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#532050 Naruto 677

Posted by Psychox on 25 May 2014 - 07:07 PM

Like i said, her caring deeply for Sasuke and with the current indicatives, doesnt show that she her nature of her feelings for Sasuke are romantic but they're not selfish anymore.
 
 

This makes some sense.

 

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I'm not arguing her confession to Sasuke btw, i'm not denying that it was selfish, you probably read my post wrongly, she was selfish on the POAL, she was selfish on her confession, it's not a point to argue on here, what i'm saying is bringing it to compare and say "her love for Sasuke is selfish" and "her love for Naruto is selfless" are not valid parameteres since it changed during the course of the story, Sakura's feelings for Naruto didnt showed to be of romantic nature and currently arent different from the ones like Neji, Kushina, Tsunade and other character excluding Hinata because of the reasons posted above.
 

 

 

Did she say - '' Bring Sasuke back for me'' ? No. But to drag him back to the village and to save him from the path he choose . IF you want to think that she wanted that for herself and herself only ,be my guest . I can easily point out the KM4 accident where she yells that she's gonna bring him back for Naruto's sake. The parameters aren't analogical since from part 1 to present Sakura's shown nothing but selfless love for Naruto , for Sasuke however,  it was for her own needs. I doubt any of these characters have chemistry with the main character and blush at his appearance. That's not romance ,however it will contribute for a future possible relationship of romantic matter.  Because Hinata  fantasized about Naruto's hand or what? How can i not question that when her motives of loving Naruto are that he's a major fighter and doesn't give up . That's about it,and that's pure romance? I am missing on all the part where Naruto's whatever are involved and stuff like why else she finds him appealing .

 

 

I'm not talking about Sai, i'm solely pointing out that she having the guts to kill Sasuke and later wanting to save Sasuke when it has nothing to do with the nature of her feelings for Sasuke.
Indicates that those feelings for Sasuke aren't immature but doesn't show that her feelings for Sasuke are of romantic nature.

 

This is how you can confirm it ,right?Via his dialog. Or maybe via the Samurai bridge scene? Yes, otherwise we'll have a team 7 sandwich after the war.

 

 

That's basically what i'm saying, first off her confession, there were no romantic nature on that because she had other issues during the confession like wanting to bring Naruto back and to break the POAL, that alone shows that the purpose of the moment wasnt for Sakura to convey her feelings.
With Kishi showing indicatives that her feelings for Sasuke are still of romantic nature.
About the second part since you mixed the confession with saving Naruto during the war arc.
What she did that is no different than Neji, Kushina and others, and those are the same kind of love, Sakura has yet to show something different than that, which is obvious, that her feelings are of romantic nature, flashbacks tend much to tell about feelings and Sakura during that moment was focused on Naruto's desire to be hokage but not her own feelings for Naruto which is important.
Many people got disappointed with that moment because probably they expected Sakura to think about her moments with Naruto and not wanting to lose him rather than that, and being honest her thoughts focusing on his dream to be hokage when she was pratically dead was kind of weird to me.

 

She had to face her feelings for Naruto without figuring out what they were beforehand. She was trying to hide the truth of what is to be done with Sasuke, that doesn't mean that she lied and it most definitely doesn't imply that she loves Sasuke .And if you're talking about the the 540 scene ,it's pretty obvious that it's a contradiction with words and mental  image drawn.
 What do you want Sakura to do more? There's that, but in those circumstances she's fully centered on Naruto and won't let him die ,she puts her everything for him . What would've been a better image - she thinking of how she loves him and want to kiss him or maybe hold his big hand? In these situations you'll give the mud under your fingernails for the person you care who's apparently fading away by the second.


Romance because she showed indicatives of wanting to be with Naruto romantically speaking off, her comment when she held Naruto hand, her claming she loves him during the pain arc and etc..
[Infatuation desires]

Oh, okay, i didn't know you want Sakura to be like Hinata . Well, Sakura isn't her.
 
