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[pinkheartsyellowstars]

Raikage knows Taijutsu! anyways, no narusaku moment..

[Cloud]

Is there a technical name for the arm bands that the Raikage is using in combat (besides "metal ring thingys")?
I know it is a staple of martial arts movies, but I don't recall what they are named.

I was thinking that rather than Naruto using talk-no-jutsu on the Raikage, he needs to challenge him to an arm wrestling match. And just before it starts, Naruto can use rhinoceros-juggling sage-mode.

Iron Ring Martial Arts

Enjoy.

(Martial arts fanatic)

[RedDelicious]

Iron Ring Martial Arts

Enjoy.

(Martial arts fanatic)

Thanks for the link.
When I saw the scan of Raikage in action, I was thinking of "Kung Fu Hustle" (mentioned in Wiki article).

Hmm... Now I want to see a scene where Guy and Rock Lee are patting themselves on the back on how hard they are working out, just in time for the Raikage to go storming by.

[Dreamer]

Naruto Fan Spoiler Thread

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Part 1

止まらないサスケ！
Unstoppable Sasuke!

正面から雷影へ…！！
He heads to Raikage from the front!

走り出すサスケ
Sasuke starts running

重吾『サスケ！一人で突っ込むな！』（冷静さを欠いてる）
Juugo: "Sasuke, don't go in by yourself!" (He's losing his composure)

サスケ、刀を抜き雷影の前に
Sasuke pulls out his sword in front of the Raikage

ダルイ、水遁・水陣壁！！
Darui- Suiton Suijinheki!

461　雲隠れvs鷹
461: Kumogakure vs. Taka

サスケ　（こいつか！）
Sasuke: (This guy!)

シー　印を結んで　雷遁・感激波！！
C forms seals- Raiton Kangekiha!!

水と雷混ざってサスケに当たるもサスケ元気。
The water and lightning mix together to hit Sasuke, though he's fine

ダルイ『ボス…こいつ情報通り雷性質に間違いないみたいっすね』
Darui: "Boss...Just as the intelligence says, it seems there's no mistake about this guy's lightning nature"

シー『それに火も持ってる　直に火遁を使うだろう
…ダルイ水遁の用意は常にしとけ』
C: "And he carries fire. He should soon use Katon....Darui, keep your Suiton handy"

ダルイ『ああ…』
Darui: "Ok"

雷、握りこぶしして立ってる体中雷に包まれてる
The Raikage stands with a clenched fist and lightning coursing around his body

影から見てる水月『何かサスケの情報漏れちゃってない？』
Suigetsu looks from the shadows: "Sasuke's info wasn't leaked out, was it?"

カリン『おい…アレ…中央のあいつ…アレってまさか』
Karin: "Hey...that guy in the middle...no way"

重吾『こいつらは雲隠れの上忍…中央のでかいのが雷影だ
簡単には通してもらえない』
Juugo: "These guys are Kumogakure Jounin. The big one in the middle is the Raikage. Suffice to say, they won't be just letting us through"

影から見てる侍、無線にて『応援を頼む　サスケにやられた』
From the shadows watching, a samurai talks in his radio: "Requesting aid. We've been wiped out by Sasuke"

Part 2


シー　印を結び　（動きを止める！）
C forms seals (I'll stop their movements!)

重吾『何かくる！』
Juugo: "Something's coming!"

シー『雷幻雷光柱！』ライゲンライコウチュウ
C: "Raigen Raikouchuu!"

周りが光る
The surroundings turn to light

重吾（目くらましか！？）『！』
Juugo: (A blinder!?) !

目くらましされてる間に雷サスケにパンチ
While they're blinded, Raikage goes to punch Sasuke

ヒット！　地面にめり込むサスケ
A hit! Sasuke is sent to the floor

重吾『サスケ…！』
Juugo: "Sasuke!"

サスケ『重吾　ひるむな　これは幻術だ』
Sasuke: "Don't fear, Juugo. This is genjutsu"

シー（やるなあ　写輪眼）
C: (The Sharingan's real good...)

サスケ膝立ち～　雷『幻術を見抜いたとしても遅いわ！』
Sasuke's lifting himself up on his knee~
Raikage: "You were slow in seeing through that genjutsu!"

