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[rocci]

Yaiba manga has kaguya as final villain.

[Bail o' Lies]

Kaguya is based on Japanese myth. Their one in a inuyasha movie as the villain. She seem to be a standard villain when a writer run out of idea for villains.  https://en.wikipedia...e_Bamboo_Cutter  http://okamimytholog...princess-kaguya

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 20 February 2016 - 10:41 AM.

[Advaith]

Statement: This series would have been better off with no romance focus at all. Showcase bonds but never get deep as in romance and end with no pairings would help the series to be better than today.

Agree or disagree?

I agree and disagree on this 

 

Kishimoney has no writing skills and romance isn't the only thing that ruined this manga,it was the last element that destroyed what was left of this manga.

[TouKen4Life3g]

The problem is she's never intend to be like that.
She's just kishi way to remove madara.
Have kishi introduce her and homura along with the sage, then it will not become like that.

That was the most disappointing part. I kept hoping that there's more to her. I was hoping Zetsu will be quiet and let her do the talking soon. What I got: defeated by one hell of a convenience way.

The next chapter have her saying why again, then sealed, never speak again. But Zetsu do. I know the true focus is on Zetsu, but why make Kaguya a blank state? It was technically our final villain and this is what we get? If fear of danger was absent wasn't enough, we got more asspulls and questionable choices. It was all over the place that you just don't want to think anymore. Not like before already did but this was enough.

Was the idea to make a female character strong for once? Well, she was but everything else is meaningless that you might as well call her "it." At least Kishi still stated that he suck at female character even after that, so he's learning for once.

Edited by TouKen4Life3g, 20 February 2016 - 12:08 PM.

[rocci]

@touken
She's getting defeat not because they out match or outsmart her, but because she's using her power in the most stupid way. I mean just nuke them or leave them alone in the other dimension.

Yes, She's the final villain.

[Bail o' Lies]

She starting move was to transport into a cavern filled with lava. Which was good. After that didn't work she just kind of floated around till she was defeated. Which was bad and boring. Well she did some other tactics/moves. Tried to separate Naruto and Sasuke. Once. Did those stakes of disintegration, which killed Obito. Then stop doing that. Then turn into giant rabbit...i think. Then sealed.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 20 February 2016 - 01:56 PM.

[VanitasDS76491]

Statement: This series would have been better off with no romance focus at all. Showcase bonds but never get deep as in romance and end with no pairings would help the series to be better than today.

Agree or disagree?

 

You can have romance if you know what your doing but Kishi even said he sucks at it. Here's an idea Get help form someone who can write good romance and have them do it so you don't look like incompetent jackass who destroyed his own series. 
 

[TouKen4Life3g]

@touken
She's getting defeat not because they out match or outsmart her, but because she's using her power in the most stupid way. I mean just nuke them or leave them alone in the other dimension.

Yes, She's the final villain.

I know. It didn't help that asspull keep on coming. Like how Kakashi and Obito were free to run in a gravity world where Naruto and Sasuke have a hard time?

[TouKen4Life3g]

To be honest, I wish I would have worded better to make it more debatable. In any case, I would disagree since there are more problems to deal with but I gues you can say it would have done less damage. They acted like they're in romcom or a romance story in Kage Summit Arc. You can tell it was a dud.

Anyway, next one for the weekend.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Statement: When dealing with anime, there are series that you take it serious due to its nature and there are series that are over the top that you can throw your brain out of the window and enjoy the ride. That all being said if you look at Naruto with the latter point of view, this series is much more forgiving; therefore, result as a good series.

Agree or disagree?

[Nar123]

Statement: When dealing with anime, there are series that you take it serious due to its nature and there are series that are over the top that you can throw your brain out of the window and enjoy the ride. That all being said if you look at Naruto with the latter point of view, this series is much more forgiving; therefore, result as a good series.

Agree or disagree?

I disagree

Because the Naruto series is not a series that tries to develop "the over the top fun" side of it like for example the first part of OPM, the Naruto series is a series that tries to take itself seriously and well...failed in doing so properly

A bunch of themes were forgotten by the end of it, character regression, lackluster ending and final arc, asspulls and bad decisions

All of these factors contributed to Naruto's derailment, in the end the message Kishi wanted to pass came across as awfully stupid and naive

[rocci]

@nar123
Kishi trying so hard to make naruto a hxh.

[Bail o' Lies]

@nar123
Kishi trying so hard to make naruto a hxh.

Trying? Wait he doing that currently?

[rocci]

Trying? Wait he doing that currently?

No, what I mean naruto is a water down version of hunterxhunter.
Many people recognize the similiarity between the two.

I can go farther to say that he copy berserk too.

[Bail o' Lies]

No, what I mean naruto is a water down version of hunterxhunter.
Many people recognize the similiarity between the two.

I can go farther to say that he copy berserk too.

Wait it thought you meant HXH highschool.

[rocci]

Wait it thought you meant HXH highschool.

Do You mean highschool dxd?

[TouKen4Life3g]

I have to disagree. The series was once a fun series as in didn't need to take it that serious and it has some sense of self awareness. Then part 2 happened and it was all "edgy" and dark. It's nothing wrong with that but it took itself too serious. The problem is that it didn't have that many merits to consider it "edgy" so everything comes off mixed feelings.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Statement: Have The Last -Naruto the Movie- work differently on Naruto and Hinata's development, it could have been not only a good pairing, but well established reasonable than any other pairings, including NaruSaku.

Agree or disagree?

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

Disagree. NH wouldn't had work no matter what.

[Bail o' Lies]

The goal of the last was to try and convince the audience as well as the people working on it. That they could ignore 15 years of a story and give the gold medal to their fantasy princess. They somehow still despite acting like she was the greatest prize somehow managed to make her end up coming off as the silver medal reward.

 

They had years to make it and could've ask kishi to do certain moments in the story to help sell the movie's pairing. And they still failed. Hell they didn't even use Neji despite him dying for the pairing. They just used the anime for the foundation for their movie. While ignoring the manga as much as the could.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 24 February 2016 - 02:34 AM.