Jump to content

Close
Photo

The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread


  • Please log in to reply
54175 replies to this topic

#46581 DrK

DrK

    Summoning Master

  • Summoning Master
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,459 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 01 November 2017 - 06:43 AM

His getting beaten up was so unnecessary. What could he possibly have told them about Sasuke? He's a fire and lightning user? He has the same dojutsu that all strong Uchiha have? He can stab you in the lung with his hand?

 

It's really not inspiring to get beaten up over some generic "information I won't give you about my friend". It would be one thing if Sasuke was hiding somewhere and he knew where, but refused to tell anyone. Or if Sasuke had this great weakness that would instantly defeat him. He got his ass kicked for nothing.

 

It was like he was going out of his way to get beaten up just to show how much he loved Sasuke. Which is exactly what Kishimoto had in mind.


Edited by DrK, 01 November 2017 - 06:46 AM.


#46582 My Living Curse

My Living Curse

    MLC

  • Genin
  • PipPip
  • 162 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Shiny Blue Marble
  • Interests:R.I.P Naruto (1999-2009), NaruSaku (always), Bleach, FMA, SnK, Inuyasha, Classic CN, KH2, A:TLA, Classic Yugioh, 90s shows, Good Storytelling (surprise me)

Posted 01 November 2017 - 06:53 AM

His getting beaten up was so unnecessary. What could he possibly have told them about Sasuke? He's a fire and lightning user? He has the same dojutsu that all strong Uchiha have? He can stab you in the lung with his hand?

 

It's really not inspiring to get beaten up over some generic "information I won't give you about my friend". It would be one thing if Sasuke was hiding somewhere and he knew where, but refused to tell anyone. Or if Sasuke had this great weakness that would instantly defeat him. He got his ass kicked for nothing.

 

It was like he was going out of his way to get beaten up just to show how much he loved Sasuke. Which is exactly what Kishimoto had in mind.

 

I agree. Exactly what info could he have said that common sense didn't already dictate? Besides, I use this manga panel a lot, but I still love how Sai tries to knock some sense into Naruto's potato head.  :D  Falls on deaf ears though. 

 

Sai: " Sasuke has done nothing but hurt you"

 

Naruto: "I used to hate him. But Sasuke is my friend! We connected yay!

 

yYbDNzv.jpg


LfUZGEl.gif

 

Naruto on Obito: "He was the COOLEST guy..."  (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻


#46583 DrK

DrK

    Summoning Master

  • Summoning Master
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,459 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 01 November 2017 - 07:16 AM

He was finally able to connect with him after a lot of effort. It's like the sunk cost fallacy. Sasuke is an investment he isn't willing to lose, even though he's already lost more than he could ever hope to gain. And he's not done losing!


Edited by DrK, 01 November 2017 - 07:17 AM.


#46584 sushi.

sushi.

    Heaven and Earth Deity

  • Kyuubi
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,071 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:norway

Posted 01 November 2017 - 11:21 AM

It's basically like, what if Naruto's "love turned into hate" like an Uchiha? But I understand why you would hate it. There's no selfless desire for Sakura to be happy from Naruto. He's completely OOC. And I didn't mean to imply they'd eventually end up like ObiRin. They're over. It's just cynical, selfish and miserable.
 
I have a soft spot for dark Naruto.

Ok I skimread it right before going to sleep so I didn't see that.

I like dark Naruto when written well, but darkness and crying about being friendzoned isn't the same thing. I guess the bitterness counts for something but without stronger factors he came off as whiny and controlling to me.

ナルサク


#46585 DrK

DrK

    Summoning Master

  • Summoning Master
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,459 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 01 November 2017 - 11:24 AM

Ok I skimread it right before going to sleep so I didn't see that.

I like dark Naruto when written well, but darkness and crying about being friendzoned isn't the same thing. I guess the bitterness counts for something but without stronger factors he came off as whiny and controlling to me.

After I slept on it, I decided to delete it. It didn't sound good to me anymore. He was too OOC. I'm writing a story now where instead of flipping his kitten and attacking Sakura, he just hardens his heart and becomes somewhat bitter and jaded, and later Sakura changes her mind and has a hard time of convincing him.


Edited by DrK, 01 November 2017 - 11:26 AM.