 

I dont see how this scene void my argument actually it enforces it, by saying that Sakura's feelings for Sasuke has changed which on my opinion is correct, they likely arent of romantic nature anymore and she's not selfish towards him.

 

Oei, enforces it ? Are you reading word by word or you just read ''has feelings'' ?  There's that duty,kindness that doesn't add up. That's just it, she doesn't  love him romantically ,but bears deep platonic feelings for him , just like you said  -''Neji,Kushina, etc.'' . Naruto has the same feelings for Sasuke, or you're trying to tell me that he has more than that?




#532029 Naruto 677

Posted by Psychox on 25 May 2014 - 05:03 PM

I hate to be the opposition but i think it's going to be a LAP.
First off things arent black and white and Sakura's feelings either if they are still romantic or not, i dont think they are immature anymore.
I remember when i said that Sakura tried to leave Naruto behind during her confession for Sasuke the argument that she was 12 years old and could not be judged because of this, if it's that so the argument here would be the same, Sakura was a girl and it was normal for her to be immature and she was immature on other moments too like the POAL and etc...
 

Oh, so that means that her feelings of caring deeply for Sasuke aren't romantic ,but somehow are more mature than that. What does that mean? Maybe it means that she went from full on in love with him to a universal worshiping of him or something like that. I can't comprehend what you're trying to explain here,mate. 

 

What Sakura did was for herself , not Sasuke and not Naruto ,  each and every  word of her confession screamed  of it . It was all done for herself and nobody else . If memory serves me well , Sakura asked Naruto to bring Sasuke to the village not in her embrace . Now , this could be easily twisted into believing that after Naruto drags Sasuke's ass back to the village she'll have another shot ,but that's speculation and it remained untouched , so we can't make any assumptions on what it is without having any proof whatsoever . Don't dwell in the was ,mate .

 

 

 

Now here comes the second part the "Nature of Sakura's feelings", Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are questionable currently if they are still on romantic nature, during various moments like the confession when she tried to kill Sasuke and when she still wanted to save Sasuke from darkness those alone already indicate that her love for Sasuke are not selfish anymore but however, nothing indicates that the nature of her feelings for Sasuke are still romantic.

 

If we are to believe what Sai said - which many people do ,that she went to kill him because she loves him so much , then her intention was anything but selfless,because he said,she wanted to remember and cherish the old Sasuke ,in other words, she was allegedly doing it for herself. Well no, that's not how it is.

 

 


As for her feelings for Naruto, it's certain they arent romantic in nature, as it was indicated on the confession when it was proved that "she loving Naruto romantically" was proved to be false, and her thoughts about Naruto doesnt indicated romance, like as an example during the CPR on which if it was to indicate romantic feelings the correct flashbacks were to be her moments wiht Naruto not something about hokage.
On which pass the indicative that her love is nothing of romantic yet.
As for "puts Naruto before anything at any cost regardless of whether she will be alone, she shows signs of a deep love".
It's no different than the love Neji, Kushina, Tsunade and other characters showed towards Naruto, excluding Hinata because it was shown to be of romantic nature "if it's stronger or weaker" not the point of this post and that never showed her cherishing Naruto's goals.

 

 

 

Why is this thing always brought up, her alleged fake confession? Oh?During her confession we got in her head and you saw how it was proven to be false and that there were no romantic inclinations ? She wants to make Naruto happy by fulfilling his wildest and most craved  dream and did what she could to keep him alive till the plot kicked in and Minato transferred the other part of Kurama in him.  That's what we call selfless feeling ,because she wants to see him alive,well,smiling and satisfied. More than that in love you can't ask.

Yeah, if it's concerning Hinata it's 100% romance cause her feelings aren't that obvious ambiguous as Sakura's .

 

As to finish, i dont think Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are selfish because if it remained as it is, there's no explanation about why she wants to save Sasuke or even wanting to kill him, regardless the questionable fact is that if it's still of romantic nature or not and as for Naruto, they arent of romantic nature because Sakura didnt give hints it might be that.

