Bail o' Lies

Damn, telegraphed since the chapter of "death". So much for so little...

I think that it was an option but wasn't planned and they were forced to add it to give the daughter powers. So she could fight and be a main character. Of course whether I am right or wrong, this is very by the numbers and generic.

Sorry wasn't sure anyone was going to comment

Honestly, it not much of a problem one could already guess it would happen from last chapter and once you talked about spoilers (which means it was something that either interested or pissed off people enough to talk about.) It was clear what it was. I more just reminding of my policy of not looking at spoilers till the summary so it is an honest reaction and thought at the time. Then edit to fix mistakes. I needed to do something yesterday so I had to cut the ending short and come back to it.

Well Blue, I already guess that when you mentioned the spoilers two days early. Its not like it hard to guess...just kind of annoying. As it is the predictable outcome. No Dragon Ball Super this month. must have went on hiatus while deciding if they should continue it or not.

Summary Time: Chapter 8(9). Nine Tails...is it spoilers if they are not even trying to hide it?

Cover page is Neo-Ino-Shika-Cho...my god, how did they mess this up. Shikamaru's son is suppose to have his mother's eyes, so he isn't just a clone of his father. God, I think Fat Filler has won the worst outfit competition.

Tree-Jenga continues where we last left off surprised that they found the daughter instead of Naruto. Oh, Neo-Ino-Shika-Cho are there too. Tree-Jenga pulls out a book to identify Shikamaru's Son. They chat. Then Tree-Jenga says that Naruto isn't in the village there is only the nine tails' chakra coming from the girl. Tree-Jenga summons tree roots to absorb the daughter just like Sasuke and Moegi...and Shikamaru's son is able to use his shadow powers to free her by pulling the roots off her after they had already captured her...why haven't they tried releasing the other people that have been caught, or is this some contrivance that he was able to release her before she was absorbed? Tree-Jenga compliments the teamwork of Neo-Team 10 as they worked to rescue the daughter. So as he has part of Jenga of the Nice Manners' personality he decides to warn the team that they only plan to eat her but if they continue to interfere, they are on the menu too. Son contacts his father...I am so sick of this constant sensor division telepathic link and the fact that it has become such a major part of the story now.

God the daughter looks awful. She questions why they are going after her...well, she is about as smart as both her parents as Tree-Jenga has said over and over again, that they are after the Nine Tails' chakra in her.

Madoc tries to wake up Nail, and sees Tree-Jenga on the monitor.

Bolt is with Clone Jiraiya....honestly, I question why I have to add that detail to the nickname, at this point most of the cast are just clones of the old cast, even the villains. Clone Jiraiya informs Bolt that his toads see the tree=people in the village...he is actually seeing through his toads through some shared vision...sigh, did Jiraiya even have a power like that? I pretty sure the Toad Elders would have mentioned that the Rinnegan is similar to one of their abilities. Clone Jiraiya tells Bolt to fly to the "Triangles" does anyone know that location in the village?

More back and forth between Tree-Jenga and Shikamaru's Son and he reiterates that he is going to eat her.

Clone Jiraiya sends a toad to Shikamaru.

Nail finally wakes up and senses Bolt...please be smart enough to do enemy of my enemy against the tree people...Nope. He tracks down Bolt and they fight. Nail is no match for Bolt, I swear Nail has been beaten by everyone he tries to fight in like seven chapter out of nine so far, but Bolt is forced to flee because he can't control his karma when nail activates his.

Tree-Jenga fires off a Biju ball. Sarada and the Clone are going to join the fight...WHERE ARE THE ADULTS!?!?! One of the problems story wise with having every single fight in the village is the longer its drawn out the less sense it makes for more adults not to come in and join the fight. Where is Sakura? Where is Lee? Sai? Shino? Konohamaru? Kiba? Chouji? Temari? Are Shikamaru and Ino the only two adults left in the village? Not only that but these Trees just walked into the village and were met by squads of ninja. There should never been a stop to having more leaf village ninja fighting them because, they know where they are. From what I recall from the chunin exam, the plan when the village is attacked is first escort the civilians to safety, then counterattack. They tried to do that during the Pein attack, he just overwhelmed them. Here, you see civilians just milling around. From what I recall, Naruto tended to avoid having big fights in the village as shown and explain during the Itachi-Kisame vs The Teams Jounin-Sensei. That it is a bad idea to have a long drawn out fight in the village as more and more powerful ninja will sense the fight and come to help their fellow villagers. Here, in the sequel, almost every fight is a fight within the village. It increasingly makes the story unrealistic as the thought pulls you out of the story. As it reinforce the fact that the plot doesn't make sense and is built on contrivances.

Neo-Ino-Shika-Cho flees with the daughter...and at the end of the chapter the daughter is brought into her mental world to have a talk with a tiny Kurama....so lets start with something simple, was this planned all along? I suspect, no. This was not planned all along this was added to allow the daughter to be involved in the story, by giving her a super mode and skill sets so she can join in on the fights from now on...I am already resigning myself to that. However, it is reasonable enough through contrivance for people to think it was. Since, it can be seen as a kill and then later revive a character for two ratings boost.

So now the two problems with this revival and its cause.

We were informed in Naruto that when a Jinchuriki dies the tail beast that resides with in them would also die, but would reform itself over time. This happened to the Three Tails Isobu when Rin died. Kurama's baryon mode or Suicide Nuke Mode as I like to call it; anyways it was implied it was different in that it would burn through all the Biju's Chakra and cause them to permanently die. Now next chapter they are going to probably do everything to try and dismiss or justify this. But for the moment. If it doesn't kill the biju and allows them to escape their host without killing them either, why didn't the tailed beast use it in the century they were used as weapons by the villages? Just tell/trick their host about this super mode then go into hiding while they assume the tailed beast is dead. Now they are probably going to make some excuse, that he would have died but their was traces of his chakra in the daughter, and it allowed him to reform. Which leads to another question, why didn't he also reform in Bolt? This also leads to a problem as Naruto was suppose to be The Last Jinchuriki, now Kurama will carry on through his lineage as a convenient super mode for all time. Won't the other villages just be so happy to hear that?