#46586 sushi.

sushi.

    Heaven and Earth Deity

  • Kyuubi
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,071 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:norway

Posted 01 November 2017 - 11:28 AM

After I slept on it, I decided to delete it. It didn't sound good to me anymore. He was too OOC. I'm writing a story now where instead of flipping his kitten and attacking Sakura, he just hardens his heart and becomes somewhat bitter and jaded, and later Sakura changes her mind and has a hard time of convincing him.

My favorite dark naruto story is perfectly imperfect love by swagosaurus. The premise is silly but the execution of the characters were great and the fic was really popular when it was ongoing.

ナルサク


#46587 DrK

DrK

    Summoning Master

  • Summoning Master
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,459 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 01 November 2017 - 11:30 AM

My favorite dark naruto story is perfectly imperfect love by swagosaurus. The premise is silly but the execution of the characters were great and the fic was really popular when it was ongoing.

Yeah, that's a great story. I loved the fact that all because Sakura made the decisions she did, not only did Sasuke end up dead, but Naruto didn't even feel anything when he did. That's delicious angst. It's too bad he never finished it.



#46588 VanitasDS76491

VanitasDS76491

    Legendary Ninja

  • Legendary Ninja
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,248 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Interests:Narusaku, Naruto, Bleach,,RWBY, Fairy Tail, Kill la Kill. Dragon Ball Series, Attack on Titan, Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy, Resident Evil, The Last of Us, Hellsing, Yu-Gi-oh, Digimon, Rave Master, The Middle-Earth Saga, Star Wars, Marvel Comics, MCU, Superman, Batman, DC Comics, Metal Gear Series, Transformers Series, Devil May Cry, Bioshock Series, One Piece, Claymore, Full Metal Alchemist, Yu Yu Hakusko, Soul Eater.

Posted 01 November 2017 - 01:51 PM

Yeah, that's a great story. I loved the fact that all because Sakura made the decisions she did, not only did Sasuke end up dead, but Naruto didn't even feel anything when he did. That's delicious angst. It's too bad he never finished it.


Is there a link to that story?

#46589 sushi.

sushi.

    Heaven and Earth Deity

  • Kyuubi
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,071 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:norway

Posted 01 November 2017 - 02:18 PM

Is there a link to that story?

https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4227582/

It's discontinued and very gritty so read at your own risk.

Another story that is dark I love is twist, snap. ItMs not dark Naruto but the tension is the same. It's not dropped but author updates every lightyear. https://m.fanfiction.net/u/5269495/

ナルサク


#46590 Phantom_999

Phantom_999

    Heaven and Earth Deity

  • Kyuubi
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 12,982 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Canada

Posted 01 November 2017 - 05:09 PM

 

...You do realize that I am now actively making parallels between Drunkuto and Homer Simpson because of that image, right? :lmao:

Then again:

 

Hinata/Marge = The complicit/enabling wife.

 

Boruto/Bart = The obnoxious spiky-haired, lazy, disrespectful delinquent.

 

...Oh God. :jawdrop:  

 

Of course, I wouldn't mind seeing Drunkuto strangling Burrito.

 

You actually went there? :mellow: Homer and Marge's relationship is NOWHERE NEAR AS dysfunctional as the NH family! at least their dysfunction is meant to be played for comedy :lmao:


Edited by Phantom_999, 01 November 2017 - 05:09 PM.

3fbe3276d61acb2079b56cd2212a341c14963200


#46591 bthug

bthug

    Special Jounin

  • Special Jounin
  • PipPipPip
  • 866 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 01 November 2017 - 05:40 PM

Drunkuto makes even more sense now. That's why the 10 tails is made up of various beats whose total tails surpass the number 10...

Damn drunk Kishi

#46592 James S Cassidy

James S Cassidy

    Heaven and Earth Deity

  • Banned
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,831 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 01 November 2017 - 05:46 PM

 

You actually went there? :mellow: Homer and Marge's relationship is NOWHERE NEAR AS dysfunctional as the NH family! at least their dysfunction is meant to be played for comedy :lmao:

Homer is actually trying to make amends with his family if/when he messes up. Look at the Simpsons movie where he so utterly screwed up that Marge left her ring and even taped over their wedding video with a message of how he never supported her despite she always supporting him...no matter how crazy it got. I don't know a stronger way of telling someone that the relationship is over.

