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#42341 Konoha'sCrimsonFox

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 08:19 PM

If it wern't for chapter 631, I would have missed out on the ending a long time ago.


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Posted 06 January 2016 - 09:14 PM

the naruto vs sasuke fight wasnt even worth it and i didn't care about it either, plus the hype was super ridiculous anyway there's no way it would have lived up to it in suh short amount of time



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Posted 06 January 2016 - 11:30 PM

I feel pretty much everything after at least Sasuke vs. Itachi shouldn't have happened, perhaps even after Kakuzu/Hidan. A lot of people think things started going downhill after the Pain arc, but I feel it happened at the start of it.


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Posted 06 January 2016 - 11:52 PM

I feel pretty much everything after at least Sasuke vs. Itachi shouldn't have happened, perhaps even after Kakuzu/Hidan. A lot of people think things started going downhill after the Pain arc, but I feel it happened at the start of it.

Sooner or later their fight will happen. I think it's a good fight.

Some said that it goes downhill when sasuke great snake escape happen and another said when garra resurection happen.
I think post pain arc is the most noticeable.

Why do you think it shouldn't happen?

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 12:41 AM

A lot of people in NF has said Pain Invasion ending is the beginning of a downfall of no return. Some can argue that it began in beginning of part 2 and I can see why really.

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 01:08 AM

A lot of people in NF has said Pain Invasion ending is the beginning of a downfall of no return. Some can argue that it began in beginning of part 2 and I can see why really.

Personally, I never see kishi as great writer even with part 1.
I think if kishi could maintain the writing quality of part 2 like part 1, I think naruto will be great manga.

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 01:12 AM

Personally, I never see kishi as great writer even with part 1.
I think if kishi could maintain the writing quality of part 2 like part 1, I think naruto will be great manga.

That's because he ain't. He's a mediocre writing that wrote something that caught our attention and was successful.

And I agree he couldn't maintain the quality in part 2 like part 1 but only with Yahagi by his side and no masters above them plus having bigger balls.


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These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 07 January 2016 - 01:19 AM

Personally, I never see kishi as great writer even with part 1.
I think if kishi could maintain the writing quality of part 2 like part 1, I think naruto will be great manga.

He doesn't need to be a great writer but it was certainly fun times back in part 1. Part 2 was probably a wake up call of his writing. I think NC described it best with Star Wars but I'll use it here:

To me, part 2 was the wake up call to fans that nothing is perfect and there are times that can let you down hard.

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 03:13 AM

speaking of star wars it just beat avatar



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Posted 07 January 2016 - 03:25 AM

speaking of star wars it just beat avatar

 Wow. That's a shocker.


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Posted 07 January 2016 - 06:03 AM

speaking of star wars it just beat avatar

 

 

 Wow. That's a shocker.

 

And it hasn't even been released in China yet. It just set the domestic record, beating Avatar but it still has some ways to go to beat Avatar's international/total gross. But it will



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Posted 07 January 2016 - 07:58 AM

I mostly feel that it was during/after the Sasuke vs. Itachi battle that the Sharingan haxing and Uchiha wanking really started taking off.

Like we already knew about the Mangekyo Sharingan from Part One along with Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi from Itachi using them, but it was also believed to be, while very powerful abilities, also very limited in use because of the amount of chakra needed to use them (Itachi thinking to himself about having to use both in one day, clearly having worn him down and furthered his impending blindness as we would learn about such things). And yet Sasuke, despite having lost the Curse Seal that forcefully brought out more chakra, was able to somehow spam/maintain the Mangekyo Sharingan and both Amaterasu and Susano'o at the Kage Summit and against Danzo while seeming to not feel any ill-effects until well near the end of the fight with the Kages.


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Posted 07 January 2016 - 08:26 AM

I mostly feel that it was during/after the Sasuke vs. Itachi battle that the Sharingan haxing and Uchiha wanking really started taking off.