 

Yeah, because this down here means a complete void.
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#531544 Naruto 677

Posted by Psychox on 23 May 2014 - 09:05 AM

The rest... It doesn't matter if Naruto does it out friendship and Sakura does it out of romantic feelings. Naruto and Sakura both did pathetic things (for example Naruto hyperventilating and fainting), even if Sasuke was equally evil towards the both of them. I also complained Naruto telling Hagaromo that Sasuke was his friend was pathetic, but it happened. I also complained Sakura loving Sasuke was pathetic, but it happened. I can complain and you can complain, but Kishi likes this a lot.

 

Also, Sakura looks pathetic if she moves on now instead of after the murder attempts. He's ignoring her? How is that worse than trying to kill her? The choice between the two is the better option for her character. Dαrkrєrsŧ understands what I said about this.

Dude, are you 100% sure you're a NS fan? Drama/Angst =/= Romantic love .

 

Pathetic things? You call hyperventilating and fainting pathetic? This is like calling a heart attack pathetic  , Sasuke is someone who Naruto cares quite a lot and him being lost in darkness didn't bring a positive effect on Naruto's feelings overall , pathetic ? That's called a strong bond.

 

I don't know what more has to happen to become clear for people that Sakura doesn't love Sasuke romantically , Kishimoto made a whole dialog - in Kakashi's  mentality how Sakura still cares for Sasuke but doesn't love him that way ,but no, all of that was ''ambiguous'' and she still loves him romantically and her feelings have deepen , even though , she is a kind of girl and is doing it out of duty.
 




#531363 Naruto 677

Posted by Psychox on 22 May 2014 - 07:52 AM

No falling out of love with someone who degrades you, ignores you and tries to kill you 3 times is a pretty valid reason for any person with commom sense, logic and dignity(execpt in Kishi's world of course). That she still has romantic aspirations for Sasuke right now doesn't make her character any justice, it just makes her a fool.
Sakura choosing Naruto over Sasuke is good for NS but I don't see how it's good for her character, her feelings for Sasuke and the love triangle hurt her character more than anything else.


Good, she's a kind girl for trying to help someone who tried to kill her and is doing it because it's her duty not out of love. As long as she doesn't do it because of her tru luv that's acceptable.

Exactly, as i said on tumblr already , if we are to coincide that all those chapters where she allegedly is in love with Sasuke - her ''fake'' confession to Naruto , under the samurai bridge , 540, are indisputable love of romantic matter  , then we have to consider Naruto possibly being in love with Sasuke , cause he wants to save him to from darkness etc. And we all know that's not how it is .




#510636 662 SPOILERS

Posted by Psychox on 22 January 2014 - 06:32 AM

People are already pissed. :lmao:

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#506573 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by Psychox on 07 December 2013 - 09:08 PM

the most ridiculous thing i heard is sakura ignoring naruto after sasuke came back. coz she was happy sasuke was back and called his name first before naruto. never mind sakura had a real talk with naruto about her battle capabilities, she's the only one to worry about naruto when he shield everyone with the cloak, or that she thought about him one whole chapter when shikamaru was going to die.

 

That's what they want or believe ,i don't know. It appears that they will never concede  that Sakura will be over Sasuke and that  red herring Kishi used during Sakura's  confession to Naruto, that also 540 was the horrific dead of NaruSaku, 615 was the next, 632 the last, actually it looks like NS has died quite a lot of times :zaru:  , believe it . We have so many lives , its ridiculous , cats got nothing against us :D.

@James, Too bad however that no matter how many their  numbers ,Naruto plot >their desires.




#506532 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by Psychox on 07 December 2013 - 03:40 PM

okay.. that post didn't make any sense to me lol...

 

from that post it sounds like ns is a formidable monster that needs 2 factions to bring it down  :lmao:

 

Yes, it appears we are some kind of a monster that lurks under the bed or a evil monkey who lives in their closet ,pointing to be very afraid ,cause the manga is ending soon and their false hopes for which they  are clinging will crumble  . From that post a lot of people rioted ,but some are calming the others down ,because there is a plauge running  loose and it needs  to be stopped .

