That is used a lot to show how Hinata is much better as a person than Sakura. Even though with Sakura they also went to Ichiraku and Naruto paid in any event.

[jak123]

That is used a lot to show how Hinata is much better as a person than Sakura. Even though with Sakura they also went to Ichiraku and Naruto paid in any event.

It's like every event that Hinata does have with Naruto was already done with Sakura.

[Bail o' Lies]

It's like every event that Hinata does have with Naruto was already done with Sakura.

That's because the writers are un-creative insecure kittens. So other then a few times where it is just showing Hinata as super awesome ninja, or an incredible beauty that no other female can be compare with. It is mostly, take a NS scene place Hinata where Sakura was in order to cancel out the NS scene, also even though its not as good as the NS scene just focus on convincing the viewers that its even better.