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Posted 01 November 2019 - 07:19 AM

No-no. There are Still Sasusaku's :zaru:

Somehow, amazingly. The anime apparently keeps spitting on SasuSaku while worshiping NH yet the SStards keep coming back for more.
But then again, that really doesn't surprise me. They are the same group that thinks Sasuke without a doubt, legitimately trying to murder Sakura was good for the pairing and didn't affect it negatively at all. The same group that believed that Sasuke had hidden feelings for Sakura when all he's ever said in response to her confessions were "You're annoying". And "I have no reason to love her and she has no reason to love me." Probably one of the most sane things Sasuke has ever said.
How ironic.
So SStards must think hatred/dislike, insults, avoidance, violence and avoidance is true love. Even though Studio Pierrot throws them a literal, covered in rotting flesh bone to them, they come back. I mean, I guess they have to. They don't want the fandom to think Sakura finally moved on from her Sasuke addiction after all. Gotta prove she's still hooked like the crackhead she is.  :fu: 

Also, I know I'm late, but I saw someone mention how the NH and SS fandom are in alliance. 
They actually aren't. I run an anti-ending tumblr blog and when I search for Anti-NH/SS/Hinata, you find a LOT of of the fandom hissing and clawing at each other. It's Sakura vs Hinata all over again. Who is better? What endgame pairing is """"better""""? 
They were only friendly because NaruSaku was the biggest threat. Now that Studio Pierrot has bent over and kissed their butts, they've turned on one another. Their "truce" is over.
All the while, some demented Pro-Enders "I'm literally only here for my canon crack ship", will attack any and every anti-ender and especially NaruSaku fans who are minding their own business, making a way, way, WAY better endgame canon. One can only assume it's because the NaruSaku fandom is still strong and has officially made a better ending and sequel to Naruto than actual canon. And Hinata isn't the goddess/Main Character who wins Naruto as a trophy like in canon.


NaruSaku will always be better than crack and fan fiction
 

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Posted 01 November 2019 - 08:07 AM

 

It really is something, isn't it? I mean, people often compare it to Dragonball but the Buu saga didn't kill the franchise. GT didn't kill the franchise (just gave it a temporary ending). Evolution was so horrible it brought the franchise back in order to avenge itself. But Dragonball keeps going and keeps reaching new audiences to this day. Naruto went downhill post-Pein, killed itself with it's ending, desecrated it's own corpse with The Last and now what's left is a shambling zombie desperate for attention.

THIS. people bash db super over the beginning arcs' animation(which was fixed on bluray release) and the way the goku black arc ended, but db super is still good and is way better than this bs. heck even db heroes is better than boruto


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Posted 01 November 2019 - 10:42 PM

Somehow, amazingly. The anime apparently keeps spitting on SasuSaku while worshiping NH yet the SStards keep coming back for more.
But then again, that really doesn't surprise me. They are the same group that thinks Sasuke without a doubt, legitimately trying to murder Sakura was good for the pairing and didn't affect it negatively at all. The same group that believed that Sasuke had hidden feelings for Sakura when all he's ever said in response to her confessions were "You're annoying". And "I have no reason to love her and she has no reason to love me." Probably one of the most sane things Sasuke has ever said.
How ironic.
So SStards must think hatred/dislike, insults, avoidance, violence and avoidance is true love. Even though Studio Pierrot throws them a literal, covered in rotting flesh bone to them, they come back. I mean, I guess they have to. They don't want the fandom to think Sakura finally moved on from her Sasuke addiction after all. Gotta prove she's still hooked like the crackhead she is.  :fu: 

Also, I know I'm late, but I saw someone mention how the NH and SS fandom are in alliance. 
They actually aren't. I run an anti-ending tumblr blog and when I search for Anti-NH/SS/Hinata, you find a LOT of of the fandom hissing and clawing at each other. It's Sakura vs Hinata all over again. Who is better? What endgame pairing is """"better""""? 
They were only friendly because NaruSaku was the biggest threat. Now that Studio Pierrot has bent over and kissed their butts, they've turned on one another. Their "truce" is over.
All the while, some demented Pro-Enders "I'm literally only here for my canon crack ship", will attack any and every anti-ender and especially NaruSaku fans who are minding their own business, making a way, way, WAY better endgame canon. One can only assume it's because the NaruSaku fandom is still strong and has officially made a better ending and sequel to Naruto than actual canon. And Hinata isn't the goddess/Main Character who wins Naruto as a trophy like in canon.

