Niky

 

I learn about this recently; O’Sullivan’s Law.

 

From the urban dictionary: "O’Sullivan’s Law states that any organization or enterprise that is not expressly right wing will become left wing over time. The law is named after British journalist John O’Sullivan.

 

Television shows are the best examples of this. 24, House. Charitable foundations are worse but harder to see.

 

One of the reasons for this is leftist intolerance versus right-wing tolerance. Right wingers are willing to hire openly left-wing employees in the interest of fairness. Left-wingers, utterly intolerant, will not allow a non-Liberal near them, and will harass them at every opportunity. The result over time is that conservative enterprises are infiltrated by leftists but leftist enterprises remain the same or get worse.

 

Also, leftism is in and of itself a form of decay. It’s what happens not just to television shows but to nations, churches and universities as the energy given off by the big bang of their inception slowly ebbs away. Rather than expend vitality in originality and creation they become obsessed with introspection, popularity and lethargy. Leftism is entropy of the spirit and intellect.

 

Another reason is that the parasitic nature of Liberals/Leftists attracts them to existing money.

 

An enterprise can stave off O'Sullivan's Law if their creators keep it in mind and remain vigilant and truthful.

O'Sullivan's Law hit 24 when they finally had a Muslim villain then started running disclaimers that Muslims aren't all terrorists.

 

The Annenberg Foundation was started by a Republican but it didn't take long before O'Sullivan's Law had them handing a domestic terrorist money for educating kids.

 

The ACLU, the Ford Foundation and the Episcopal Church all fell to O’Sullivan’s Law"

 

Now I know some of you will be offend by being lumped together with conservatives but this does fit. Any site that is not inherently NarutoXSakura supporting will become nH overtime. This was because NS fans were generally fine with the story and didn't feel the need to change it. While the radical nH fans would not accept any ending except the one where nH happened. So, they became active in trying to gain control of the fanbase as well as putting themselves into places of power and influence, while silencing all that opposed them. While those that were silence either keep quite, express their opinions on site like this, or leave the fanbase all together. Slowly turning they became the face of the American fanbase, and therefor the international fanbase.

 

This is what the Analyzer wanted to do on this site. She first created an account in order to start moderating our opinion into a less pro NS supporting stance with her post, while also cosying up to one of the admins in order to get an admin position herself through her cozening; I think you can all guess the one she was going after. After that she would have used her cozen position to both ban those that refuse to bend, and find away to have her friends to also become admins in order to consolidate even more power to their group. Eventually they would have turned a site that exist for fans that supported NS into just another nH/SS site.

 

Depending how you look at it I would have been her initial or primary target. I was doing unflattering summaries of both the manga, and the anime at the time. Also, I probably earned her ire when I refused to stop using fat filler as a nickname for...chowchow? After that she would have gotten someone in her group to replace me, and start doing glowing review of both. If anyone complained they'd threaten to ban them.

 

Exactly what happened in Italian Narusaku forum.

Now it no longer exists... having become a NaruHina and Sasusaku's nest... 

Very interesting law... I will keep it in mind.

New chapter! A Voice in the Wind - Akatsuki's Assassin 

I love this story!! I was so worried when the Naruto's ending came out: I feared you would drop it!

Luckily, I was wrong!

@Tricksie

Your considerations make me remember why, at Naruto's end, I was more sympathetic and open-minded for Sakura than for Naruto.

Furthermore, if the Last' story is canon, Sakura has never fallen in love with Naruto because her first impression of him was correct: his always getting in the way of her love was for a RIVALRY GAME with Sasuke.

Hence, the first reason to hate her should crash.

But her haters are more alive than before! WHY???

And, a my little consideration about the Hinata love...

The Naruto Italian Fanbase, as I understand it, regards the Naruto's end as 'horrible'.

BUT they are the biggest fans of Naruto's wife choice.

I kindly note that this is not connected to Naruto's love for her (indeed, it almost like they think he doesn't love her) but to her money, social standing, blind devotion and love to HIM (inclusive of crazy high tolerance to his bad habit)... Oh, and let's no forget the big boobs!