Second this is clearly and ordered over reaction to the over focus on Bolt and Nail in part one. In Part one, incase anyone forgot, it was pretty much Bolt and Ikemoto's new characters, which were mostly villains, that were important. Which means it was pretty much just Nail and bolt for the main cast. The rest of the cast as in the old cast from Naruto and the next generation which are the side characters are almost completely ignored. Not help that neither Bolt or Nail are fan favorites, in fact they are largely disliked, that could justify the over focus on them. So part two Ikemoto was order to focus on more characters. So far it seems to be Bolt, Nail, Salad, Cups, Hime, Moe, Daughter. Fat Filler, Blond Sai, Shikamaru's Son, Konohamaru, Clone Jiraiya, Shikamaru and Ino. 14 characters at the moment, that is too many especially given Ikemoto's writing ability, and the fact that Part two may only have 40 chapters. Naruto main cast was normally 4 Characters: Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura and Kakashi, and Kishimoto struggled with even that.

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gotta love how the minato manga brings us ns fans out of the woodwork

...Again, Other because you watched it, you assume Kishimoto must have watched it, and been inspired by it. When there has never been mentioned of it in any interview. 

What has been mentioned is Slam Dunk, (and how it inspired the Naruto-Sakura-Sasuke dynamic,) which I assume you haven't read/watch.

Other there is a difference between speculating that Kishimoto may have been inspired by something and declaring it to be true. There is no evidence of him being inspired by that dragon quest anime, there is of him being inspired by Slam Dunk.

Had internet problems.

Read the DragonBall Super Chapter. You know if they ended it right here due to Toriyama's death this is a decent ending. The Saiyans are all training together, the Red Ribbon Army stop being a threat, and Goku started to bond with Pan. You could go to the final chapter from here with only a few questions.

A Moment of Silence for the passing of a great artist.

...Now for a story with nothing decent in it.

Summary Time: Chapter 8(8). It doesn't matter...never has there been a title that sums up the entire story more than this.

Cover Page is Tree-Jenga...no, I am not going to bother remembering its name, because i don't remember what it was anyways.

Guh. Bolt declares to Cups that, he is "Cups' Sun and to come find him at anytime"...God, that was as lame as it was corny. It is also not helping as that could be an awful pick up line. Oh and it is made worse by Hime watching and declaring "that it was like too cool. oh my gosh." What worse about an attempted cool moment falling flat is the writer praising themselves over it. Also, this is making my prediction that Hime will fall for Bolt, from the end of part one, more predictable than the Sun rising in the East tomorrow. Nail is behind her wondering why it is taking so long to track Bolt. Oh Mustard is still here, don't know where she has been for the last eight chapters, and she is still worshipping Hime. Oh apparently Hime still lives in the villa outside of the village.

Oh Fucking Finally! Someone tells Shikamaru about the Tree People. Nail decides to mental contact Shikamaru through the sensory division, guess that's their job now to be the psychic phone company. Shikamaru worries about Nail catching onto his conversation with Bolt but Ino says she can keep them separate. Bolt leaves and Nail realizes Bolt left before he could sense him...somehow. I think the story wants this to be the start of him suspecting Shikamaru or someone is working with Bolt.

Cups goes to the villa and is surprised to see Hime there. They and Moe have a conversation about how Nail doesn't care about him. Cups also thanks Hime for allowing him to experience the emotion love. That and his doubts with Nail have lead him to decided to seek self affirmation instead of seeking it from others. And Hime makes it clear he loves "Nail"...god this really is gayer than Naruto; back then they always hid behind brotherly feelings but this is just full out admission.

Oh there had been this random nudist running around so Tree-Jenga and Tree-Sasuke use it to transport to the village to eat Naruto. They can feel him...damn it Sasuke. Thankfully they are sensed and a whole bunch of Mooks come out to greet them. Oh Hime informs Shikamaru what they are and apologizes for not telling him sooner...guess people in Japan were pointing that stupidity out; you know because one of the targets is herself. Tree-Jenga walks into a book story and as a joke Tree-Sasuke ask if Naruto is in there. Nail finds them. Tree- Jenga senses the tailed beast Chakra within Naruto to locate him, but instead they find the daughter...the daughter has inherited both the byakugan from her mother and the nine tails' chakra from Naruto...sigh

Crimson Fox, the assistant is Ikemoto that "volunteered" to work on the Boruto manga, which is a massive failure. However he has been dealing with a burden that should have been Kishi's for the past ten years. To openly stab him in the back would pretty much blacklist him from the industry as no one would be able to trust working for him. If there is to be a rewrite of the ending it has to be handled carefully. Granted I get the increasing feeling that the various companies are tired of Boruto's poor performance.

For stories it always best to go for a simple answer only going more elaborate when the simple doesn't fit.

No matter what it quite clear that Kishimoto didn't really look into his fanbase, more than he was told by others, till after the ending.

Just so everyone understands Slam Dunk is considered THE SHOUNEN SPORTS MANGA. The one that set the standard that all sports manga follow after. It also still one of the most profitable manga ever and I think still in the top ten. It was huge in the 90s.

Phantom/Kagomaru, people don't like the rug pull out from under them. If they get invested in a story they want a satisfying pay off. Part of that for romance if a manga spend years building up a couple they expect them to get together. That not happening greatly annoys the sexually frustrated Japanese.