Lets not forget that Sakura made an attempt to murder Sasuke herself, but because she thought it was to the benefit of her "Side-man." Naruto and the rest of the world. Purely selfless reasons, meanwhile Sasuke was gonna do it just to slake his bloodlust like the selfish kittenbag he is.

But lykeeee bad boys who make you feel bad about yourself and you have to wait around for like a slave are soo hawt. Guys who literally make you feel terrified for your life are soo romantic. Girls who sit there and just take whatever garbage they want to dish out are the epitome of "Strong." Honestly, Someone needs to explain to these people that "dark guys" are sexy but only to an extent. Girls like to toe that edge of "Thats a dude who could ravish me." but not cross into "That's a dude who would kittening stab me." :zaru: 

But yea the reason that NHers and SSers hate one another is because SSers LIKE Sakura and believe she's the heroine. NHers hate her and want Hinata to take the title. 


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Posted 01 November 2019 - 11:35 PM

But yea the reason that NHers and SSers hate one another is because SSers LIKE Sakura and believe she's the heroine. NHers hate her and want Hinata to take the title. 

 

I will give them credit, SSers is correct as Sakura is (was thanks to Hinata) the heroine. But still, all of those ships are bad, wrong and doesn't make even sense.

 

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Posted 01 November 2019 - 11:59 PM

I'd argue that neither of them are Heroines at this point but background characters :zaru:
but yea none of it makes sense. 


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Posted 02 November 2019 - 02:11 PM

Next thing you see will be Naruto peeking on girls and Hinata defending that too. :zaru:

You know that Hinata only do that to Sakura. If let says Ino or Tenten is the one that did it, Hinata won't do anything. Because she knows Sakura is the only one that can steals her scumbag husband.


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Posted 02 November 2019 - 03:07 PM

You know rewatching the Walking Dead it reminds me of better villains, then what Naruto had.

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Posted 02 November 2019 - 06:50 PM

You know that Hinata only do that to Sakura. If let says Ino or Tenten is the one that did it, Hinata won't do anything. Because she knows Sakura is the only one that can steals her scumbag husband.

It probably is another attempt by SP to show why Sakura is worse than Hinata, but frankly, I don't give a damn. Naruto as a kid is that loudmouth in the movie theater everyone wants to kick. Those are just facts. 
 

 

You know rewatching the Walking Dead it reminds me of better villains, then what Naruto had.

I stopped watching like forever ago. The difference between villains is that TWD is a more kittenbag world than Naruto. When every waking moment you're not sure who is going to turn against you or where the next meal is from, or if you're going to get sick and die its easy to break down to your more base instincts as a human, Its kill or be killed. Naruto lost that feeling long ago. 

Everything can be solved with a big speech and a few punches.  :hm: 


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Posted 02 November 2019 - 09:11 PM

I stopped watching like forever ago. The difference between villains is that TWD is a more kittenbag world than Naruto. When every waking moment you're not sure who is going to turn against you or where the next meal is from, or if you're going to get sick and die its easy to break down to your more base instincts as a human, Its kill or be killed. Naruto lost that feeling long ago. 

Everything can be solved with a big speech and a few punches.  :hm:

Lol well, if it was season 7 and 8, I can say both seasons 9 and 10 are fantastic and back to form with the show, more so with a villain like Alpha and Negan well I still think he is cool.

 

Oh, I agree, it why I like it better than Naruto, and many have a reason why they have gone so far crazy. I mean, I think one of the best was The Governor played by David Morissey.

 

But yeah, I know end Naruto would think he could talk to everyone or that each villain has some pain that Naruto can shoulder it or some BS like that.



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Posted 03 November 2019 - 04:59 PM

It probably is another attempt by SP to show why Sakura is worse than Hinata, but frankly, I don't give a damn. Naruto as a kid is that loudmouth in the movie theater everyone wants to kick. Those are just facts. 

 

Yeah, you're definitely not wrong.



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Posted 03 November 2019 - 05:01 PM

Which means Hinata is the like the mom of that kid who just sits there as he talks obnoxiously and runs around the aisles being a menace :zaru: 


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Posted 03 November 2019 - 07:17 PM

Which means Hinata is the like the mom of that kid who just sits there as he talks obnoxiously and runs around the aisles being a menace :zaru:

Oh I have the perfect video for this :hehehe:, but it's probably going to get me banned so I won't post it. 


