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[Fenris]

I don't know much about the origins of the characters, but apparently one of the data/fan-books states that Sakura was actually an original creation by Kishimoto that he created after Naruto and Kakashi, as he personally decided he needed a heroine. Sasuke, from what I gather, was a suggestion from Kishi's editor to give the manga a cliche shounen rival character.

I'm not too sure on that though. I'd recommend reading this thread. The thread's been closed, but there's some interesting stuff there regarding character origins. In any case, I don't really think it has to mean anything pairing-related, since Sakura's creation as a love interest could be taken for either Naruto or Sasuke. I don't think it's the latter, based on the course the manga's taken, but it does work as a counter-point.

I just don't understand how she could be of love interest to Sasuke. I mean, he's Sasuke. He's only tried to kill her 3-4- times.
But yeah, I think I had read it on that thread, but I'm not really sure, I could of heard it from a bunch of different sources. Maybe someone who has the databook can confirm it- but i'm sure theres a lot of databooks too.
I also heard that Kishi said something like, "I needed to make the plot thicken, so I added Sasuke, if I didn't, I figured, "This will be over in a month!"" (Meaning the series..) Or something along those lines.

[jworks]

I don't know much about the origins of the characters, but apparently one of the data/fan-books states that Sakura was actually an original creation by Kishimoto that he created after Naruto and Kakashi, as he personally decided he needed a heroine. Sasuke, from what I gather, was a suggestion from Kishi's editor to give the manga a cliche shounen rival character.

I'm not too sure on that though. I'd recommend reading this thread. The thread's been closed, but there's some interesting stuff there regarding character origins. In any case, I don't really think it has to mean anything pairing-related, since Sakura's creation as a love interest could be taken for either Naruto or Sasuke. I don't think it's the latter, based on the course the manga's taken, but it does work as a counter-point.

Or that haha. Well we do know that when the "pilot" came out for Naruto long before the real series began and became popular that it struggled and was quite unpopular. Who ever was created first matters little to me. If Sasuke did come later at the editor's suggestion than Kishi is lucky he listened, I truly doubt the manga would have succeed without Sasuke.

[FoolishYoungling]

I doubt the show would be any good with many things, but yes the main evil villians matter deeply. A better question is, how did they think about Orochimaru and Kabuto.

[jworks]

I doubt the show would be any good with many things, but yes the main evil villians matter deeply. A better question is, how did they think about Orochimaru and Kabuto.

Yeppers Although Sasuke definitely holds a more crucial role in the story than any of our villains, orochimaru and Kabuto included. The villians in the story are providing a great evil presence but the true conflict that drives the story is Naruto and Sasuke's relationship. It seems Orochimaru was simply a vehicle for Sasuke's turn into darkness, continued with Madara. Of course the story has countless layers and details that make it great but this is what I see it boil down to.

[Fenris]

Or that haha. Well we do know that when the "pilot" came out for Naruto long before the real series began and became popular that it struggled and was quite unpopular. Who ever was created first matters little to me. If Sasuke did come later at the editor's suggestion than Kishi is lucky he listened, I truly doubt the manga would have succeed without Sasuke.

Yeppers Although Sasuke definitely holds a more crucial role in the story than any of our villains, orochimaru and Kabuto included. The villians in the story are providing a great evil presence but the true conflict that drives the story is Naruto and Sasuke's relationship. It seems Orochimaru was simply a vehicle for Sasuke's turn into darkness, continued with Madara. Of course the story has countless layers and details that make it great but this is what I see it boil down to.

It makes me wonder what Kishi's planning to do with all of these characters. Mainly Naruto/Sakura/Sasuke/.

[FoolishYoungling]

It makes me wonder what Kishi's planning to do with all of these characters. Mainly Naruto/Sakura/Sasuke/.

what if they all die holding hands, and the world is saved.. oh my thats sad, why did i think this?

[James S Cassidy]

I don't know about what everyone said, but I do know this. Naruto, Sakura, and Sasuke are the top three characters in the Manga.

The main character, the love interest, and the rival.

I have watched several anime/read manga of many and I seem to notice a pattern with some of them.

Most, if not all, consists of two guys and one girl as the main focus. Guy A (the main character) has a crush/love on girl A (The love interest) through out the anime/manga. Guy A thinks Girl A is in love with Guy B (the rival). Even going so far as to make stupid, but noble, choices to make her happy. Girl A usually does not have a thing for Guy B and really has a thing for Guy A, but too embarrassed to say this to said Guy. Guy B either is in love with someone else or plays the "cool guy."

I have seen this set up so many times I can practically pick who is going to be together in the end of some of them. Hinata is not part of the main three. This is not hating on her, this is kind of a fact and her kind of character is usually there to create either tension or creating comical effect. Maybe both.

The top three main characters are where all the action, drama, and development is. Most other characters are there to smooth out the edges. Create a more complete scene. This is also fact.

