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#47741 VanitasDS76491

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 02:50 AM

I now know 2 other strong female characters that would destroy hinata in a fight, I've been watching a playthrough of xenoblade chronicles 2, and pyra/mythra and nia would crush her completely. especially pyra/mythra being she and rex are able to go faster than the speed of light.
 
 
also what have I missed? has boruto gotten any worse?

Dude I could make huge list of female characters that beat hinata like nothing, he'll temari, konan, kushina, tenten could beat her. Also ruby, Weiss, Blake, yang could. Kairi from kingdom hearts can beat her.
Has it ever stopped not being awful?
  

No offense but I think any female character in anime and games will beat her. I mean Hinata has proven to be strong enough to be able to beat white Zetsu clones when it was proven that Zetsu was the weakest member of Akatsuki lol. :zaru:
 
Also Boruto will always get worse with each episode so no need to ask a trick question.

Agreed sakura was beating thing more powerful zetsu.
Again I say beating zetsu is like beating a shadow heartless or a putty from power rangers, it least the cogs and quatrons would put up a fight.
Hell I wish Thanos would show up randomly in the war and take over, cause it'd be more entertaining instead of haxed Madara or random kaguya.

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 05:01 AM

Dude I could make huge list of female characters that beat hinata like nothing, he'll temari, konan, kushina, tenten could beat her. Also ruby, Weiss, Blake, yang could. Kairi from kingdom hearts can beat her.
Has it ever stopped not being awful?
   Agreed sakura was beating thing more powerful zetsu.
Again I say beating zetsu is like beating a shadow heartless or a putty from power rangers, it least the cogs and quatrons would put up a fight.
Hell I wish Thanos would show up randomly in the war and take over, cause it'd be more entertaining instead of haxed Madara or random kaguya.

Speaking of, can't wait to see the results of her training with Lea/Axel in that time dilation room Merlin made. She's gonna be a beast in KH3.

 

As for Hinata, toss her into any fighting game:  Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, King of Fighters/Fatal Fury, Samurai Showdown,  Tekken, Soul Calibur, Skullgirls, Guilty Gear, Blazblue, Killer Instinct, or Under Night In-Birth.  I guarantee you that the female combatants would tear her to pieces.


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Posted 08 January 2018 - 08:56 AM

 

No offense but I think any female character in anime and games will beat her. I mean Hinata has proven to be strong enough to be able to beat white Zetsu clones when it was proven that Zetsu was the weakest member of Akatsuki lol. :zaru:

 

Also Boruto will always get worse with each episode so no need to ask a trick question.

And the White Zetsu clones were even WEAKER than the normal Zetsu because the White Zetsu clones were literally just mindless and soulless cannon fodder drones made purely for numbers and to distract or tire out the shinobi forces while the REAL muscle were the Edo Tensei zombies. Even Konohamaru would probably have had little trouble taking out a few himself. I mean, he was able to land a Rasengan on one of Pein's bodies whereas Hinata couldn't lay a single finger on one, but rather was effortlessly one-shot by it.


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Posted 08 January 2018 - 10:51 AM

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 12:25 PM

Speaking of, can't wait to see the results of her training with Lea/Axel in that time dilation room Merlin made. She's gonna be a beast in KH3.
 
As for Hinata, toss her into any fighting game:  Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, King of Fighters/Fatal Fury, Samurai Showdown,  Tekken, Soul Calibur, Skullgirls, Guilty Gear, Blazblue, Killer Instinct, or Under Night In-Birth.  I guarantee you that the female combatants would tear her to pieces.

Agreed but even before kairi trains she could beat her. I personally hope kairi is as badass as aqua in kh3. Ya kitana,jade, mileena,chunli, cammy, juri, ivy, Nina, Xiaou, noel, rachel, nu-13, Leona, mai, chizuru, blue Mary, orchid,

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 08:05 PM

Yeah, Hinata basically isn't in love with Naruto himself, she's in love with the IDEA of who she thinks Naruto Uzumaki, like you said. And she never believed in Naruto and what he could do. It's why she didn't seem to think he could beat Kiba, or how she mentally said "no more" after Neji hit Naruto with the 8 Trigrams 64 Palms, or her overreaction to Obito/Tobi kicking Naruto ONCE. And her biggest lack of faith in him REALLY showed when he fought Pain/Nagato, which almost got her and everyone else killed because she couldn't stand back and believe in him.

 

... I just had a massive revelation. Hinata views Naruto as moe. It makes perfect sense. She looks at Naruto, her supposed idol, and ultimately feels the urge to protect him. Protect him from failure at the Chunin exams despite how it would affect both of their teams advancements if they got caught, protect him from enemies (or just be upset that he's going to lose) even if it means jumping into dangers far above her level rather than believe he can win, even criticisms from his children (trying to guilt Boruto or saying she doesn't want to trouble Naruto with something so minor as a DYSFUNCTIONAL RELATIONSHIP between him and their son). She fails to acknowledge just how strong Naruto actually is when she believes that as someone who retired at Chunin rank to be a housewife she can save him despite him being Hokage,  which is disgusting when Naruto's entire childhood was seeking attention and acknowledgement by those around him. She treats him like an overprotective parent treats their child, not as a wife.

