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[nikki1314]

I was FORCE'd to watch this when my coworkers found out that I have not seen a single episode of starwars.

 

I bravely stormed the cinemas with my friends armed with a 7 minute knowledge of the past 6 episodes (from YT) , got myselft a tumblr with a wookie toy and popcorn and ventured into the unknown.

 

and i got to say its pretty good and a newbie like me understood it pretty well. They did a great job making sure that its not just for old fans but new movie goers as well.  

 

5/5 :)

[milan kyuubi]

Interesting thing Kevin Smith brought up on Screenjunkies movie fight! Now all 6 movies are prequels!

[Ryriena]

I absolutely loved it, and I loved Rey and Finn's relationship growth through out the movie. They bicker like Han and Leia did lol

Edited by Ryriena, 19 December 2015 - 02:51 PM.

[Lid]

I wrote a review, gave it a high 4 out of 5. You can read it with the Link<<<<

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

Definitely a great addition to the franchise and an overall great movie.

Spoiler

I do agree that, in some ways, it's a little bit of a turn-off that the story is, virtually scene for scene, Episode IV all over again, but I also can understand the way it's used for set-up for the next generation of characters.

I'd say my biggest complaints would be...(and, of course, these are solely contained to Episode VII itself, so please don't give me "maybe (complaint in question) will happen/be answered/be shown/etc. in the next movie(s)" replies as I already know it's a good possibility =)  . Also, these are obviously not deal breakers because of such possibilities, so some can be as little as nitpicks too, lol)

A.) Lack of explanation for where the First Order came from and how they could rise to such power without being quickly detected and snuffed out by the New Republic (which we also don't see anything of; only mentioned a couple times), especially when you consider they built a super weapon that was practically five or more times bigger and far more threatening than the first Death Star (only the Death Star II has an edge with its super laser charge time of merely a few minutes, despite the Starkiller Base being able to wipe out several planets with a single shot). I'm also pretty sure they won't want to make another political-based trilogy to explain such a thing considering the hate towards Episodes I, II, and III (though, IMO, I don't think they're as bad as people say. Certainly not great, but not the worst things ever either.).

B.) Lack of other starfighters besides the X-Wing and TIE Fighter (though the TIE Fighter was at least improved with a rear gunner and extra weapons the originals never had). You'd think we'd see the Y-Wing, A-Wing, and/or B-Wing flying around as well as (improved) TIE Interceptors, TIE Bombers, and whatnot. We wouldn't need all of them, of course, but at least seeing Y-Wings or A-Wings alongside the X-Wings to fight the TIE Fighters and/or go after Starkiller Base like Episode IV had Y-Wings with the X-Wings.

C.) The use of Captain Phasma. They make her look like a total badass in the trailers and such and you'd hope she'd be one of those awesome sub-boss type characters that the cast needs to overcome in a difficult battle (like what we'd want with Boba Fett), but instead, she barely has any lines, barely has any appearances, and her only big appearance is largely just being used as a way to push events forward and as Episode IV homage comic relief.

D.) As it was mentioned, the way Han Solo's death is just sort of glossed over after the fact. As such a legendary figure to the new generation and such an icon to the Republic/Resistance in general, you'd think there would have been some big, if brief, funeral before having Rey take off to where Luke was.

E.) Anakin's lightsaber. How was anyone able to find it after Luke lost it on Bespin in Episode V after Vader cut his hand off? Such a tiny object falling down such a huge shaft (who knows where it lead?) makes it hard to believe it was recoverable. If it was Luke's own green lightsaber that he himself constructed, it would have been more understandable.

F.) Also as was mentioned, Rey seeming to just be able to use The Force without any sort of prior training or experience. Even Luke had to have some training by Obi-Wan before he could do things like calling Anakin's lightsaber to him like at the start of Episode V (and even that took effort on his part) and then being in a bit of seclusion between Episodes V and VI, resulting in such a dramatic change from the end of V to the beginning of VI, and even Kylo Ren/Ben Solo required training from Luke and Snoke.

G.) Kylo Ren's obsession with Darth Vader and what exactly Vader "started" that he intended to finish considering, if it was the general thinking of the Dark Side winning, than you'd think he'd be obsessed with Palpatine rather than Vader as Palpatine was the one who brought up the Empire and all, so it makes me think there could have been something else going on before Vader returned to being Anakin and died.