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Posted 03 November 2019 - 08:05 PM

Aw kitten, send it to me in a Msg then lol. 


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Posted 03 November 2019 - 11:02 PM

You know with all the BS going on in Boruto and what they are changing this proves that all of this is nothing more than an Infinite Tsukuyomi that everyone's trapped in. And this is Hinata's dream they are trapped in, all we need to work on is how they all got dragged into Hinata's dream world.

 

But I know it would make sense and why the NH fans ask why so much was changed if I owned Naruto I would say oh for many reasons and show them everything that SP messed up on.



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Posted 03 November 2019 - 11:50 PM

You know with all the BS going on in Boruto and what they are changing this proves that all of this is nothing more than an Infinite Tsukuyomi that everyone's trapped in. And this is Hinata's dream they are trapped in, all we need to work on is how they all got dragged into Hinata's dream world.
 
But I know it would make sense and why the NH fans ask why so much was changed if I owned Naruto I would say oh for many reasons and show them everything that SP messed up on.

Same
Only one small problem if it's hinata dream Neji isn't there since I remember him being part of that when we saw hinata dream.
For some reason I want hinata to be hunted by Michael Myers.

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Posted 05 November 2019 - 09:57 AM

 
I want to see some peoples' thoughts before I give my two cents.
 
Boruto Badly Needs a Relaunch 
 
Boruto: Naruto Next Generations has managed to become a successful continuation of the Naruto saga, despite early skepticism about the series and its central protagonist. If nothing else, Boruto has managed to get fan support behind it for its vision of the adult lives of Naruto and his friends, showcasing how the characters have grown up (in both personality and power) in some touching and/or exciting ways. However, despite Boruto managing to find its footing and justify its own existence, there are still some pretty big problems with how the series is progressing. That's why Boruto badly needs a relaunch... and soon.
 
WARNING: Don't read below if you are worried about any SPOILERS for the Boruto anime and manga! Make sure you're all caught up first!
 
 
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Looks like Boruto anime is successful on Tv Tokyo profits. It's still number 2 April-September 2019.
However sad news for the manga. It has been declining with each volume in terms of sales. Even though the content is getting better and better with each volume.
 
A new report has come out of Japan, detailing the current anime ratings. As it turns out, Boruto: Naruto Next Generations is doing well on the anime front, but when it comes to the manga source material, the analaysis (bad spelling do they not have an editor?) isn't nearly as positive. According to TV Tokoyo, the Boruto anime is second only to the main Naruto series when it comes to profitability, however, the Boruto manga has been tanking hard, with every subsequent new volume. In fact, the latest volume of Boruto's manga has barely touched 150K after 4 weeks of release. Needless to say, that's not a very good sign that Boruto's manga will be in it for the long run, which is a shame as the manga's current story arc has been getting rave reviews (especially from longtime Naruto fans) for its epic levels of action and game-changing mysteries. In fact, so much of what's happening in the Boruto manga right now is crucial for pushing the series (and entire Naruto mythos) forward in significant ways that cannot be ignored.
 
So what's to be done with Boruto, now that its anime and manga are so out of sync? Well, the most mutually beneficial thing may be (if you haven't realized from the headline) is giving Boruto a relaunch that solves that very problem.
 
Naruto set the blueprint with the break between its original series and the Naruto: Shippudensequel series - and it's a blueprint Boruto should follow. Ending the current volume of the anime and launching a second would give the manga a similar chance for a new start - a new start that syncs the storyline of the books with that of the anime. As for the anime: while Boruto is popular and profitable enough, the series also hit a slump in 2019 with an excessive run of filler arcs, as the manga was moving too slow with the substantive story material for the anime to delve into it. Boruto's anime has managed to beat the odds and pull itself out of that slump without the manga's help, launching an exciting time travel arc in which Boruto and Adult Sasuke go back to the time between Naruto and Shippuden to save Young Naruto from an Otsutsuki threat. That arc has opened the door to a perfect stopping point for both the manga and anime, and it's one that shouldn't be missed.
 