And yet, he still was willing to go to the ends of the Earth to try and regain his marriage back...even if he failed...better to try and have a chance to succeed than to never try at all.

 

So what's everyone's guess for when Kishi pulls a Rowling and admits that it should have been NS as the final pairing?

I say when around the time boruto starts to fail

Well, never say never I always say, but....

It is very unlikely it will happen. Kishimoto doesn't care anymore and that is the true sad part. It doesn't matter if he admits NS was the intended or not. Heck, I bet you someone could rewrite the whole series and he wouldn't care anymore.

The man is tired of the series and wants to be freed from the nightmare he created.


My gofundme
https://www.gofundme...c-designer-fund

Δικός σου για να κρατάτε
Σ'αγαπώ

#46593 BlueStarSaber

BlueStarSaber

    Elite Jounin

  • Elite Jounin
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 2,355 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:UK
  • Interests:Art, Anime/Manga, Comics, Movies, Fansty Books

    Ships: Narusaku, Peter&MJ, Percabeth & Hicctrid

Posted 01 November 2017 - 06:01 PM

Homer is actually trying to make amends with his family if/when he messes up. Look at the Simpsons movie where he so utterly screwed up that Marge left her ring and even taped over their wedding video with a message of how he never supported her despite she always supporting him...no matter how crazy it got. I don't know a stronger way of telling someone that the relationship is over.
And yet, he still was willing to go to the ends of the Earth to try and regain his marriage back...even if he failed...better to try and have a chance to succeed than to never try at all.
 


Well, never say never I always say, but....
It is very unlikely it will happen. Kishimoto doesn't care anymore and that is the true sad part. It doesn't matter if he admits NS was the intended or not. Heck, I bet you someone could rewrite the whole series and he wouldn't care anymore.
The man is tired of the series and wants to be freed from the nightmare he created.


It's kinda sad the dysfunctional realtionship in adult comedy shows like the simpons, family guy, american dad, south park and rick and morty even at there worst are still better than the ones in manga aimed at 13 years.

The only way I can see this happen if the franchise final dies, but naruhina and sasusaku fans will keep sucking up whatever this series throws at them no matter how stupid it is.

#46594 T XD

T XD

    Heaven and Earth Deity

  • Kyuubi
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,778 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:It starts with ' L '. Guess it :D

Posted 01 November 2017 - 06:15 PM

Thank you. But you're damn good yourself. My mathematician gives you an 11/10, which is ironically the same number Sakura got on the Tsundere equivalent scale

Thanks.

By the way, these mathematicians were so successful with this equation, they got on the news yesterday on BBC. Did you see them on TV ?



#46595 AHK

AHK

    Heaven and Earth Deity

  • Kyuubi
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 7,464 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Jacksonville, FL
  • Interests:One Piece, Tokyo Ghoul, The Breaker, Fairy Tail, BnHA, Twin Star Exorcists, Shokugeki no Soma, Owari no Seraph, BnHA, Akatsuki no Yona, Noragami, Magi, Akame Ga Kill, Attack on Titan, HotD, SAO, HxH, Ao no Exorcist, NnT

    LuNa, Touken, EragonxArya, MiriShep, NS, SoumaxErina, IzuOcha, RokuBeni, NaLu, ShioonxJinnie, YuxShinoa, HakYona, SaberxShirou, Yatori, MK, EreMika

Posted 01 November 2017 - 08:08 PM

Because Sakura is a good person. She does not hold her love of Sasuke above all other things that they do not have worth or meaning. She wished to help Naruto, even if she did not fully believe in his dream. This correlates with a lot of Sakura's actions. You're making Sakura out to be a rather flat character if you think Sasuke is the sole motivator of all things she does. 

What a stupid statement. Sakura was content with Sasuke even after he tried murdering her multiple times, Naruto multiple times, all of her friends and the entire world. Stop trying to lecture people on their grasp and understanding on topics that you yourself completely and utterly misconstrue.

 

Sakura is seriously not a Tsundere. These mathematicians might need to recalculate and reassess their formulas. 