 

[VanitasDS76491]

I saw this yesterday actually and it was well worth the wait. The character were likeable like Poe, Finn, Rei, were good. It was nice to see the original character back again especially Han once last time. The ending where we see Luke was amazing. I'm kind of mixed on Kylo Ren so far I like the twist with him and Han but I still don't see him as a treat yet but it's only the first movie with him so they still have two movies to make him as good as Vader was. Cause let's be honest episode 4-6 Vader will never be topped. though I will say Kylo was done a bit better than Anakin was in the prequels. Hope Luke is around more in 8&9. Hope Kingdom Hearts III will be worth the 10 year wait next. 

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

I saw this yesterday actually and it was well worth the wait. The character were likeable like Poe, Finn, Rei, were good. It was nice to see the original character back again especially Han once last time. The ending where we see Luke was amazing. I'm kind of mixed on Kylo Ren so far I like the twist with him and Han but I still don't see him as a treat yet but it's only the first movie with him so they still have two movies to make him as good as Vader was. Cause let's be honest episode 4-6 Vader will never be topped. though I will say Kylo was done a bit better than Anakin was in the prequels. Hope Luke is around more in 8&9. Hope Kingdom Hearts III will be worth the 10 year wait next. 

Spoiler

Well, interviews with J.J, Abrams had him saying that he could never make a Vader 2.0, and it'd be boring if Kylo Ren actually did "become" a "new Vader" like that anyway. He's also not much of a threat yet, but considering he apparently hasn't even finished training (and seeing Rey with Luke at the end), it's only natural that they're both going to get stronger by Episode IX and I hope we get to see Finn become a fighter pilot or something for The Resistance.

[Ryriena]

I kind of agree that Kylo Ren didn't seem really threatening to me in the least. I also had some problems with the lore of the movie, and some problems with how the first order came into power. It also felt like I watching cut scenes from a video game in some parts of the film. However, I still loved it as a bridging gap between the last three and the new EU.

[Lid]

I kind of agree that Kylo Ren didn't seem really threatening to me in the least.

I actually found this to be fitting in a way. He's trying so hard to be Darth Vader, he's trying to replicate that. But the fact is, he's not, and the movie calls him out on that.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

I kind of agree that Kylo Ren didn't seem really threatening to me in the least. I also had some problems with the lore of the movie, and some problems with how the first order came into power. It also felt like I watching cut scenes from a video game in some parts of the film. However, I still loved it as a bridging gap between the last three and the new EU.

Yeah, that's one of my complaints above - the lack of any even brief exposition on the First Order. All we know is that a lot of it is remnants of the Galactic Empire, but where did Snoke come from and how did he rally so much power? How is he able to train anyone in The Force? And so on. And that leads to my other complaint on why there's a "Resistance" if the New Republic is already established and how the First Order was able to rise to such power without the New Republic ever finding out and hitting them first, much less allowing them to construct a bigger threat than the first Death Star.

[rocci]

Kylo ren will get redemption and join the light back, alive.
He could dead in the end of the trilogy.

[soraandven]

I absolutely loved it, and I loved Rey and Finn's relationship growth through out the movie. They bicker like Han and Leia did lol

 

I absolutely loved it, and I loved Rey and Finn's relationship growth through out the movie. They bicker like Han and Leia did lol

yes finn and rey had great moments i hope kishi watches the movie and realizes that could of been narusaku

[Phantom_999]

I watched it on Sunday And I gotta say I loved it!!!!!!

 

my thoughts

Uh, yeah I see that it kinda is like episode IV A new Hope in some premise but I see no problem, with it (kinda of like that actually). I freaking enjoy Finn and Rey as the main characters and well the entire movie was just great. A bit corny of course but this IS Star Wars so. Problems, well Kylo Rem is not that interesting of a villain to me. Whiny really and just as some may feel here too Han's death is pretty unceremonious and well everyone got over it a bit too quickly. And I feel kinda meh that they put Finn into a coma RIGHT in the first movie. How they couldn't find where Luke was with only one part of the map unless it was a planet they've never been on and needed the surrounding areas to locate him, but then act as if they know the place at the end? Eh I don't know.......... Still great though. another master piece that helps me get by the kitten kitten kitten that is kittenruto

 

I've never watched Star Wars what is it about? (I'd rather read a short summary than wikipedia).