That's all I have to say.

P.S. I do find it really weird that some fans insist on thinking that no matter how many times Guy B says "No" to Girl A, Whether by words or actions or trying to kill her, they still think he is a potential love interest. How many times must a guy say "No" before it gets put into perspective?

What if Naruto said to Hinata "I don't love you like that," what would happen? Some fans would deny it. They would deny it all the way. I have couples I liked didn't happen, but that doesn't mean they aren't less true because I deny there existence.

If Sasuke showed any interest in Sakura I would be alright in saying "Yes, this has a chance," but he hates her with a passion. He has proved this on more than one occasion even BEFORE he became a villain. How can love be born from hate literally?

I just don't get it.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 19 September 2011 - 01:37 AM.

[naruto-z]

^ Win ^

Edited by naruto-z, 19 September 2011 - 01:32 AM.

[Fenris]

I don't know about what everyone said, but I do know this. Naruto, Sakura, and Sasuke are the top three characters in the Manga.

The main character, the love interest, and the rival.

I have watched several anime/read manga of many and I seem to notice a pattern with some of them.

Most, if not all, consists of two guys and one girl as the main focus. Guy A (the main character) has a crush/love on girl A (The love interest) through out the anime/manga. Guy A thinks Girl A is in love with Guy B (the rival). Even going so far as to make stupid, but noble, choices to make her happy. Girl A usually does not have a thing for Guy B and really has a thing for Guy A, but too embarrassed to say this to said Guy. Guy B either is in love with someone else or plays the "cool guy."

I have seen this set up so many times I can practically pick who is going to be together in the end of some of them. Hinata is not part of the main three. This is not hating on her, this is kind of a fact and her kind of character is usually there to create either tension or creating comical effect. Maybe both.

The top three main characters are where all the action, drama, and development is. Most other characters are there to smooth out the edges. Create a more complete scene. This is also fact.

That's all I have to say.

So youre basically saying that Naruto likes Sakura, but thinks Sakura likes Sasuke, when really she likes Naruto, which makes Naruto (like how he reacted during her confesion) look clearly like an idiot ?

I may of misunderstood you, I read it quick.

[FoolishYoungling]

Sakura doesn't love Sasuke really, only a friendship/crush. First crush and comrade is hard to get over really. However she does love Naruto! ^^

[James S Cassidy]

So youre basically saying that Naruto likes Sakura, but thinks Sakura likes Sasuke, when really she likes Naruto, which makes Naruto (like how he reacted during her confesion) look clearly like an idiot ?

I may of misunderstood you, I read it quick.

You got it. That's pretty much how I see it.

I am just going to say what my British friend said to Squall in FF8.

Rinoa: Give me a hug. A real big one to know I am alive.
Squall: Why would I do that?
My British friend: SHE LOVES YOU, YAH FOOL!!!! *accent*

Edited by James S Cassidy, 19 September 2011 - 12:23 PM.

[Fenris]

You got it. That's pretty much how I see it.

I am just going to say what my British friend said to Squall in FF8.

Rinoa: Give me a hug. A real big one to know I am alive.
Squall: Why would I do that?
My British friend: SHE LOVES YOU, YAH FOOL!!!! *accent*

Thats a great view on it. It makes a lot of sense.

[Fyuria'sLeo]

You got it. That's pretty much how I see it.

I am just going to say what my British friend said to Squall in FF8.

Rinoa: Give me a hug. A real big one to know I am alive.
Squall: Why would I do that?
My British friend: SHE LOVES YOU, YAH FOOL!!!! *accent*

And that is why British people are awesome.

[FoolishYoungling]

how did british talk come from Naruto :O!

[Phantom_999]

Actually I think he said Naruto Kakashi and the Third hokage Hizuren wre created first Sasuke after because he was recommended to create a rival and then Sakura because the team needed a girl although Sakura wasn't intended to be the heroine at first

[FoolishYoungling]

the team needed a girl although Sakura wasn't intended to be the heroine at first

I heard Hinata was once about to be heronie but he changed his mind, although thats probably jsut another NH rumor page i found... :O

[Fenris]

I heard Hinata was once about to be heronie but he changed his mind, although thats probably jsut another NH rumor page i found... :O

I thought that was a rumor, too.

Edited by iamfenris, 19 September 2011 - 11:04 PM.

[FoolishYoungling]

I thought that was a rumor, too.

I once thought that Haku being a guy was a rumor.. look at my opinion now..

[Fyuria'sLeo]

I once thought that Haku being a guy was a rumor.. look at my opinion now..

Till this day I still go with Haku being a girl even if Naruto stated Haku was a boy. That kid was to pretty.

[FoolishYoungling]

Till this day I still go with Haku being a girl even if Naruto stated Haku was a boy. That kid was to pretty.

*Backs away from you very slowly* shoo Zabuza is right behind u