 

I'm goddamn speechless right now. She doesn't recognize who he has become, she still sees him as that little boy she knew at the academy all those years ago.


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Posted 08 January 2018 - 08:30 PM

 

... I just had a massive revelation. Hinata views Naruto as moe. It makes perfect sense. She looks at Naruto, her supposed idol, and ultimately feels the urge to protect him. Protect him from failure at the Chunin exams despite how it would affect both of their teams advancements if they got caught, protect him from enemies (or just be upset that he's going to lose) even if it means jumping into dangers far above her level rather than believe he can win, even criticisms from his children (trying to guilt Boruto or saying she doesn't want to trouble Naruto with something so minor as a DYSFUNCTIONAL RELATIONSHIP between him and their son). She fails to acknowledge just how strong Naruto actually is when she believes that as someone who retired at Chunin rank to be a housewife she can save him despite him being Hokage,  which is disgusting when Naruto's entire childhood was seeking attention and acknowledgement by those around him. She treats him like an overprotective parent treats their child, not as a wife.

 

I'm goddamn speechless right now. She doesn't recognize who he has become, she still sees him as that little boy she knew at the academy all those years ago.

 

You know, you might be right!... And it is scary to think about that....



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Posted 08 January 2018 - 08:34 PM

 

... I just had a massive revelation. Hinata views Naruto as moe. It makes perfect sense. She looks at Naruto, her supposed idol, and ultimately feels the urge to protect him. Protect him from failure at the Chunin exams despite how it would affect both of their teams advancements if they got caught, protect him from enemies (or just be upset that he's going to lose) even if it means jumping into dangers far above her level rather than believe he can win, even criticisms from his children (trying to guilt Boruto or saying she doesn't want to trouble Naruto with something so minor as a DYSFUNCTIONAL RELATIONSHIP between him and their son). She fails to acknowledge just how strong Naruto actually is when she believes that as someone who retired at Chunin rank to be a housewife she can save him despite him being Hokage,  which is disgusting when Naruto's entire childhood was seeking attention and acknowledgement by those around him. She treats him like an overprotective parent treats their child, not as a wife.

 

I'm goddamn speechless right now. She doesn't recognize who he has become, she still sees him as that little boy she knew at the academy all those years ago.

 

 

You know, you might be right!... And it is scary to think about that....

I guess we can conclude that Kishimoto is in fact a genius.

 

He made the perfect manga about a boy who was mentally raped into marriage with a woman who was his life long stalker  and a deeply troubled person.

 

Open your eyes people. Its a horror manga. Its kinda like that movie where Nicole Kidman had amnesia and she lived with her stalker/rapist/would be murderer.


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Posted 08 January 2018 - 09:07 PM

 

... I just had a massive revelation. Hinata views Naruto as moe. It makes perfect sense. She looks at Naruto, her supposed idol, and ultimately feels the urge to protect him. Protect him from failure at the Chunin exams despite how it would affect both of their teams advancements if they got caught, protect him from enemies (or just be upset that he's going to lose) even if it means jumping into dangers far above her level rather than believe he can win, even criticisms from his children (trying to guilt Boruto or saying she doesn't want to trouble Naruto with something so minor as a DYSFUNCTIONAL RELATIONSHIP between him and their son). She fails to acknowledge just how strong Naruto actually is when she believes that as someone who retired at Chunin rank to be a housewife she can save him despite him being Hokage,  which is disgusting when Naruto's entire childhood was seeking attention and acknowledgement by those around him. She treats him like an overprotective parent treats their child, not as a wife.

 

I'm goddamn speechless right now. She doesn't recognize who he has become, she still sees him as that little boy she knew at the academy all those years ago.

 

Hinata has a huge obsession for Naruto just like Sakura has an obsession for Sasuke. However NH fans are okay with Hinata being like that with Naruto. But if it's Sakura over Sasuke they insult her, the same hypocrisy all over again. :zaru:  


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Posted 08 January 2018 - 10:22 PM

... I just had a massive revelation. Hinata views Naruto as moe. It makes perfect sense. She looks at Naruto, her supposed idol, and ultimately feels the urge to protect him. Protect him from failure at the Chunin exams despite how it would affect both of their teams advancements if they got caught, protect him from enemies (or just be upset that he's going to lose) even if it means jumping into dangers far above her level rather than believe he can win, even criticisms from his children (trying to guilt Boruto or saying she doesn't want to trouble Naruto with something so minor as a DYSFUNCTIONAL RELATIONSHIP between him and their son). She fails to acknowledge just how strong Naruto actually is when she believes that as someone who retired at Chunin rank to be a housewife she can save him despite him being Hokage,  which is disgusting when Naruto's entire childhood was seeking attention and acknowledgement by those around him. She treats him like an overprotective parent treats their child, not as a wife.
 
I'm goddamn speechless right now. She doesn't recognize who he has become, she still sees him as that little boy she knew at the academy all those years ago.