 

Uuh, I think someone else here would do a better job than me but long story short it's a science fiction all about exploring different planets across the universe, space dog fights, and Futuristic swordsmen/women called Jedi knights, etc. etc.

 

Well if it's too short, let me know. But I'm not good at short explanations so you may want to ask some one else for more specific yet brief details 

Edited by Phantom_999, 22 December 2015 - 12:09 PM.

[soraandven]

I watched it on Sunday And I gotta say I loved it!!!!!!

 

my thoughts

Uh, yea I see that it kinda is like episode IV A new Hope in some premise but I see no proble, with it. I freaking enjoy Finn and Rey as the main characters and well the entire movie was just great. A bit corny of course but this IS Star Wars so. Problems, well Kylo Rem is not that interesting of a villain to me. whiny whiny really and just as some may feel here too Han's death is pretty unceremonious and well everyone got over it a bit too quickly. And I feel kinda meh that they put finn into a coma RIGHT in the first movie. how They couldn't find where Luke was with only one part of the map unless it was planet they've never been on and needed the surrounding areas to locate him, but then act as if they know the place at the end. Eh I don't know.......... Still great though. another master piece that helps me get by the kitten kitten kitten that is kittenruto

yeah when finn saw rey on the ground i was like kishi better watch this 

[Narufan85]

A few more thoughts after a second viewing

 

The Force Awakens

 

1: The comparisons to ANH are upsetting. But I expect Abrams to do poorly-made reboots by now. However, I'll be far more forgiving if Ep. 8 and 9 take some risks. After the bad reception of the prequels, they needed to win back the fans and they did so by covering familiar ground. I get that. Hopefully the new two films are bolder in terms of plot.

 

2: Regarding Rey's sudden skill: I think the film hints that she's received some training. Also, I think she's learning to use the force through her interactions with Kylo once he captures her.

[soraandven]

A few more thoughts after a second viewing

 

The Force Awakens

 

1: The comparisons to ANH are upsetting. But I expect Abrams to do poorly-made reboots by now. However, I'll be far more forgiving if Ep. 8 and 9 take some risks. After the bad reception of the prequels, they needed to win back the fans and they did so by covering familiar ground. I get that. Hopefully the new two films are bolder in terms of plot.

 

2: Regarding Rey's sudden skill: I think the film hints that she's received some training. Also, I think she's learning to use the force through her interactions with Kylo once he captures her.

how was it upsetting?

[Narufan85]

how was it upsetting?

 

Perhaps a poor choice of words. I don't think Abrams is very good, and I was again disappointed the script didn't take more chances.

[Ryriena]

A few more thoughts after a second viewing
 

The Force Awakens

 
1: The comparisons to ANH are upsetting. But I expect Abrams to do poorly-made reboots by now. However, I'll be far more forgiving if Ep. 8 and 9 take some risks. After the bad reception of the prequels, they needed to win back the fans and they did so by covering familiar ground. I get that. Hopefully the new two films are bolder in terms of plot.
 
2: Regarding Rey's sudden skill: I think the film hints that she's received some training. Also, I think she's learning to use the force through her interactions with Kylo once he captures her.

In which parts exactly does, it hits at the receiving training in the films I might have missed it?

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

I think Doug Walker/The Nostalgia Critic said it best in that the "A New Hope" overlapping was partly a "prequel apology" by bringing things back to more like the classic Star Wars feel (more classic sci-fi action and the likes) while also being a safe way of setting things up for the next movies, and now Episodes VIII and IX could possibly, hopefully, go down their own, more unique paths and not simply overlap The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. Similarities, sure, but not virtually scene-for-scene copies/pacing/etc.

[soraandven]

I think Doug Walker/The Nostalgia Critic said it best in that the "A New Hope" overlapping was partly a "prequel apology" by bringing things back to more like the classic Star Wars feel (more classic sci-fi action and the likes) while also being a safe way of setting things up for the next movies, and now Episodes VIII and IX could possibly, hopefully, go down their own, more unique paths and not simply overlap The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. Similarities, sure, but not virtually scene-for-scene copies/pacing/etc.

yeah besides rey and finn are unique