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#9421 trang95

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Posted 11 March 2015 - 06:36 PM

Thanks!:D

Welcome back! Another very active thread is the Random thread btw.

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#9422 elmas

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Posted 11 March 2015 - 06:40 PM

Welcome back! Another very active thread is the Random thread btw.

Thanks!

I think there's nothing left to talk about this fiasco.That money lover author just wanted money so he did that creepy ending.I'm still a Naruto fan but for me Naruto isn't completed.


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#9423 Nar123

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Posted 11 March 2015 - 06:41 PM

Umm yeah.I was so shocked at the ending  so I stopped posting.But now I'm back. :excited:

 

 

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Always glad when people come back   :pimp:


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#9424 elmas

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Posted 11 March 2015 - 06:42 PM

 

 

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Always glad when people come back   :pimp:

Yeah! :kukuku:  :w00t:


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Posted 11 March 2015 - 06:43 PM

Hello there!!  :wave:


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Posted 11 March 2015 - 06:44 PM

Hello there!!  :wave:

Hello!

I'm glad that people still visit this forum!It's soooo good to be here!


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Posted 11 March 2015 - 06:45 PM

Hello!
I'm glad that people still visit this forum!It's soooo good to be here!

It's good to see you too.

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Posted 11 March 2015 - 06:46 PM

It's good to see you too.

Thanks!


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Posted 11 March 2015 - 06:50 PM

I kind of went overboard with my last post. Sorry. Lol.

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Posted 11 March 2015 - 06:57 PM

Thanks! :D

Welcome back my daughter nice to have you still around XD 

Welcome back! Another very active thread is the Random thread btw.

You want her to have a mental brain damage !?  :wot:


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#9431 hinataiscreepy

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Posted 11 March 2015 - 06:57 PM

Samurai champloo is so vastly Superior to naruto in every way.

 

The bromance is more subtle and they really become friends without being obvious.



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Posted 11 March 2015 - 07:01 PM

Don't worry, I'm terrible about forgetting to review too. And I'm an author! You'd think I'd remember every time. Not so! lol! So I never worry about whether someone does or doesn't they could be just like me and flake out a bit at the end.
 
And yes, I wonder too about how many people were discourage, disappointed or just feeling burnt in general by the ending and that's turned them off from the fandom. And the rabid wave of NH/SS shippers after the ending didn't help either. I'm sure that played just as big a part in turning away fans.
 
It took me a while to get back to being comfortable with my fanfics again. Honestly, I was really afraid I might feel so burnt I might just drop it. Plenty of writers and artists already have. But there was solace in the fact that it wasn't just NS that was overturned. It was every theme, every character, everything I originally liked about the story that was thrown out the window. That took the sting out. It wasn't just a snub to NS, it was the unraveling of the whole story. 
 
So after the initial shock wore off, then I realized that I had to finish my stories just to give myself some closure. I have never been super crazy about the manga or anime, yet I always hoped the themes that were there would be explored. But they weren't. (I started reading just before the Pain arc, and after it ended was excited to see what was going to come next. If only I'd known!) So the fanfics have been the best thing I've gotten out of the series, which has helped me improve my writing, while fixing things in the plot I wished they'd show. And I couldn't let the go unfinished. 
 
Kishimoto might have botched the ending of his work, but that didn't mean that I had to botch mine!
 
Lol - sorry for the LAP! An upside to all of this is that there's a lot more NS fics and arts out there than there've been in the last few years. And I hope that as things continue to settle down that more people will be inspired to write, create art or finish the works they started.

One of the more interesting things to me is that in light of Kishi utterly destroying every aspect of his story with the ending is that it gave a green light for writers to create the Naruto world anew in their own image, instead of trying to stick closely to the canon. The ending shed light on the fact that Kishi was a great window dresser, from the outside it looks like he established this fantastic looking world. But if you take a closer look, there were so many inconsistencies and glaring holes underneath the surface. Take for instance the 5 villages. Were any of them outside of Konoha remotely relevant? What about their leaders? Outside of Gaara and Tsunade, what did Ay, Ohnoki, and Mei actually do? What were their roles? Ohnoki briefly got a small amount of depth, but for the most part, the political relations amongst the villages were just glossed over. What about the history of the Shinobi world? What actually happened during the wars? We have tidbits here and there, as well as prominent figures, but the wars themselves were just glossed over as well. We never get a reason for why the nations were in a struggle, nor what interests were being fought over, we just are asked to accept that certain problems exist.

What about internal politics? Were still not entirely sure how the leaf operated, we just had a vague idea. What about relationships? One of the things i lamented about the war arc as it moved on is that Naruto and Hashirama never once interacted. Really? Forget about the reincarnation crap, Naruto and Hashirama were kindred spirits even without that. Naruto and Hashirama were so alike, so good and pure, but they don't even talk? Naruto is the torch bearer for Hashirama's ideals, and Hashirama doesn't even face him, give him word of encouragement, a pat on the back, a hand ruffling his hair, or even a simple "I'm proud of you." Naruto doesn't even get one word, yet Sasuke gets to have a talk with the God of Shinobi himself? Sasuke was going to destroy everything Hashirama stood for, yet Naruto, the one whose dream it was to surpass everything Hashirama and his successors ever dreamed of gets shunned to the side? Ridiculous.

If anything, as a writer and a reader, Kishi's spectacular implosion of his world has helped make me gain even more of a critical eye towards other works as well as my own. I've been able to look at other works like OP and TG and appreciate the complexity and depth of their worlds, as Naruto lacked that depth and complexity. I've had so many new ideas on how to improve on the world and the way it's built in my fic, so I guess that's a plus for this miserable ending, I just have to find the motivation to write lol

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#9433 elmas

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Posted 11 March 2015 - 07:08 PM

Welcome back my daughter nice to have you still around XD 

You want her to have a mental brain damage !?  :wot:

Oto-san! :excited: Missed you so much!

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Posted 11 March 2015 - 07:10 PM

Wow a new thread...
I should've visited the site more often. :sweat:

Yo! Welcome back :D
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Posted 11 March 2015 - 07:14 PM

Yo! Welcome back :D

Thanks! :D

 

 

 

 

 

And bye!Lol :P


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Posted 11 March 2015 - 07:15 PM

Welcome back my daughter nice to have you still around XD 
You want her to have a mental brain damage !?  :wot:

I survived the thread XD

G . I . N . T . A . M .A

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Posted 11 March 2015 - 07:18 PM

Oto-san! :excited: Missed you so much!

:cry:

Missed you to  :hug:  How's college for you hard enough !? .

I survived the thread XD

Barely  :chuckle: .


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Posted 11 March 2015 - 07:19 PM

Hello!

I'm glad that people still visit this forum!It's soooo good to be here!

 

Hello, and welcome back!


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Posted 11 March 2015 - 07:26 PM

Missed you to  :hug:  How's college for you hard enough !? .

Barely  :chuckle: .

Awww oto-sama! :umm:

 

 

Hello, and welcome back!

Thanks!

 

 

 

Anyways guys,thank you all!

I am going but I'll be back again!Sayanora! :smile:


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Posted 11 March 2015 - 07:29 PM

Awww oto-sama! :umm:

 

Thanks!

 

Anyways guys,thank you all!

I am going but I'll be back again!Sayanora! :smile:

 I'll burn it to the ground if they torture you  :hm: .

 

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