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#1 Gravenimage

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Posted 03 January 2020 - 03:05 PM

I'm surprise no one has posted this thread yet. Official release date March 3 2020

 

TGS trailer: https://www.youtube....h?v=4_qjybyni28

 

GA trailer: https://www.youtube....h?v=eHdaWMP7D2s

 

OIC: https://www.youtube....h?v=apPHyIwfm0k


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#2 Tsuki Hoshino

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Posted 03 January 2020 - 05:47 PM

Cloti Vs Clerith Ship wars redux inc


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#3 Phantom_999

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Posted 03 January 2020 - 07:21 PM

Unless SE specifically stated that they are redoing the ending and undoing Aerith's death, probably not and I don't see the point of it :zaru:


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#4 Tsuki Hoshino

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Posted 03 January 2020 - 08:16 PM

Pls like that ever stopped the shipping wars lmao. I remember "nonono Cloud spends all his time in Aeriths church avoiding Tifa and having spirit sex!" Being a thing after advent children.

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Posted 03 January 2020 - 09:34 PM

Unless SE specifically stated that they are redoing the ending and undoing Aerith's death, probably not and I don't see the point of it :zaru:

 

If SE will be following the plot from the original then sadly Aerith will die and her death will be way more tragic than in the original. 


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#6 NarutoUzumaki01

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Posted 03 January 2020 - 10:20 PM

Cloti Vs Clerith Ship wars redux inc

A girl that is friend and feels romantic about Cloud vs girl who sees her previous boyfriend in a ptsd guy and clings onto him because of that.

HMMM.


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#7 Tsuki Hoshino

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Posted 03 January 2020 - 11:33 PM

Ey I'm not arguing which is better--I've always been Cloti Trash from the start :zaru:

I'm just saying that Shipping War lasted a good 15 years AFTER the game was released and people continually rehashed it until it got point blank confirmed in an ultimania book and that I have very little doubt that this new release is going to reignite the war some way or another. 


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Posted 04 January 2020 - 12:12 AM

Ey I'm not arguing which is better--I've always been Cloti Trash from the start :zaru:

I'm just saying that Shipping War lasted a good 15 years AFTER the game was released and people continually rehashed it until it got point blank confirmed in an ultimania book and that I have very little doubt that this new release is going to reignite the war some way or another. 

Wait, what was confirmed?



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Posted 04 January 2020 - 02:32 AM

https://thelifestrea...le-debate-over/

Basically that cloud and Tifa banging under the highwind is more or less canon.

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#10 NarutoUzumaki01

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Posted 04 January 2020 - 02:39 AM

https://thelifestrea...le-debate-over/

Basically that cloud and Tifa banging under the highwind is more or less canon.

OOf

A suprise to be sure , but a welcome one!

You made my day a bit better  :hehehe:

I have little against Aeris, but after knowing a deal with Zack, looking at her interactions wtih Clould just feels wrong in a way.


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Posted 04 January 2020 - 02:44 AM

Pls like that ever stopped the shipping wars lmao. I remember "nonono Cloud spends all his time in Aeriths church avoiding Tifa and having spirit sex!" Being a thing after advent children.

 

I'm aware of that. I just don't see the point of it. Shipping wars after the story has ended doesn't make sense to me.


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#12 NarutoUzumaki01

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Posted 04 January 2020 - 02:45 AM

 

I'm aware of that. I just don't see the point of it. Shipping wars after the story has ended doesn't make sense to me.

A bit ironic, considering site where we disscusing this.



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Posted 04 January 2020 - 04:46 AM

OOf

A suprise to be sure , but a welcome one!

You made my day a bit better  :hehehe:

I have little against Aeris, but after knowing a deal with Zack, looking at her interactions wtih Clould just feels wrong in a way.

Yeap...Zack!Cloud is v sad. 

I don't have anything against Aerith or Clerith (besides not shipping it for a variety of reasons) But uh the fandom was vicious back in the day and there were a lot of hurt butts for a looooong time. 

The honest fact of the matter is Cloud was not himself when Aerith knew him but that doesn't mean he didn't feel anything for her and it doesn't mean something more couldn't have grown between them had she lived. It was just unprobable that when he finally regained his True Self thanks to Tifa that he'd chose Aerith IMO. It's part of the tragedy of her death, no one will ever know how things would have panned out.