 

 

NS nearly dead after 632? I don't even understand how they come up with such conclusions.

 

I don't know whether to feel irritated or sad that people have gone into such denial.

 

Its both actually. The conclusion is that Sakura blushed at Sasuke ,screamed his name therefore she loves him and Naruto will never be loved so... yeah . When refuted they bail out or start bashing you .

That's why when Sakura was worried about Naruto in the chapter when she entered his heart and gave her all to save Shikamaru ''Naruto needs you...'' the same people began bashing her for that sole purpose ,because their otp's  is sunk lower than Titanic after 631 . Its pure anger , grasping at straws just to bring down NS . It died back in 468/9 , 540, 615 - 631 happens just a joke ,632 ....

I don't know what to say anymore .


 




#506474 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by Psychox on 06 December 2013 - 07:57 PM

That's the definition of trolling, those posts has no logic other than bait people like you and me to reply on the thread as soon as you reply they win.

Then i guess this is the perfect answer to their so called arguments.




#505483 Happy Birthday, Jordannnn!

Posted by Psychox on 27 November 2013 - 11:16 AM

Happy Birthday!  :w00t:  :fist:  :banana:  :smug: 




#504786 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by Psychox on 19 November 2013 - 08:04 PM

I look mostly on 2ch or on my country 55ch but i avoid going on NF and etc...
Last time i went on those sites, One guy obviously NH/SS compared to 631 Minato's comment to DBZ where Goku peeks Bulma's kitten to explain that NS is not going to happen.

 

Wut?


You've got to be kidding me.




#504382 Naruto 655

Posted by Psychox on 15 November 2013 - 04:41 PM

I'm sure some do, but I think most of us are just happy to see a moment between them. It's not romantic, but a moment nonetheless. Romance isn't all there is to them, fortunately.

 

What do you mean about not getting your hopes up? Sakura caring for Naruto won't necessarily lead to anything, her protecting him maybe. But it's not unusual for her, it's just a sweet thing you know. :3

Of course , there is the support ,shouldering each one's pain, burden's , pulling one another from tough situations and being close to one another. Worrying etc. etc. etc. Love is not all about kisses and hugs and all fluffy  stuff,  aid and assistance is also important , the relationship status the most  . Anyways, those are not the equivalent of romantic love ,but a heavy emotion twinges in all that :3.




#504088 Naruto 655

Posted by Psychox on 13 November 2013 - 09:28 AM

Hm




#503238 Naruto 653

Posted by Psychox on 05 November 2013 - 03:48 PM

Early release? Uh oh. Time to place final bet as I think stupid thoughts that could happen.

 

Obito to go back: Yes, no, or twist?

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#503010 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by Psychox on 03 November 2013 - 07:08 PM

 

1.Whats your opinion on the recent tumblr attack on the ns tag about parallels? 

 

2. If NS becomes canon do you think theres going to be  a worldwide tread in twitter and a major shut down on tumblr, Nf ,Nb, and a hate video might get popular enough to be on the news and other social medias.

 

I may be over thinking on the second one, but when you have a fan base thats this crazy and hateful anything can happen.  :sweat:

 

Bah... invaders , whining about NS fans we are guilty we are '' a plauge'' etc., Ignore button FTW! :D

I would recommend some cheese with their whine :D, more i can't provide :lol: .
 

 

Do you guys agree?

 


Second image ,definitely ..

 




#502782 Naruto 653

Posted by Psychox on 31 October 2013 - 10:27 PM

Yes, but why she do that? I mean if naruto dream to become hokage isn't important to her than why sakura try to protect it?

Because she cares for her platonic sibling so much and loves Sasuke ,duh! :zaru:  That's an answer I've got when asked an eerily similar to yours. :D

'' Naruto didn't ask that she should've kept that to her self!'' Like W T F :facepalm: . Or '' She loves Sasuke ,therefore it doesn't count ''.

That logic .