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#1 NarutoIzDaMan

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Posted 15 November 2015 - 02:16 AM

Sup ya'll hope everyone is doing well, I haven't been on these forums (or naruto forums) ever since Naruto ended last year and haven't followed the anime or any of the latest developments of the series (ie; the last; boruto) that followed. I was more than a little amused :lulz:  about the latest revelation that Kishi's wife of all people and the female staff at SP were ticked off at Narusaku (the only pairing which had any REAL development) not being end game. 

 

If you go look at my old posts here and on naruto forums you will understand my feelings on the Narusaku pairing and why I always felt like most here that it was the most likely pairing to become canon. Of course as we all know; all the development and progress went down the toilet for reasons that are starting to become more and more clear - outside pressure and lack of conviction/honor by the author Kishimoto.

 

However now that we do know for a fact that Kishi's own wife and the female staff at SP supported Narusaku all along; validating everything we saw and felt during the story of Uzumaki Sasuke - uh- I mean Naruto...the story was about Naruto (at least it was supposed to be :roll:) do you guys feel just a teeny weeny bit of vindication? Thoughts 

 

 



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Posted 15 November 2015 - 02:20 AM

*some female staff

 

sp has said that they are bias for hinata


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Posted 15 November 2015 - 02:50 AM

Wow, you're back.

Only some female staff, sp as a whole support nh.
Base on the interview, yes kishi wife support NS.

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Posted 15 November 2015 - 05:27 AM

*some female staff
 
sp has said that they are bias for hinata

I feel like the one that wanted NS wrote that screenplay.

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Posted 15 November 2015 - 02:25 PM

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Posted 15 November 2015 - 03:47 PM

Please pairing wars already over, let NS laid rest in realm fanon



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Posted 15 November 2015 - 03:51 PM

It puts to rest the idea that NS was a crack pairing or seen as only a platonic relationship. These arguments of "you should have seen them like that since the beginning" is now debunked by half if not most of the people involved with Naruto saying NS should have been canon.

Half the Japanese VAs, SP staff, most of the fandom, and even Kishimoto's own wife said "NS should have been" which only proves that not only NS is NOT a crackship, but SS is utterly ridiculous seeing how no matter what SS was seen as the worst. There are only a fraction of SS fans who think this ship is good.


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Posted 15 November 2015 - 04:12 PM

The leaders of SP are mainly male and are likely the ones who have a final word and are mainly influential.

 

 

 

The female staff are probably the ones who made the Ns moments in fillers and Naruto's confession to the female Kunoichi that he loves sakura and only cares if she is happy. The female writer understood the whole point of their relationship and Naruto as a character.



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Posted 15 November 2015 - 04:13 PM

The leaders of SP are mainly male and are likely the ones who have a final word and are mainly influential.

 

 

 

The female staff are probably the ones who made the Ns moments in fillers and Naruto's confession to the female Kunoichi that he loves sakura and only cares if she is happy. The female writer understood the whole point of their relationship and Naruto as a character.

I have a little faith these female staff in sp will make justice in the ending of the anime



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Posted 15 November 2015 - 04:21 PM

They literally can't now unfortunately. They don't have the last word.



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Posted 15 November 2015 - 05:23 PM

The matter if not if they can change it, but rather do they want to.
 

Please pairing wars already over, let NS laid rest in realm fanon

It will never be over. Not as long as they keep making Naruto stuff. It will be over when the series stops entirely. The pairings wars went from "What could be vs What could be" then it went to "What could be vs what should be" and now it is "What is vs what it should have been."

Plus, the Naruto makers from Kishimoto to SP are not letting it go either and constantly trying to force us to accept NH and SS are what was planned all along. NS is not dead. In fact, we are more alive than ever and we don't need canon to do it. Funny how people said the canon would be the end all and be all, but now all canon is is the "The end we don't want."

The very people who are trying to end NS and SK are the same people keeping it alive too. Irony huh?

I read something what someone posted once and I like how they put it.

"Naruto will forever be known not for its story, but for the pairing war."


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Posted 15 November 2015 - 05:31 PM

 

I feel like the one that wanted NS wrote that screenplay.

 

 what do you mean? 

Please pairing wars already over, let NS laid rest in realm fanon

lol shut up and gtfo


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Posted 15 November 2015 - 05:37 PM

 

 
 

 what do you mean? 

lol shut up and gtfo

 

He is right, let it go already. It's been almost one year already if I recall correctly.

 

The people in this fandom are copying what nh and ss fandoms were doing for the past years and that means flaming, contesting and crying because of every little and not-so important detail. m-muh kishimoto's waifu said she isn't happy with nh&ss

 

THAT doesn't matter to the story, she has no right to tell him what to do; wife or not.  



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Posted 15 November 2015 - 05:55 PM

He is right, let it go already. It's been almost one year already if I recall correctly.

 

The people in this fandom are copying what nh and ss fandoms were doing for the past years and that means flaming, contesting and crying because of every little and not-so important detail. m-muh kishimoto's waifu said she isn't happy with nh&ss

 

THAT doesn't matter to the story, she has no right to tell him what to do; wife or not.  

Well I sadly have to disagree with you on the last matter I mean its Kishi who has no right to tell us what is right and not so his wife can lay it into him for all I care, I mean its like he is telling his own daughter that you find a kitten man and fail for him you can't move on if so than your a bad woman.

