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[James S Cassidy]

It all cycles back to the Sakura hate during the ending of 2009-10. Kishi and Shuiesha were getting hate mails from anti-Sakura fans and no doubt the NH fandom, demanding them to make a heroine switch and taunting Sakura . Even Kishi admitted little girls came up to him and explained how much they hated Sakura. So I'm like, why is only the antis approaching Kishi with the Sakura hate? What happen to her fans and supporters? And its to my believe that Kishi may have been disappointed  in the NS that never showed up to counter the antis and sat back and due nothing about it, which would more likely confirmed the rumor why he said at the 2015 Jump Festa he could not make NS happen all due to personal reasons. 

 

I believe when Kishi never got the support for Sakura, he gave up on this manga and just said FU to all of us.

The one thing that makes me laugh about this is when it came to supporting Sakura or being pro-Sakura....every opinion was silenced because many believed, and I am quoting a lot of people, that "if they said anything, they would be rude."

I see alot of times people don't want to say something because they don't want to be rude, but then sit back and watch as other people be truly rude to Kishimoto because he HAD to make NH canon and make it all about Hinata. We know NH fans sent him death threats and it might have been what turned it. Not that he was scared for his life, but rather because he got tired of them kittening all the time. So he gave them what they wanted, but not EXACTLY what they wanted because even he admits it would be an asspull.

What I don't get is that people are still be too quiet about all of this hoping these people are smart enough to get the hint, but they are not that smart. Say something...speak of, I say. Stop hiding and pretending that if you say something, it would be rude. You have every right to be angry now with the way the characters were treated.

I still don't get to this day how so many wanted NH and SS so bad, but still call Sakura a "terrible women" for sticking with Sasuke. Did they not want her to be with Sasuke or not? What the hell is wrong with these people? They are never satisfied even if they get what they wanted.

[Narufan85]

I definitely side in the "he grew tired/sick of Naruto" camp happening before any sort of sellout occurred. Tricksie pretty much stole all my points, but I think it's pretty evident that he had a bit of IDGAF attitude in all those post-700 quotes. Same with all the children. There's no imagination or inspiration there. Just poor imitations of the characters we spent 700 chapters following.

[rocci]

@tricksie
No, the story is built to end with naruto vs sasuke. Not pein arc.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

The one thing that makes me laugh about this is when it came to supporting Sakura or being pro-Sakura....every opinion was silenced because many believed, and I am quoting a lot of people, that "if they said anything, they would be rude."

I see alot of times people don't want to say something because they don't want to be rude, but then sit back and watch as other people be truly rude to Kishimoto because he HAD to make NH canon and make it all about Hinata. We know NH fans sent him death threats and it might have been what turned it. Not that he was scared for his life, but rather because he got tired of them kittening all the time. So he gave them what they wanted, but not EXACTLY what they wanted because even he admits it would be an asspull.

What I don't get is that people are still be too quiet about all of this hoping these people are smart enough to get the hint, but they are not that smart. Say something...speak of, I say. Stop hiding and pretending that if you say something, it would be rude. You have every right to be angry now with the way the characters were treated.

I still don't get to this day how so many wanted NH and SS so bad, but still call Sakura a "terrible women" for sticking with Sasuke. Did they not want her to be with Sasuke or not? What the hell is wrong with these people? They are never satisfied even if they get what they wanted.

 

Sure, but it was not rude enough to whoever was in charge of letting anti Sakura fans approached Kishi "in person". Didn't Kishi said that even little girls approach him and told him how much they hated Sakura? So why not the pro-Sakura fans. That's how kitten bias SJ are. WSJ and Viz have been screening out NS SJ adds from Japan for many years, especially Viz's biased translations that down plays most of the NS interactions. The one that really blew up in their face that was Kushina's last words to her son. To me, all this did us justice in the end.

 

 

 

I still don't get to this day how so many wanted NH and SS so bad, but still call Sakura a "terrible women" for sticking with Sasuke. Did they not want her to be with Sasuke or not? What the hell is wrong with these people? They are never satisfied even if they get what they wanted.

 

They never will as long as they see us in their rear view mirror 

[Iwantbuns]

If Kishi's a sell out... then anyone's a sell out. Honestly when you're making anything that's long and awesome, you get to a point where you can't really go much further with the ideas. It has to make a 180 degree turn in the storyline to either make it different and awesome, or different and wrong. I don't know how much sense this makes, but I watch like a lot of tv shows and books... and it usually starts really good, but eventually comes to a point where it goes downhill even though it may not seem like it. Kishi's story was very long and dragged out, and in all truth he was doing everything he was doing for money. The storyline had to continue being good. Romance wasn't really his concern. Bonds and stuff... he added that in very well, but he really didn't bother delving into the more romantic parts of the story. He sort of just let that part of the storyline continue hanging around. The reason for this is simply because he just can't write romance, and he's said that many times. And Naruto is in no way a romance.

 

And that's completely fine with me. Which is why he shouldn't have made the biggest mistake ever by ending his whole show on an element in the story that was never even relevant. It's good to show who gets with who, that's important, but that's not a real ending. At all. It's like... he just wanted to be done with it. Because he basically ended with where they were and just flashforwarded it to the future, on all the pairings. It's not a very fulfilling ending. And what killed it was The Last movie - a movie soully based on Naruto and Hinata falling in love with a bunch of weird NaruHina flashbacks that made no sense. All the characters acted completely different to make the love story make more sense. But it didn't. The whole movie was a big terrible romance thing - and that's how Naruto ended. And I can't see how anyone can be satisfied with that.

 

I would do well with a non-romance ending based on what Naruto is really about. I don't care what pairings would have been canon, but the way it ended was literally ALL about pairings. What exactly did Kishi want to accomplish??

[Bail o' Lies]

The one thing that makes me laugh about this is when it came to supporting Sakura or being pro-Sakura....every opinion was silenced because many believed, and I am quoting a lot of people, that "if they said anything, they would be rude."

I see alot of times people don't want to say something because they don't want to be rude, but then sit back and watch as other people be truly rude to Kishimoto because he HAD to make NH canon and make it all about Hinata. We know NH fans sent him death threats and it might have been what turned it. Not that he was scared for his life, but rather because he got tired of them kittening all the time. So he gave them what they wanted, but not EXACTLY what they wanted because even he admits it would be an asspull.

What I don't get is that people are still be too quiet about all of this hoping these people are smart enough to get the hint, but they are not that smart. Say something...speak of, I say. Stop hiding and pretending that if you say something, it would be rude. You have every right to be angry now with the way the characters were treated.

I still don't get to this day how so many wanted NH and SS so bad, but still call Sakura a "terrible women" for sticking with Sasuke. Did they not want her to be with Sasuke or not? What the hell is wrong with these people? They are never satisfied even if they get what they wanted.

SS and nH were insert sexual fantasies for them. That's really it. Remember it was the anime most of these brats watch when they were in their teens. A lot of people who are a decade or so older than me are still upset that in digimon that tai and sora (I think their names are) didn't get together. While when i watch it i can barely remember those two interacting enough to care about it one way or the other.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 28 November 2015 - 08:42 AM.