雷はパンチ　ダルイは刀をサスケに振り下ろす～が
水月が止める。水月の刀折れる。。。
Raikage punches and Darui swings his sword down to Sasuke...but Suigetsu stops it. His sword breaks...

水月　サスケ　重吾　避ける
Suigetsu, Sasuke, and Juugo elude them

水月『ボクが水じゃなけりゃ　両腕もげてるよアレ…！
あ～～くっそー！ボクの首斬り包丁がアア！！』
Suigetsu: "If I wasn't water, that woulda ripped my arms off! Ahh kitten! My Head Cleaver!"

重吾『八尾の時　切れ目を入れられていたからな』
Juugo: "It's because it was cut from that time with the 8-tails"

雷　ピクン　と反応
sfx*Pikun* reaction from Raikage

Part 3

ダルイ『…』
Darui: "..."

隠れてるカリン『た…助かった…！水月ナイス！』
Karin, who's hiding: "H-He was saved...! Nice job, Suigetsu!"

サスケ『お前ら余計なことを』
Sasuke: "Save your breath, guys"

水月『せっかく助けに出てきてやってのにさ…
何だよ　その言い草…！君らしいけど…』
Suigetsu: "Even though I came out to save you, that counts for nothing then...what the hell kinda remark is that?! Then again that is just like you so..."

影から戦いを見てる侍（忍とは雑な戦いをする…
なんて奴らだ！）
Samurai watching the battle from the shadows: (Such a crude battle the shinobi do...they're quite something!)

ダルイ『シー　他に仲間がいるのか辺りを調べてみろよ
次々に出てこられちゃ　だるくてやってらんねー』
Darui: "C, check out the vicinity to see whether or not they have other companions. We'll be too tired to beat them if they come come out one by one"

シー『確かもう一人いたはず…
…しかしそっちに集中すると戦闘には参加しにくいんだが』
C: "There should be one more out there...but it's difficult to focus on that and partake in this battle here"

ダルイ『お前はいらねーよ　ボスとオレでやっからさ』
Darui: "We don't need you here. Boss and I will take care of it"

隠れてるカリン（ヤバイ…！このままダンゾウを捜してたら
あのシーってのに見つかっちまう！　ここは一旦チャクラを消すしかない）
Karin who's hiding: (This is not good! If I continue searching for Danzou, that C guy will find me out! Guess I'll have to turn my chakra off for the moment)

水月『カリンにはダンゾウの居場所を捜させてたのに…これじゃ無理だね
あいつチャクラを消すよ　たぶん…　そういう能力だから』
Suigetsu: "Aw and Karin was finding out where Danzou was for us too...guess that's impossible now. She'll turn off her chakra...probably. That is among her special abilities after all"

重吾『後ろの男（シー）は探知タイプだな…　倒すしかない…
オレがやる』
Juugo: "The guy in the back © is a sense-type...He'll need to be taken care of. I'll do it"

重吾呪印２へ
Juugo turns to curse seal 2

会談場
Conference

オキスケ『青殿…火影の瞳術が　まだ継続中か確認していただきたい』
Okisuke: "Ao-dono, we would like to make sure you are still maintaining the Hokage's doujutsu"

青『イヤ…今は経絡系のチャクラの流れもおだやかだ　術は解いている』
Ao: "No...right now, the flow of his keiraku-ken [inner-coils] is calm. The jutsu is cancelled"

ダンゾウ『安心しろ　日にそう何度も使える瞳術ではない』
Danzou: "Be easy. It's not a doujutsu I can use often in a day"

青『それはこちらで判断する　アンタは信用できない男だからな』
Ao: "I'll be the one judging that. You're not a guy who's exactly trustworthy"

ダンゾウ『まさか白眼が他に漏れていたとはな…　木の葉の日向の
裏切者なら　すぐに殺していた』
Danzou: “I wouldn’t have thought the Byakugan would have been leaked out to another village…If you had been a traitor of the Hyuuga of Konoha I we would have killed you immediately.”

ガーラ『…』
Gaara: "..."