On the other hand Real Cloud was basically stuck on Tifa and Fake Cloud was a weird mashup of Zack and Cloud and therefore torn between the two women. So yea it was easy in the early days for people to be like "Nah Clerith was a thing." but then you know Advent children came out and it showed Cloud and Tifa as a family unit and Clerith was still in denial...and then CASE of Tifa comes out and the two of them are literally laying in bed together and she's asking half-asleep Cloud if they are a real family and if he loves her and Clerith was still like "Nah she just broke into his room to ask him that question in the middle of the night, obvs." :chuckle: 

That article was basically the final nail in the coffin. 
 


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Posted 04 January 2020 - 06:07 AM

Guess I missed "case of Tiffa"...



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Posted 04 January 2020 - 06:37 AM

Case of Tifa occurs before Advent Children, basically when Cloud and Tifa's pseudo marriage was hitting its crisis (Their relationship isn't easy I mean Cloud is still pretty kittened up by everything that's happened)
The relevant bit:
 

it didn’t go well. But we were together. It was because we were family. We lived in the same house and we were living by uniting our strength. Maybe there wasn’t much conversation or many smiles, but we were family, Tifa thought to herself. No, it was what she made herself think.
After making certain that Cloud was asleep, she spoke to him.

“We’ll be all right, won’t we?”

Of course, there was no answer. I only heard the sound of him sleeping. I wondered if the fact that he was sleeping here meant that he was part of the family.

“Do you love me?”

Cloud woke up, a perplexed look on his face.

“Hey, Cloud. Do you love Marlene?”

“Yeah. But sometimes I don’t know how to approach her.”

“Even though we’ve been together for some time?”

“Maybe that just isn’t enough.”

“Even we aren’t enough for you?”

Cloud didn’t answer.

“Sorry for asking some strange things.”

“Don’t apologize. It’s my problem.”

Cloud closed his eyes.

“Let’s work hard together.”

Tifa waited for his answer, though she couldn’t hear it even if she waited until the morning.

https://thelifestrea...-episodetifa/5/


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Posted 04 January 2020 - 11:22 AM

Honestly I think Cloud doesn't deserve either. Always emo because his best bud died saving him. I just can't stand emo characters. Tifa deserves someone better. Not that I hate it's just I have never seen him with Aerith or Tifa. He's the kind of character that will be better off alone. 


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Posted 04 January 2020 - 02:25 PM

It's not really his fault that he is how he is. The guys mind and body were all scrambled by experiments and then watching the guy who lugged him around for months get slaughtered.

Cloud suffers from actual PTSD and a guilt complex the size of meteor. Zack died, Aerith died, Denzel almost died and Cloud in his own mind shoulders those as his burdens.

The happier he is prior to advent children the worse he feels because in his mind he DOESN'T deserve Tifa or the kids.

So gonna have to disagree...he deserves to be happy with the only people who bring him peace.

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Posted 04 January 2020 - 05:06 PM

It's not really his fault that he is how he is. The guys mind and body were all scrambled by experiments and then watching the guy who lugged him around for months get slaughtered.

Cloud suffers from actual PTSD and a guilt complex the size of meteor. Zack died, Aerith died, Denzel almost died and Cloud in his own mind shoulders those as his burdens.

The happier he is prior to advent children the worse he feels because in his mind he DOESN'T deserve Tifa or the kids.

So gonna have to disagree...he deserves to be happy with the only people who bring him peace.

 

Has he changed? I saw Advent Children and it seems he was finally moving on. But I would like him to be happy with the people who care about him. 


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#19 Tsuki Hoshino

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Posted 04 January 2020 - 06:02 PM

Advent Children Complete is probably a better version, but yea he does change--you see him and Tifa sharing that flirty smile at the end of the movie, he comes back home and in Dirge of Cerberus they're shown together again and they seem pretty comfortable with one another. 

So yea he more or less decides to just live--i'm sure he still has his moments but meeting Aerith and Zack again and getting closure helped heal the fissures. Basically Advent children was a movie about a marriage in crisis and by the end of the movie they've reconciled. 


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Posted 04 January 2020 - 09:44 PM

A bit ironic, considering site where we disscusing this.

Lol. So ARE WE still arguing for NaruSaku, saying NaruHina Sucks and NH fans can burn in a bonfire etc. etc.? I'm not at the very least. I just revel in the fact NH won and their fans are STILL not happy. :kukuku:

In any Case I look forward to the game, since I never played the original personally


Edited by Phantom_999, 07 January 2020 - 10:57 PM.

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