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[Chivalrysae]

I didn't mean outcast as in he would be hated by everyone in Konoha. Outcast as in...if he defies Danzou it would either one, give him the opportunity to arrest him (if he really is Madara), or two, Danzou would banish him. I just think Danzou would try to rid himself of anyone that may oppose him or try to rebel against his authority. At least I would if I were an evil dictator.

[RyrineaHaruno]

1.)Yugao who still wants revenge for the death of her lover and I'm going to guess has been swayed to his side.

Why would Yugao be on the side of Danzo when she just a side character for that arc. Her lover was killed a during time of war, so I doubt she cares anymore about revenge. Woman can get over stuff very easily, unlike men who like to battle a lot. I also

2)Naruto's parentage, which he can and will use for his purposes.

Why would Naruto use his parentage? Didn't his father want him to make his own destiny? Plus the rock ninja would probably attack the village and try to kill Naruto to get revenge. Danzo could use that for an alliance between the rock and his forces.

I didn't mean outcast as in he would be hated by everyone in Konoha. Outcast as in...if he defies Danzou it would either one, give him the opportunity to arrest him (if he really is Madara), or two, Danzou would banish him. I just think Danzou would try to rid himself of anyone that may oppose him or try to rebel against his authority. At least I would if I were an evil dictator.

Oh know I get it but then he would loose most of the population support. His rain would be short lived if he did that.

Edited by RyrineaHaruno, 10 June 2009 - 10:13 PM.

[Cloud]

Why would Yugao be on the side of Danzo when she just a side character for that arc. Her lover was killed a during time of war, so I doubt she cares anymore about revenge. Woman can get over stuff very easily, unlike men who like to battle a lot.

Sexist much?

Why would she care about revenge? The same reason Tsunade would care about Jiraiya dying. Same reason for her caring about her little brother dying.

Men and women are all human, the mentalities during war don't differ that much when a loved one is killed.

[Paptala]

Yeah, I'd too would have pegged this as a fake as well. Yeah, Tazuna and Inari shown up out of the blue was just strange to me. I would have thought their would be more argument's over Danzo becoming Hokage.


Oh and they could have gotten wagons thanks to the bridge being built or wear already their bring supplies for building stuff, so that my theory on how they got their so fast. It's been two days since the last manga chapter so he probably just didn't think we noticed that little event lol.

I would have thought there would be more debating over Danzo's appointment too, but I guess the Daiymo really does have the power to just appoint anyone he feels like.

Also, you brought up a good point about the bridge being built - I had forgotten about that. But still, why bring these characters back into the story after so long?

Honestly, while the generation theme is important, Sasuke has always seemed to me to be the last villain. It's just this gut feeling I have, and it seems to be the path he's headed towards. As for unrepentant, that was probably an overstatement on my part. I could only see him repenting in a Darth Vader style, but again, that was just done with Nagato, so I'm really not sure about it. The main thing is that I just don't see Sasuke coming back.

True, I don't expect Sasuke will be able to just waltz back in and be a part of the village again after everything that he's done. Regardless of the fact that he never killed anyone (besides Itachi...sort of...did that one even count?), Sasuke still abandoned the village and joined forces with one of Konoha's enemies. I don't think he'll be killed though. He might just become a wandering nin, neither hindering nor helping Naruto and Konoha unless it's in his own interest to do so. I think Naruto and Sasuke will kind of end up like Magneto and Charles Xavier from the X-men movies. They were friends and enemies at the same time. They had different agendas, and fought against each other, but neither really wanted the other to get killed. Sorry for those of you who don't get the reference, it's just the only example I can think of at the moment.

Edited by Paptala, 10 June 2009 - 10:33 PM.

[catsi563]

Actually none of them have trully been directly responsible for someones death. not a single kill from the three of them interesting. every person they faced whos died died at the hands of someone else or by other causes.

[RyrineaHaruno]

Sexist much?

Why would she care about revenge? The same reason Tsunade would care about Jiraiya dying. Same reason for her caring about her little brother dying.

Men and women are all human, the mentalities during war don't differ that much when a loved one is killed.

Sorry I am a female OK I didn't mean for it to sound sexist. Sorry if it sounded like that.

Also, you brought up a good point about the bridge being built - I had forgotten about that. But still, why bring these characters back into the story after so long?

I have know idea why lol its just seem so random to me.

Edited by RyrineaHaruno, 10 June 2009 - 10:47 PM.

[dl316bh]

Woman can get over stuff very easily

I must be meeting the wrong women.

[Paptala]

I must be meeting the wrong women.

[RyrineaHaruno]

I must be meeting the wrong women.

[Sora no Kitsune]

Umm. Copy paste much... again?