土　赤　黒　ダンゾウを見てる
Tsuchikage, Akatsuchi, and Kurotsuchi look at Danzou

Part 4

青『アンタの秘密を知ったオレは　いづれ処理するつもりで
いるんだろうが　そうはいかんぞ』
Ao: “You are probably planning to take care of me one day now that I know your secret but don’t think it’ll be that easy.”

水『その時は私が戦う
四代目水影を操っていた術と瞳力…何か関係あるかもしれないからね』
Mizukage: “When that time comes I’ll be the one to fight….Especially since it/he probably had something to do with the technique and eye power that was controlling the 4th Mizukage.”

ダンゾウ　ダンマリ
Danzou doesn't say anything

ミフネ『火影殿…ここでは忍術は御法度
信用を欠いてしまったな…こんな手を使わずとも
拙者はアナタに決めたやもしぬのに…』
Mifune: "Hokage-dono, ninjutsu is forbidden here. You have broken our trust. And to think that without showing this kind of hand, you were the one I likely would have decided on..."

ダンゾウ『やもしれぬのでは困るのだ
ワシは忍の世界を守るために　どんな手でも使うつもりだ
この世界は一つになるべきなのだ　かつて初代火影柱間が
一族をまとめて里を作ったように　今度は里をまとめ
忍世界を一つにする　話し合いで　この忍の世界が
一つになることはない…時間をかけて道徳的にやっていては
何も変わらん　いずれ”暁”に忍世界を潰されてしまうだろう』
Danzou: "'Likely' is the problem. I intend to use whatever hand I have in order to protect the shinobi world. This world is meant to be one; Once, the Shodai Hokage, Hashirama, gathered the clans to create a village. This time we gather the villages for a meeting in making the shinobi world one whole, when the only thing it does is the opposite. Nothing changes when we waste time doing things morally. All of which will lead to "Akatsuki" crushing the shinobi world"

土『理想を実現するには時間がかかるもんじゃぜ
焦れば周りが見えず　失敗を引き起こす…今のお前だ
まあ所詮そんな理想は無理な話じゃぜ！
よかれと思っても　結果　不信を生み　わだかまりを生み
憎しみを生む　　　ダンゾウ…今はお前の言ってることすら
信用できん』
Tsuchikage: "Dreams take time to materialize. If you get impatient, you'll miss what's around you and cause a huge blunder...which is where you're at right now. And after all, it IS an impossible dream! Even if you have good intentions, the only outcome would be giving birth to distrust, ill will, and hatred. Danzou...right now I can't even trust what you say"

ダンゾウ『信用があろうとなかろうと…結果は必要だ』
Danzou: "The end result is a necessity... whether there is trust or not"

ガーラ　父親と幼少ガーラ思い出す
Gaara has a flashback his young self and his father

ガーラ『それが世界　それが人間だとするなら未来はないな
分かち合う事　信じること…　…それをやめたら世界に残るのは
恐怖だけだ』
Gaara: "If that's what the world is, if that's what people are, then there is no future left for us. Sharing with one another, believing in each other... ...If we stop doing those things, the only thing this world will have left is fear"

ガーラ、ナルトを思い出す
Gaara remembers Naruto

ガーラ『道徳を考慮しないやり方やあきらめは今のオレにとって
受け入れがたいものになった』
Gaara: "To me, doing things without considering the morality would be giving up. That's no longer acceptable"

土『難しい事を簡単に言うのう…里を治める事をまだ何も知らぬガキが…
今のうち聞きたい事があったら何でも質問しろ
先輩として何でも答えよう…のうダンゾウ…ククク』
Tsuchikage: "You say such difficult things so simply... you still know nothing about managing a village, kid. Now if there's anything you wanna hear from (me/us) just ask. As your senpai, anything will be answered...right Danzou...hehehe"

カンクロウ『何だとジジイ！！』
Kankurou: "What the hell, you geezer!"

テマリ『よせカンクロウ！これでも土影…里の長だぞ！』
Temari: "Quit it Kankurou! It doesn't look like it but he's the Tsuchikage, the village head!"

ガーラ『…なら一つだけ問う』
Gaara: "...If that's the case...then I'd like to ask one thing"

土『ああ！なんでも答えてやるぞ…若造』
Tsuchikage: "Yes, yes! I'll answer anything for you...squirt"

ガーラ『アンタ達は　いつ己を捨てた？』
Gaara: "When did you all throw away who you were... like trash?"