Like we already knew about the Mangekyo Sharingan from Part One along with Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi from Itachi using them, but it was also believed to be, while very powerful abilities, also very limited in use because of the amount of chakra needed to use them (Itachi thinking to himself about having to use both in one day, clearly having worn him down and furthered his impending blindness as we would learn about such things). And yet Sasuke, despite having lost the Curse Seal that forcefully brought out more chakra, was able to somehow spam/maintain the Mangekyo Sharingan and both Amaterasu and Susano'o at the Kage Summit and against Danzo while seeming to not feel any ill-effects until well near the end of the fight with the Kages.

 

One of the thing that also irked me. Is that Sasuke become immune to poisons. Even after Oro was extracted from him. Yet Naruto who always had Kurama's chakra in his body, Which can heal anything. Can be affected by poisons!

 

On your note about Kurama's chakra. When Naruto fought Oro in 4 tails state. We saw that even touching Naruto in that form, disintegrates the user (Oro). Yet this point was immediately dropped after that! 

 

What irks me the most. Is that Naruto never beat Sasuke. Kishi's wank for Sasuke was so great. That he made his main char so pathetic!


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Posted 07 January 2016 - 01:33 PM

I mostly feel that it was during/after the Sasuke vs. Itachi battle that the Sharingan haxing and Uchiha wanking really started taking off.

Like we already knew about the Mangekyo Sharingan from Part One along with Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi from Itachi using them, but it was also believed to be, while very powerful abilities, also very limited in use because of the amount of chakra needed to use them (Itachi thinking to himself about having to use both in one day, clearly having worn him down and furthered his impending blindness as we would learn about such things). And yet Sasuke, despite having lost the Curse Seal that forcefully brought out more chakra, was able to somehow spam/maintain the Mangekyo Sharingan and both Amaterasu and Susano'o at the Kage Summit and against Danzo while seeming to not feel any ill-effects until well near the end of the fight with the Kages.

So how is Sarada going to get the mangekyo and Enteral Mangekyo will she have to either kill her mother, Bolt, or Cho-Cho or just watch them died front of them like Itachi did with Shusui and how Itachi died in front of Sasuke, and will she have to take her father's eyes to get EMS cause his the only Uchiha left who can do that. Like to see what new rule the asspull about the Sharingan showing bad they are at this. 



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Posted 07 January 2016 - 01:34 PM

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if they bs their way to have Sarada get what Sasuke has.

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 01:38 PM

 

One of the thing that also irked me. Is that Sasuke become immune to poisons. Even after Oro was extracted from him. Yet Naruto who always had Kurama's chakra in his body, Which can heal anything. Can be affected by poisons!

 

On your note about Kurama's chakra. When Naruto fought Oro in 4 tails state. We saw that even touching Naruto in that form, disintegrates the user (Oro). Yet this point was immediately dropped after that! 

 

What irks me the most. Is that Naruto never beat Sasuke. Kishi's wank for Sasuke was so great. That he made his main char so pathetic!

Ya Naruto never beat Sasuke, Their last fight was pretty much a draw aside form being Pointless. And serious how many times has Sasuke survived being killed by the dumbest ways only to lose half his arm that is so lame.

 

That also brings something up that I hear King of Lightning said when he did a video a Vegeta being a villain. Goku never beat Vegeta either but it was done way better and Vegeta actually appected the fact he couldn't beat Goku and that Goku was stronger than him.



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Posted 07 January 2016 - 01:48 PM

the naruto vs sasuke fight wasnt even worth it and i didn't care about it either, plus the hype was super ridiculous anyway there's no way it would have lived up to it in suh short amount of time

Well said cause really it severed no purpose in the story cause Sasuke seemed like his was already willing to go back with Naruto after they sealed Kaguya up.



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Posted 07 January 2016 - 01:56 PM

If you're going to make a round 2, you might as well do it quick (as in do it early) and related to the first one. Truth be told, perhaps it would be best to only have it one. I know it's not always true but the sequel don't live up to the expectation and this one is no exception.

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 02:44 PM

their first fight at the end of part 1 was pretty good though. look at them by the end, they became total monsters, where as the one at the end of part 2 they're in their base.

 

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 03:04 PM

their first fight at the end of part 1 was pretty good though. look at them by the end, they became total monsters, where as the one at the end of part 2 they're in their base.
 
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It was. So why part 2 was underwhelming.




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