These things added value to a relationship! To hell with the love for a woman!

At least, they are honest...

P.S. I was thinking where I'd last seen this reversal main heroine - secondary heroine... At the moment I just remember Macross Frontier. But it's done better.

Hello guys, are you well ?

Yeah, I am not a big HP fan at all, but I feel like Rowling had no clue how to do romance. Those pairings had kitten-all going for them. Even Harry with the Asian girl would have been better.

 

It's like writers go out of their way not to do main x main even when it would obviously work out for the best. Why shouldn't the most significant female character be the one to stand by the hero? They're going to have the most experiences together as a matter of course.

 

Hermione was obviously the one who connected to Harry the most. There wasn't any indication that she loved him but there was nothing like that with Ron either until what, book 7? Nor were their interactions really good at all. Their childish arguing actually brought out the worst aspects of both characters, while both of them were obviously great towards Harry. It just seems like Rowling decided it arbitrarily because she didn't know how to write romance, sort of like Toriyama's pairings in Dragon Ball. Not that any of these even compare to the travesty that is NaruSaku not happening, but yeah.

On the contrary, I think this was an editorial choice in Harry Potter’s Books.

Harry is THE ABSOLUTE PROTAGONIST, the only HERO.

Everything in the books is meant to exist in relation to him.

So, Ron is the HARRY’s best friend, Cho Chang is the HARRY’s first, transient, experience of love; Hermione is the HARRY’s conscience and wisdom; Dumbledore is HARRY’s mentor; Draco is the HARRY’s bug (not enemy); Ginny is the HARRY’s girl; Voldemort is the HARRY’s evil enemy… etc. etc.

Every character cannot and must not exceed its limit, overcome the protagonist, evolve itself to top (Ron and Draco are emblematic of this).

Two are the exceptions: Hermione and Snape.

Frankly, on Harry/Hermione pairing and its fandom Rowling coasted until the end (and I was a Ron/Hermione shipper, but not happy with the ending outcome…) but Hermione, with this editorial scripting, didn’t have a chance to become HEROINE, namely an equal to Harry.

Snape was a possible dangerous rival for Harry’s popularity (in the adult fandom only) and I think it was difficult keep him and his interesting story and background at bay.

And don’t get me started on the Gryffindor glorification… It seemed the only house present in Hogwarts (because it’s the PROTAGONIST’s house). Slytherin was remembered more like its enemy and rival than other (I loved so much Hufflepuff...).

Mah!

@Nate this is the movie. It is just copy paste scenes from the movie. Bolt apparently uses everyone. He not just using Sasuke to get back at his dad. He also had to used Konohamaru in order to be able to use Sasuke as a tool by making konohamru teach him the rasengan.

Good kid... He takes after his mother after all.

But seriously, the supposed NAruto's death, Konoha's destruction, Boruto's brattiness, Salad's coolness (and to me she is Karin's daughter, I am sure now... ), Hinata's no-bobbies, etc.etc... are not a problem...

'Everything will be all right in the end'... THIS IS THE PROBLEM!!!!

Scattered toughts:

• The only redeeamble Hinata's trait (the boobs) is gone...
• If I did a manga in such a way I'd get kicked out of workplace then and there!
• At the Sasuke's apparition I was: "Uh? What is Severus Snape doing here?

But seriously, how is it possibile to make Hinata and Himawari even UGLIER?!?

That's odd, because last time I saw about tsundere, I see like couple of them being top 3.

The tsundere female type is NOT a problem as long as she is horny for the male protagonist (read: average male reader's avatar)...

I got a questions for you guys : If you were in Naruto Position will you tell Sakura the truth about the bench scene or you will do the same like Naruto and forever keep until you die??

The 'final' Naruto obviously cares more about Sasuke than Sakura... So he forgot the bench scene.

The 'final' Sakura obviously cares more about Sasuke than Naruto... So telling the truth about the bench scene would be pointless. Better to forget it.

@Dinodude

Welcome aboard...

And, if you wonder about db84x, don't mind him. He's our personal, bored, Naruhina Hinata troll...

@rocci

My friend...