Popularity of a character doesn't make the character story end in a happy note. He is evil and he makes a better villain anyways. He more interesting I think as a villain than a good guy. for example look at Sephiroth he died in the end

1. I didn't mean popularity to people, i ment to kishimoto. He couldn't kill off a shy secondary character who barley exists in the story (Hinata) so what makes you think he'll want to kill Sasuke off, let alone as a villan. Sasuke caused enough damage in the story, so it's to late for him to be saved like Hinata did, but knowing Kishimoto, he's most likely gonna have Sasuke end on a good note. Nagato, who has been in the series for less time than Sasuke and got a second chance before he died, so why can't Sasuke??

2. Compairing Sasuke to Sephiroth isn't very accurate. Sasuke is the friend of Naruto who turned to darkness to gain power and kill his brother, not an experiment who goes insane and plans to use black materia to summon Meteor and sap the planet of its Lifestream....

Back on topic.... I'm starting to wonder what the Cloud nation's role is going to be in the upcoming story. I doubt they will sit back and watch Konoha hunt down Sasuke when they will probably want to do that themselves for "killing" Killer Bee, so maybe they'll become allies with Konoha to aid in finding and killing Sasuke. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

Edited by Sora no Senshi, 11 June 2009 - 12:05 AM.

[RyrineaHaruno]

Umm. Copy paste much... again?

No, I didn't copy and past this time. I typed in lmao and it got that . I must have typed it in :: these with out noticing.
I do that sometimes while typing.

Oh and Sasuke is his favorite to draw not his favorite character in genral. He was added at the last minute because the publishers thought the character Naruto need a rival.

Edited by RyrineaHaruno, 11 June 2009 - 12:21 AM.

[dl316bh]

Umm. Copy paste much... again?

You can't copy-paste smileys. You have to know the input code.

[Nate River]

Umm. Copy paste much... again?


1. I didn't mean popularity to people, i ment to kishimoto. He couldn't kill off a shy secondary character who barley exists in the story (Hinata) so what makes you think he'll want to kill Sasuke off, let alone as a villan. Sasuke caused enough damage in the story, so it's to late for him to be saved like Hinata did, but knowing Kishimoto, he's most likely gonna have Sasuke end on a good note. Nagato, who has been in the series for less time than Sasuke and got a second chance before he died, so why can't Sasuke??

Regardless of popularity, anything short of a living, reformed, and returned Sasuke would been seen as a failure by Naruto and Sakura. One thing Naruto hasn't done when it really matters most, is fail.

And on Kishimoto's preferences, I need only one word: Shikamaru.

[Freakazoid]

Regardless of popularity, anything short of a living, reformed, and returned Sasuke would been seen as a failure by Naruto and Sakura. One thing Naruto hasn't done when it really matters most, is fail.

And on Kishimoto's preferences, I need only one word: Shikamaru.

One thing I remember, is that Sasuke was made for one reason. To be Naruto's Rival. Focus on Sasuke's god-mode type powers will only be used in the end to show how strong Naruto is to overcome them, and defeat Sasuke.

I'm totally in a loop on how I think Sasuke's outcome in the series will turn out. I have personal preference of course, but that doesn't count for much.

[Codus N]

The only thing I can say about this chapter is that I REALLY feel sorry for Yamato LOL wonder how many houses Shodai made & what was his record? (curious to see Yamato beat that)

[Freakazoid]

The only thing I can say about this chapter is that I REALLY feel sorry for Yamato LOL wonder how many houses Shodai made & what was his record? (curious to see Yamato beat that)

Didn't even think about that! Poor Yamato!

[RyrineaHaruno]

The only thing I can say about this chapter is that I REALLY feel sorry for Yamato LOL wonder how many houses Shodai made & what was his record? (curious to see Yamato beat that)

Oh I get it. I bet Yamato will be his recoded lol.

[ciardha]

Yeah, I'd too would have pegged this as a fake as well. Yeah, Tazuna and Inari shown up out of the blue was just strange to me. I would have thought their would be more argument's over Danzo becoming Hokage.


Oh and they could have gotten wagons thanks to the bridge being built or wear already their bring supplies for building stuff, so that my theory on how they got their so fast. It's been two days since the last manga chapter so he probably just didn't think we noticed that little event lol.

At minimum two days. There was time for the Konoha ninjas (including Danzo) to get to the Daimyo's palace and back to Konoha. So the day or so journey for Tazuna and Inari to get to Konoha certainly isn't that far fetched.

[RyrineaHaruno]

At minimum two days. There was time for the Konoha ninjas (including Danzo) to get to the Daimyo's palace and back to Konoha. So the day or so journey for Tazuna and Inari to get to Konoha certainly isn't that far fetched.

Yeah that what I thought too. I just thought it was strange for him to bring two old character's, that we haven't seen for 300+ chapters back in to the manga.

[Freakazoid]

At minimum two days. There was time for the Konoha ninjas (including Danzo) to get to the Daimyo's palace and back to Konoha. So the day or so journey for Tazuna and Inari to get to Konoha certainly isn't that far fetched.

The way its portrayed in the spoilers is terrible though. They all of a sudden show up in a panel, and ask where Sasuke is? I don't mind seeing them again, or them being in the village already, just hope they are introduced into this chapter better then that.