土『！！』
Tsuchikage: "!"

水（純粋な子…）
Mizukage: (He's an honest kid...)

Part 5

テマリ『さてガーラ私らはどうする？』
Temari: "So Gaara, what are we gonna do?"

カンクロウ『へっ！』
Kankurou: "Heh!"

ガーラ『…　うちは…サスケか』
Gaara: "...Uchiha...Sasuke, eh"

黒『じじい一本とられたな』
Kurotsuchi: "He got you good on that one, old man"

土『うるさいわい！』
Tsuchikage: "Shut up!"

赤『土影様…ワイらどうするだに？戦闘しに行くだか？』
Akatsuchi: "Tsuchikage-sama...what should we do? Are we going to battle?"

土『アホ！腰痛が悪化したらどうするんじゃぜ！』
Tsuchikage: "Idiot! And whaddya think will happen if I aggravate my back? Huh!?"

黒『アタイはデイダラ兄をやったっていうサスケが見たい！』
Kurotsuchi: "I wanna see the guy you said beat Deidara-nii*, [big brother] Sasuke!"

土『…好きにせい！ただし雷影に巻き込まれたら死んでしまう
手はだすな』
Tsuchikage: "...Do what you want! However, if you get caught up by the Raikage, you'll end up dead. Don't interfere"

黒『よっしゃ！赤ツチはどうする！？』
Kurotsuchi: "Alright! What are you gonna do, Akatsuchi?!"

赤『ワイは土影様の腰に何かあったらいけねーから
一緒にいあるだ』
Akatsuchi: "l'll need to be by Tsuchikage's side if he needs anything"

フー、ダンゾウに小声で『ダンゾウ様　写輪眼の回収のため
我々のどちらかを下へ（サスケのところ）行かせてください』
Fuu whispers to Danzou: "Danzou-sama, please relieve one of us (to Sasuke's place) in order to retrieve the Sharingan"

青『アンタ達木の葉はそのままでいてもらおう
雷影に　そう託された』
Ao: "We'll have all of you from Konoha right where you are. The Raikage entrusted me with that"

フー　トルネ構えるがダンゾウに止められる
Fuu and Torune take a fighting stance but they are stopped by Danzou

重吾呪印解放
Juugo has released his seal

『グハハハハハ　ぶっ殺してやらア！！
アッハアー！！！！』
"GUHAHAHAHAHA I'm gonna kill you! AHHAAA!!"

ダルイ『見た目よりもその性格の変わりようがすごいな…コイツ…』
Darui: The change in personality from what we just saw is amazing...this guy.."

シー『集中しろ！こいつとんでもないチャクラしてやがるぞ！！』
C: "Focus! This guy has an insane amount of chakra!"

水月、サスケに『ついに殺人衝動バリバリ自分から出しちゃったよ重吾のやつ
ボクらの事　味方って理解できてんのかな？』
Suigetsu to Sasuke: "So Juugo finally broke out the murderous rage. You think he understands we're his allies?"

雷、すごい顔で『図にのるなアアア！！！！』
Raikage with a scary face: "Don't push your luck!!"

雷影血眼！
Raikage in a frenzy!

本格開戦！！
An outbreak of a serious war!

終わり！サーセイ★
Finished! Saasei

Godaime Mizukage: "The time I fought Yondaime Mizukage, there was a jutsu that controlled him, an eye power... there's probably some connection there after all"

Man I didn't realize Godaime Mizukage was that strong.

Kurotsuchi: "I wanna see the guy you said beat Deidara-nii*, [big brother] Sasuke!"

It also seems Kurotsuchi the female guard with Tsuchikage was Deidara's younger sister. She now wants revenge on Sasuke as well.

Fuu whispers to Danzou: "Danzou-sama, please relieve one of us (to Sasuke's place) in order to retrieve the Sharingan"

So, Danzou wanted to kill Sasuke and steal his Sharingan to give himself another Sharingan hax upgrade.

Edited by Uzumakikage, 27 August 2009 - 02:12 PM.