 

Plus the fact that Kishi is a kitten writer so the dude as he lacks any brain power needs to be told what to do I mean the dude is think headed and if I could get his head checked, yes I'm attack Kishi because he is a bad writer, and while good writer are trying to get their books out he got his kitten story out.

 

Oh and only sexy girls can get what they want as least face it they all saw Hinata as the sexy girl.

 

If I was a writer and I needed help I would ask my wife or girlfriend or even my sister when it came to woman for help why as I use my head unlike Kishi and that would make me the bigger man then him. After all writer all get stuck at some points and if that happened to me I would ask if this is the right way the story should go in. did Kishi ever do this?

 

No all he care in the end was one thing getting more money and that can't get forgiving ever.


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Posted 15 November 2015 - 06:08 PM

He is right, let it go already. It's been almost one year already if I recall correctly.

 

The people in this fandom are copying what nh and ss fandoms were doing for the past years and that means flaming, contesting and crying because of every little and not-so important detail. m-muh kishimoto's waifu said she isn't happy with nh&ss

 

THAT doesn't matter to the story, she has no right to tell him what to do; wife or not.  

no, that's the standard reply i give to this extreme nh tard, he's just here to piss off ns fans. you don't see me being rude to any other members here.

 

he flames sakura and say things like hinata boobs is bigger therefore better girl wayyy before the ending.


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Posted 15 November 2015 - 06:14 PM

Honestly and unfortunately I have to disagree with you, as well.

 

As a creator may it be writer or artist; it doesn't matter, the way one tells their stories through their works are absolute. You can't simply contest kishimoto's decision by saying he has no right to tell you what to do. Of course he hasn't, but it is his story and he is behind the scenes. Why do you even care about his personal life anyway? He doesn't have one, it's been stated many times. Once he is done playing family, kishimoto will start drawing again. But, he isn't telling her that because we, the readers, are to interpret his words however we want so therefore we have your statement "has no right to tell us what his right".

 

It has been stated in many threads especially on this subject that he is mediocre; besides his somewhat unique drawing style he has nothing. Without his various and respectively many, many editors throughout almost two decades, his story would have ended as an one-shot based on ramen. I am sure that kishimoto knows he is bad, you ought to realize something like that after a while, ya know?

 

Hinata whereas she might be considered a sexy girl, that is solely up for interpretation. She is popular due to her very shy and "cute" attitude, something that the westerners and a part of the nips prefer due to the fact that they can't stand strong women. Don't come out and say she's got what she wants because she is beautiful and hot since Sakura got what she want too. How it was executed though... well, we already saw that.

 

Of course you'd be asking for help. Even so, you can't rely on their ideas. You never do that because you'll cease to evolve. He probably asked his wife and family for advice many times but who knows if he really applied their input to the story?  

 

In the end, you should just let it go after all. It got boring to watch a forum full of smart and educated people whine like little kids.


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Posted 15 November 2015 - 06:15 PM

He is right, let it go already. It's been almost one year already if I recall correctly.

 

The people in this fandom are copying what nh and ss fandoms were doing for the past years and that means flaming, contesting and crying because of every little and not-so important detail. m-muh kishimoto's waifu said she isn't happy with nh&ss

 

THAT doesn't matter to the story, she has no right to tell him what to do; wife or not.  

Being angry and upset is not the same as "flaming, contesting and crying". The ones who engage in that kind of stuff either gets called out or ignored. It's true that pairings aren't really important to the overall story. That's not the only thing the anti fandom talks about. We also discuss how the characters themselves were butchered, how the themes don't make any sense or how the story seems to support some rather questionable ethics and morals.   

 

It's not just that Kishi's wife apparently wanted NS to become canon, but because of the way Kishi tried to appease her by saying that she was really based on Hinata, when in fact she has more in common with Sakura. Apparently, he didn't even care that she was able to call his bluff. She wasn't trying to tell him what to do. She was just offering an opinion. which she has every right to.  

 

And that's really what it all comes down to. Kishi has every right to do what he wants with his story and everyone else has every right to tell him that his story sucks. You're not immune from criticism, even if you are a highly succesful mangaka. 


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Posted 15 November 2015 - 06:18 PM

Being angry and upset is not the same as "flaming, contesting and crying". The ones who engage in that kind of stuff either gets called out or ignored. It's true that pairings aren't really important to the overall story. That's not the only thing the anti fandom talks about. We also discuss how the characters themselves were butchered, how the themes don't make any sense or how the story seems to support some rather questionable ethics and morals.   

 

It's not just that Kishi's wife apparently wanted NS to become canon, but because of the way Kishi tried to appease her by saying that she was really based on Hinata, when in fact she has more in common with Sakura. Apparently, he didn't even care that she was able to call his bluff. She wasn't trying to tell him what to do. She was just offering an opinion. which she has every right to.  

 

And that's really what it all comes down to. Kishi has every right to do what he wants with his story and everyone else has every right to tell him that his story sucks. You're not immune from criticism, even if you are a highly succesful mangaka. 

Thank you for being based and understanding what I was trying to get through.

 

@Hanabi, I read their posts and haven't found a single negative comment about sakura, let alone ns as a whole.



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Posted 15 November 2015 - 06:22 PM

Thank you for being based and understanding what I was trying to get through.

 

@Hanabi, I read their posts and haven't found a single negative comment about sakura, let alone ns as a whole.

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Posted 15 November 2015 - 06:24 PM

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Even if they said those things, it doesn't make them anymore less false to be honest. Minus the part where they said hinata is more beautiful than sakura. different styles, different genres






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