By the time the Boruto anime gets done the time travel arc and returns Boruto and Sasuke to the present, the manga will arguably be far enough along in its current "Kara Arc" for the anime to jump right into that arc (after a transitional filler episode or two, of course). The manga can finish out the Kara arc and go on hiatus, while the anime stretches its Kara Arc into a longer storyline. When that's done, the anime could end this volume of Boruto, and go on hiatus until a new anime series is launched. Hopefully, that new series would up the animation and style quality, and would start fans off at the same crucial point: the start of the "Teenage Bortuo" time jump. Boruto painted itself into a corner by starting off with a major flash-forward sequence that sees an older (teenage) Boruto battling teenage Kawaki, the pivotal character of the Kara Arc. Now the series has to honor that early promise of epic action to fans, an starting a new installment of the series more directly focused on that time period and storyline would be a clean and exciting new jumping-on point.
 
Moreover, one of the biggest problems right now is that the Boruto manga only comes out once a month (at best pace), while the anime has been keeping steady at once a week episodes. At the rare times that the manga and anime sync, the latter burns quickly through the content of the former, unlike a lot of anime, which stretch the source material content out into longer TV episodes. There's no two ways about it: the Boruto manga needs to pick up the pace, so perhaps a nice hiatus would give the mangaka team of Ukyo Kodachi and Mikio Ikemoto time to get a good headstart, or perhaps the creative team could be expanded to help the manga up its pace. That faster output, plus more strategic use of filler material (which should be easy since the anime has established so much more of Boruto's world and supporting cast), would keep the anime and manga more closely tied and relevant to one another, with a clearer shared destination in mind.

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Posted 05 November 2019 - 01:08 PM

My thoughts...............So much of what this windbag is saying is completely off base but let's address the prime issues of what he is saying.

 

1. The main problem with Boruto in the manga if you ask me has something more than it's pacing issues for it's seeming lack of success. It lacks "heart". It has none of the charm and excitement that the original Naruto captured it's fans with. You don't see interesting characters or any meaning to the conflicts that arise in the manga, it is just done to be cool  and nothing else. Even the original characters that we all grew up with look soulless and uninterested in their daily lives now that their prime roles have long over run their course, and the focus is not on them anymore so even if something could be done with them it most likely won't happen. Not helping matters is that Boruto is suppose to have his father's personality and attitude, when there is no conceivable reason to and his circumstances don't warrant sympathy because he has family and friends, (is popular, apparently) and not to mention has  new hax powers handed to him on a silver platter so he just seems like a rebellious, ungrateful brat. And that is suppose to be the main character. Ultimately the writing gives no reason viewers should care about this story or what it's about because ultimately it is a desperate attempt to milk out a franchise that should have ended years ago. It really has nothing it is going for in a narrative sense. which leads to my next point.

 

2. I say that Boruto's  lack of heart is the primary reason for it being not as popular as hoped, but I can't deny that the pacing also plays a huge part in the equation. the fact of the matter is Boruto releases once a month but with every release, nothing happens. the plot is moving at a snails pace, characters are being introduced as nothing but for Naruto to have something to do, They add in random plot elements, because it's suppose to be important later but don't elaborate why, etc. This speaks to me that Boruto really lacks direction. I mean, recall the very first chapter, which was just shock value to get the readers' attention. the village is destroyed we see an older  Boruto fighting an a person that can be assumed to be his "Sasuke" and proclaims Naruto is dead, and then it is saying the story moves back in time to show case a "How we got here" scenario, but there is nothing that is being done to showcase or foreshadow that is to come. Except for Kawaki's introduction, and maybe what transpired recently with Naruto being sealed of something along those lines. But still, my point is that first chapter wanted to go off with a bang that then saying that the story is gong from the past to right at that  very moment but you barely see anything to garner interest and it seems to just waiting for the opportune moment to place everyone into their starting positions for those first few panels kind of like how Star wars Episode III sets up Episode IV

 

3. this is an accumulation of my point 1. and 2. This guy claims that for Boruto to be successful on both manga and anime fronts the manga needs to step  up its game and do a "shippuden" to get the plot going but I would argue what would be the premise of that? What would warrant to have that time skip/ part II of the series? Naruto had plenty of time to develop it's plot and what direction it was going in when Part II was published but Boruto has barely gotten started on anything. the only thing it has going for it is again the whole opening scene in chapter 1 but again the manga is not going anywhere with it and is busy doing it's own thing to to try scrape by as is because again I see a huge lack of direction and heart in this series because the Plot of Naruto's story has reached the end of it's thread and and having the story focusing on his son now is only "pumping the well bone dry" and is destroying the fundamental themes and messages of its predecessor. The anime is in decline because of fillers? NEWS FLASH. Boruto's entire run is almost made up almost entirely filler and rehashes of previous story arcs like the Sarada gaiden and the movie. Naruto's filler arcs at least were done after some of the source material has been animated and the year long "filler festival" after the Sasuke retrieval arc was so that the story can progress with Part II but here they are giving Boruto a lot of time to develop it's plot, and it is still coming up empty mostly. The plot is taking too long to play out, and is solely depending on "coolness factor" to run the show, with Naruto and Sasuke to an extent fighting against enemies is that have to measure up to their story breaker powers by having even more of a story breaker power, and adding nothing else to the table, while trying to figure out how to play into that whole chapter 1 scenario with Naruto's "death" and Konoha village destroyed