The problem with that is that modern women are generally more like Sakura then Hinata. So finding a girl like Hinata in modern day is normally a fantasy. 

It'a fantasy only because if a modern (or any time) woman was like Hinata would be abandoned three months from marriage. Yes, because the marriage would be such a bore...

Hinata is a 'lovely' girl in the fantasy world only.

Her male fans too wouldn't stand her in the real world (unless her dull - sorry, modest - behaviour was a cunning, fake, strategic behavioral - To play the idiot not to go at war, basically).

About the Yamato Nadeshiko (or Baifumei) trope...

Sorry, she is NOT in this trope... because she is really ugly (Nardo, however, is uglier than her ). It's only SP that makes her beautiful.  

About the traditional Japanese sexism...

It's not that the japanese males are all sexist (if you want to see TRUE sexism go to read shoujo mangas )... The Shonen Jump and SP's workers, they are.

More clearly, they don't want a weak woman... They want a NOT PROBLEMATIC WOMAN.

Too busy with work to bother with dates or to build a relationship, they want a woman who takes all responsibility.

A woman who keeps the home neat, takes care of children, doesn't complain.

Who is dedicated and loyal, loving (SHE loving THEM, of course) and tolerant. 

A woman pure and young-looking but a sex's bomb when they are in THE mood.

And, lastly, a woman of good standing and wealthy.

Pretty much the lazy and useless men's dream.   

But then again, it's only a fantasy.

They will never get it (and they KNOW). 

That's why they wouldn't take a NO in Naruto's manga.

@NeonRanger

Sakura's behaviour and feelings are all over the place because they are NOT the result of a character 'development' or of a 'literary plan'.

They are the result of a marketing plan.

Copy and paste my quote from another thread

Judging from the latest interviews and news I think it happened this way (pretty much):

• Kishi wants to leave Naruto.
• SJ doesn’t want let him (too much money lost) but instead plans for a next series (Boruto).
• The Kishi’s assistant (Hinata’s fanatic – Sakura’s hater) comes forward and takes over on condition that Naruto’s love, in the end, is Hinata *COUGHbeggarCOUGH*.
• SJ keeps Kishi as counselor (with associated service charges).
• Kishi says YES and sells Naruto.
• We (fandom, literary logic, story, characters) are screwed.
• The end.

Judging from the latest interview and news I think it happened this way (pretty much):

• Kishi wants to leave Naruto.
• SJ doesn’t want let him (too much money lost) but instead plans for a next series (Boruto).
• The Kishi’s assistant (Hinata’s fanatic – Sakura’s hater) comes forward and takes over on condition that Naruto’s love, in the end, is Hinata *COUGHbeggarCOUGH*.
• SJ keeps Kishi as counselor (with associated service charges).
• Kishi says YES and sells Naruto.
• We're screwed.
• The end.

You're thinking of otaku is that of what western fans have turned that term into. ie the Japanese word for nerd and geeks. What it really means is basically pathetic loser that are a drain upon society. And in a country and a culture that believes putting society's interest entirely before a single person. That's a bad thing.

 

Also if you start using character in anime that proudly proclaim they are otaku as an example that not the case. One that an attempt to please the otkaus so they purchase the stories products. Two they still write them as complete weridos and losers they just use it as an attempt at humor through the otaku's oddities or they should be proud because of their uniqueness. Three some writer may also be otakus so of course they try to make them look better and better perceived in their stories then they are actually in real life.

@DGM

You think 'Otaku' = Passionate about manga, anime and Japan...

But this is a wrong translation of the Japanese word made from the American side.  The japanese word doesn't mean it.

The otakus are NOT just nerds or enthusiasts....

They are more like addicted to drugs. They have no life apart their interests.

What is worse they often merge what they actually saw in manga with real life, with all the drifts which this creates.

Wonder why Sarada went through changes in all different form of story...

It's because they don't know what to do with her... Other than fanservice and breeding, I guess...

A little question:

How can THE SAME PERSON say that the expression “A woman’s body was designed to give birth” is wrong and THEN ship Naruhina and Sasusaku? 

No, seriously... It rather seems like a contradiction in terms.