That's actually eye opening about this and more frightening.

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 12:07 AM



Dude I could make huge list of female characters that beat hinata like nothing, he'll temari, konan, kushina, tenten could beat her. Also ruby, Weiss, Blake, yang could. Kairi from kingdom hearts can beat her.

 

Oh PSHHHHHH,  take any  physically and emotionally strong female from any action/fighting oriented series and they would not only beat Hinata, they would obliterate her and desecrate her corpse! and that is WITH both heands tied behind the female in question's back and Hinata post having her  "N-Naruto-kun!-gasms"! :zaru:  

 

Hell, she would lose to OTHER "moe" female fighters like Noel from BlazBlue

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At least Noel develops as a character and is not just crush minded, And Sakura Kinomoto from Cardcaptor Sakura only needs a good smack with the power card :yes:


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Posted 09 January 2018 - 01:19 AM

 

Oh PSHHHHHH,  take any  physically and emotionally strong female from any action/fighting oriented series and they would not only beat Hinata, they would obliterate her and desecrate her corpse! and that is WITH both heands tied behind the female in question's back and Hinata post having her  "N-Naruto-kun!-gasms"! :zaru:  

 

Hell, she would lose to OTHER "moe" female fighters like Noel from BlazBlue

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At least Noel develops as a character and is not just crush minded, And Sakura Kinomoto from Cardcaptor Sakura only needs a good smack with the power card :yes:

 

Are you kidding? Noel the Vermilion would own Hinata's ass before she could even get the chance to attack her. 


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Posted 09 January 2018 - 01:56 AM

I do have to wonder what Hinata could have been if she hadn't just been relegated to the role of Naruto's Yamato Nadeshiko. Pre time skip she does seem to be stronger than most of the other Konoha kunoichi her age, keyword being seem.

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 02:05 AM

I do have to wonder what Hinata could have been if she hadn't just been relegated to the role of Naruto's Yamato Nadeshiko. Pre time skip she does seem to be stronger than most of the other Konoha kunoichi her age, keyword being seem.

 

Yeah, I know what you mean, and that's one thing with the ending that pissed me off too... @_@ The lost potential Hinata had going for her



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Posted 09 January 2018 - 02:33 AM

Are you kidding? Noel the Vermilion would own Hinata's ass before she could even get the chance to attack her.

Noel has guns so that's a win.

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 03:00 AM

 

Hell, she would lose to OTHER "moe" female fighters like Noel from BlazBlue

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At least Noel develops as a character and is not just crush minded,

 

You talking about my Noel against the "unimportance"?! This is no contest. Noel (Mu-12), Lambda, Nu and even Saya/Izanami will get rid of unimportance. Nu especially with her yandere tendencies.


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Posted 09 January 2018 - 03:21 AM

Noel has guns so that's a win.

Aren't they actually, legendary reality-warping guns? It seems completely ridiculous to put Hinata up against this character. BlazBlue is a crazy ass setting.



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Posted 09 January 2018 - 03:32 AM

The real question is, could Hinata take on Yamcha?

 

 

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Hinata has a huge obsession for Naruto just like Sakura has an obsession for Sasuke. However NH fans are okay with Hinata being like that with Naruto. But if it's Sakura over Sasuke they insult her, the same hypocrisy all over again. :zaru:  

 

 

That's actually eye opening about this and more frightening.

 

The one thing that ultimately stuck out in my mind was how Hinata refuses to acknowledge how strong Naruto actually is. He is the Hokage, one of the most powerful ninjas of all time, he saved the freaking world for crying out loud. And yet she believes if he's in trouble she, someone who retired at chunin rank, will be enough to save him. It's like she believes she's on the same level, no, she's on a higher level than Naruto is because she has to save him. This is what I mean by her not acknowledging her husband's strength, and in some ways looks down on him.

 

She thought he couldn't handle Kiba, Neji, Pain and whoever she left her children behind to go fight. She believes he can't handle any issues stemming from Boruto. She still sees him as the poor little orphan he once was, the kid who had it so rough she just wanted to show him all sorts of affection. It's demeaning. And the fact she put a boy she never interacted with above her teammates, her family, and her children just makes it unsettling. Tenten was right, she comes across less as someone in love and more as someone with an unhealthy obsession.

 

And again, Naruto's whole deal was his desire for acknowledgement and yet he's married to someone who doesn't even understand who he is. All he is to her is that lonely boy sitting on the swing when no one else was looking. Like he's a wounded animal she wants to care for.


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Posted 09 January 2018 - 03:50 AM

The real question is, could Hinata take on Yamcha?

Well, you have to assume that he gets many times stronger than Raditz, who would obviously one shot Hinata with no difficulty. It would have to be Yamcha in his first appearance in Dragon Ball, where he was scared of girls so he would just run away from Hinata. So Hinata wins by forfeit in that case.


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Posted 09 January 2018 - 04:06 AM

i think it depends if its attractive women or not. and hinata is not attractive in the slightest. when fighting she has veins showing around her eyes. the bowl cut isn't cute either and those baggy clothes make her look fat.

 

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