 

In short, nothing this guys suggests will actually make up for Boruto's fundamental problem. that being, it was made without planning or foresight It just came out as a proposition by greedy nutcases that wanted to keep mooching of of this franchise and the point of making it a great story has long since perished.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong on any of these points or if I am missing anything


Edited by Phantom_999, 11 January 2020 - 05:39 AM.

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Posted 05 November 2019 - 03:04 PM

 

 
I want to see some peoples' thoughts before I give my two cents.
 
Boruto Badly Needs a Relaunch 
 
Boruto: Naruto Next Generations has managed to become a successful continuation of the Naruto saga, despite early skepticism about the series and its central protagonist. If nothing else, Boruto has managed to get fan support behind it for its vision of the adult lives of Naruto and his friends, showcasing how the characters have grown up (in both personality and power) in some touching and/or exciting ways. However, despite Boruto managing to find its footing and justify its own existence, there are still some pretty big problems with how the series is progressing. That's why Boruto badly needs a relaunch... and soon.
 
WARNING: Don't read below if you are worried about any SPOILERS for the Boruto anime and manga! Make sure you're all caught up first!
 
 
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Looks like Boruto anime is successful on Tv Tokyo profits. It's still number 2 April-September 2019.
However sad news for the manga. It has been declining with each volume in terms of sales. Even though the content is getting better and better with each volume.
 
A new report has come out of Japan, detailing the current anime ratings. As it turns out, Boruto: Naruto Next Generations is doing well on the anime front, but when it comes to the manga source material, the analaysis (bad spelling do they not have an editor?) isn't nearly as positive. According to TV Tokoyo, the Boruto anime is second only to the main Naruto series when it comes to profitability, however, the Boruto manga has been tanking hard, with every subsequent new volume. In fact, the latest volume of Boruto's manga has barely touched 150K after 4 weeks of release. Needless to say, that's not a very good sign that Boruto's manga will be in it for the long run, which is a shame as the manga's current story arc has been getting rave reviews (especially from longtime Naruto fans) for its epic levels of action and game-changing mysteries. In fact, so much of what's happening in the Boruto manga right now is crucial for pushing the series (and entire Naruto mythos) forward in significant ways that cannot be ignored.
 
So what's to be done with Boruto, now that its anime and manga are so out of sync? Well, the most mutually beneficial thing may be (if you haven't realized from the headline) is giving Boruto a relaunch that solves that very problem.
 

 

Maybe its because the filler makes the world less crapsack then the manga does. What I mean by that is because there is plenty of contrived cuteness in the filler that the manga lacks to soften the blow of ruining all the old characters people like it more :zaru:

Purely anecdotal, but i feel like at least half the fandom was decimated by the subsequent blows that kept getting handed out to NS, Sakura, and even just Team 7's closeness in general. No one ever imagined this was what their adult lives would be like and it sucks. It's hard to give a damn about these kids, I'm not attached to them, why should I be? Boohoo poor Burrito's self-worth complex is sooo sad. Meanwhile his dad is barely recognizable as that guy we all rooted for, for 10+years. 

as far as the Anime goes, at this point its not really a ninja story its a Slice of Life story with ninja elements imo. 


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#28079 RulesofNature

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Posted 05 November 2019 - 03:18 PM

Anime is often supposed to act as promotion, a way to encourage viewers to support it through the power of capitalism. Often times, leads to people picking up the manga because it's shorter and far cheaper to do so. So if the manga sales are tanking, that's more important than the ratings.


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#28080 Tsuki Hoshino

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Posted 05 November 2019 - 04:35 PM

yea but even if the manga tanks as long as the Anime can still generate cash they could probably still continue it under full SP control. 


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