[RedDelicious]

Gaara: "When did you all throw away who you were... like trash?"

Interesting progression by Gaara, from homicidal maniac to ultra-cool genius.
Too bad Sasuke is took the reverse path.

[Sir Whirly]

Man I didn't realize Godaime Mizukage was that strong.



It also seems Kurotsuchi the female guard with Tsuchikage was Deidara's younger sister. She now wants revenge on Sasuke as well.



So, Danzou wanted to kill Sasuke and steal his Sharingan to give himself another Sharingan hax upgrade.

Of course. Everyone wants the Sharingan hax. Its teh epic.

[Cloud]

Of course. Everyone wants the Sharingan hax. Its teh epic.

It's catnip for the ninja world. :zaru

[Nate River]

Of course. Everyone wants the Sharingan hax. Its teh epic.

Yes, we all do. I stole mine yesterday.

Danzou: "I can't really believe the Byakugan would be passed along to another...if any Hyuuga of Konoha would turn traitor, they'd soon be killed"

Uh huh. That's not what happened the last time someone did something like that.

[Freakazoid]

Gaara's words are very much up in the air. Does he plan on going to kick Sasuke's ass or to try and talk him out of all this?

So many different ways all this could play out.

[Dreamer]

With Kurotsuchi now wanting revenge on Sasuke for killing her older brother Deidara and including everyone else (except Naruto/Sakura/Kakashi, not sure of how Gaara feels yet, he probably doesn't care about Sasuke) practically wants Sasuke dead. Sasuke might as well start burying his own grave.

If Kishi really wants Sasuke alive, Naruto and his Peace Talk No Jutsu sure does have it cut out for him this time.

[Cloud]

With Kurotsuchi now wanting revenge on Sasuke for killing her older brother Deidara.

I'm pretty sure they're not related. She probably just calls him big brother. "Onii-chan or onii-sama" is big brother.

And it doesn't say anywhere that she wants revenge. She probably just wants to see the man that killed Deidara, to see what all the noise in the world about him is so enticing.

[Dreamer]

I'm pretty sure they're not related. She probably just calls him big brother. "Onii-chan or onii-sama" is big brother.

And it doesn't say anywhere that she wants revenge. She probably just wants to see the man that killed Deidara, to see what all the noise in the world about him is so enticing.

what does nii like in Deidara-nii mean in Japanese?

[desaix]

what does nii like in Deidara-nii mean in Japanese?

In this context...

'nii' means 'older brother.'

'nii-chan' means 'older brother' with a playful connotation.

'Onii' (not to be confused with 'Oni,' which is a form of Japanese demon\monster\spirit) means 'honorable older brother.' It would almost never be said that way, however, as it would be absolutely bizarre to refer to him as 'honorable' without also including some form of honorific; the same meaning would be 'onii-san.'

'Onii-chan' means 'honorable older brother' with a playful connotation. It is rarely used this way, however, unless you're skipping the name of said older brother. (for example, Deidara-nii-chan would be used; not Deidara-onii-chan. However, if the word 'Deidara' is not used, you might use the 'o' when speaking to someone other than your older brother)

'Onii-sama' means 'honorable older brother' with an obsequious connotation.

And, for the record, I have trouble with it, myself, since I am always mixing the root word 'nii' (older brother) with root word 'nee' (older sister), and have to look it up whenever I use it... (or I don't for the sake of expediency, and wind up getting corrected about twenty or thirty times for the same minor mistake when applying it in a fanfic. Or at least, that was the case when I was still actively posting new chapters of Training for the Job. If I ever get back to posting it again, I wonder if that will continue?)

Edited by desaix, 27 August 2009 - 06:50 AM.

[Dreamer]

Thanks for helping me out on learning Japanese Terms/meaning.

[Sherry]

So, there's one more people who wants Sasuke's death?
It must be hard for Naruto, I think he doesn't have to fight for Sasuke's life's sake. But, how about his PoL if he lets Sasuke die?
Guh, it seems difficult for me too, although I'm not Naruto...

[Dreamer]

Just a couple of minor translation corrections for an otherwise excellent translation job by Sho:

The conversation between Ao, Mizukage and Danzou should probably sound a bit more like this:

ダンゾウ『まさか白眼が他に漏れていたとはな…　木の葉の日向の裏切者なら　すぐに殺していた 』
Danzou: “I wouldn’t have thought the Byakugan would have been leaked out to another village…If you had been a traitor of the Hyuuga of Konoha I we would have killed you immediately.”

青『アンタの秘密を知ったオレは　いづれ処理するつもりでいるんだろうが　そうはいかんぞ』
Ao: “You are probably planning to take care of me one day now that I know your secret but don’t think it’ll be that easy.”

水『その時は私が戦う四代目水影を操っていた術と瞳力…何か関係あるかもしれないからね』
Mizukage: “When that time comes I’ll be the one to fight….Especially since it/he probably had something to do with the technique and eye power that was controlling the 4th Mizukage.”

a couple translation corrections were made by Pocketmofo at NF.

Man at this rate Danzou might as well just give the title of Hokage back to Tsunade or give it to Kakashi/Naruto since the other Kages know his secret and practically wants to kill him.

Edited by Uzumakikage, 27 August 2009 - 03:23 PM.

[Nadishani]

at this rate, sasuke's screwed. but i think something bad is going to happen to either juugo or raikage...which sucks, because i both like those characters. damn you sasuke!

and danzou's screwed too. it's more likely he'll get locked up now than ever becoming a leader. it's pretty logical if they're gonna replace him as a hokage too so team kakashi get yer asses to that kage-con.

on another note, it seems like Raikage & co are awesome fighters! and Raikage seems a great fighter and not that rash so that's good, not that i didn't expect him to be anything but greatness. <3

Edited by Nadishani, 27 August 2009 - 04:21 PM.

[shadow_Uzumaki]

Heh heh...Berserker Jugo vs. a somewhat similar Raikage.... It sounds epic!

[ciardha]

Interesting progression by Gaara, from homicidal maniac to ultra-cool genius.
Too bad Sasuke is took the reverse path.

Yeah, back in part 1 when the crazy train stopped for Gaara to get off, Sasuke got on.

Oh and on honorific familial titles:

nii/(o)niisan/(o)niichan older brother and nee/(o)neesan/(o)neechan (sama is not really used in real life in Japan for either siblings or parents- grandparents possibly, if they are the head of a company, from old money, or from a family that pre the 1946 constitution would have been an old noble family- in 1946 titles were abolished except for the immediate family of the emperor.) can be used as a generic polite form for someone older than you that's not old enough to be your parents . Kishimoto has used it in Naruto already, remember in the Pain arc Ino called Shizune, Shizune neechan. Using nee (older sister) form. oneesan is the most formal form, it gives a vibe of formal respectful distance, oneechan is slightly informal but still gives the vibe of repect but with a bit more warmth, neesan is formal and distanting but less so than oneesan, it's the most commonly used generic form for a nonrelative of that age range to yourself. Neechan is informal and gives a vibe of a warm connection. To use nee alone without san or chan though is slightly rude, slightly insulting (same goes for Nii alone)

For someone your parents age or older up to your grandparents age, one uses the term aunt (oba) or uncle (oji). Naruto is being rude calling Tsunade baachan, because he is calling her grandmother when he should be using obachan (aunt) as Tsunade is only around a decade older than the Konoha 11 parents. Same level of formality in honorific applies to aunt and uncle as well.

Chiyo was old enough to be many of the adults grandparents, and even old enough to be Tsunade's mother (thus her still calling Tsunade "slug girl" even though she had been a grown woman for many years.) so even most of the adults addressing her as Chiyo baachan was perfectly polite.

[Dreamer]

Heh heh...Berserker Juugo vs. a somewhat similar Raikage.... It sounds epic!

We all know that Rulkaige (Hulk+Raikage=Rulkaige ) is still gonna kick Curse Seal 2 Juugo's arse! Just like all the other curse seal users that have all fallen (except for Sasuke, which was only a one time thing) I mean theirs a good reason why Rulkaige has been lifting cars ever since he was a kid! Besides, Rulkaige defeating Juugo easily will make Sasuke start whipping out some MS Jutsu and hopefully Rulkaige will counter back.

Edited by Uzumakikage, 28 August 2009 - 03:29 AM.