Point and case to the above. Sakura is absolutely a Tsundere, and it's asinine to try and say otherwise.


Edited by AHK, 01 November 2017 - 08:08 PM.

EXL5X4B.png

"I am the One-Eyed King."

 

 


#46596 ThroughWithLove

ThroughWithLove

    Illustrious Tap Dancer

  • Elite Teacher
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,172 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 01 November 2017 - 08:08 PM

Thank you. But you're damn good yourself. My mathematician gives you an 11/10, which is ironically the same number Sakura got on the Tsundere equivalent scale

 

 

Hmmmmmm. Tsundere. Hmmmm. Tsundere. Hmm. Tsundere . . . tsundere . . . tsundere . . . Tsunade . . . Tsunade . . . Sakura's mentor . . .OMG, MIND BLOWN!!!  :shock:


Edited by ThroughWithLove, 01 November 2017 - 08:10 PM.

Posted Image

 

Behold! Akame ga Kill's True Canon Pairing!


#46597 sushi.

sushi.

    Heaven and Earth Deity

  • Kyuubi
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,071 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:norway

Posted 01 November 2017 - 08:19 PM

 

You actually went there? :mellow: Homer and Marge's relationship is NOWHERE NEAR AS dysfunctional as the NH family! at least their dysfunction is meant to be played for comedy :lmao:

Yuppp. Look at this guys.

 

37563.jpg

 

And, the classic.

tumblr_ltt2lcULmq1r4k5f5o1_500.jpg

 

Homer is a family guy, and he is no more violent than any woman with a temper in anime. I think people have a hard time grasping this sense of humour because he's a man. It's ok not to like it, but we must see it for what it is.


ナルサク


#46598 Kagomaru

Kagomaru

    I will be your Light when you're in the Dark

  • Elite Teacher
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,173 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Interests:English/Greek literature, psychology, golfing, anime/manga, and video games.

    OTPs:
    NaruSaku (Naruto x Sakura)
    SoKai (Sora x Kairi)
    Kataang (Aang x Katara)
    GoChi (Goku x Chichi)
    NaLu (Natsu x Lucy)
    LuNa (Luffy x Nami)
    IchiRuki (Ichigo x Rukia)
    CloTi (Cloud x Tifa)
    TouKen (Touka x Kaneki)
    EreMika(Eren x Mikasa)
    AruAni (Armin x Annie)
    Gourrina (Gourry x Lina)
    KenKao (Kenshin x Kaoru)
    InuKag (Inuyasha x Kagome)
    Kirisuna (Kirito x Asuna)
    Sonamy (Sonic x Amy)
    Akizuka (Akira x Shizuka)
    Asaden (Denji x Asa)

Posted 01 November 2017 - 10:20 PM

It's kinda sad the dysfunctional realtionship in adult comedy shows like the simpons, family guy, american dad, south park and rick and morty even at there worst are still better than the ones in manga aimed at 13 years.

The only way I can see this happen if the franchise final dies, but naruhina and sasusaku fans will keep sucking up whatever this series throws at them no matter how stupid it is.

I'm just waiting for Kishimoto to reach his breaking point and make his exit. We know that he's sick of Naruto and wants it to end so he can begin his sci-fi manga (though at this point, he may be too mentally drained and emotionally frustrated to find motivation for it).


Light and Shadow are the only static creations of this universe. 


#46599 TheFirstEvil100

TheFirstEvil100

    Elite Jounin

  • Elite Jounin
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 2,493 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:England
  • Interests:Reading and watching Naruto, play on my PS3 playing on my Pokemon games mainly Pokemon X right now I also like watching good Horror films.

Posted 01 November 2017 - 11:19 PM

I'm just waiting for Kishimoto to reach his breaking point and make his exit. We know that he's sick of Naruto and wants it to end so he can begin his sci-fi manga (though at this point, he may be too mentally drained and emotionally frustrated to find motivation for it).

Thing is he should not doing any Manga dude sucks its as simple as that really, best thing for Kishi to do is never work on Manga again and leave it to his brother to do manga as we all know that he is a lot better than Kishi in many ways, Kishi is better to just stay as a editor or find another job maybe he can still draw, but he should never make a Manga again.



#46600 VanitasDS76491

VanitasDS76491

    Legendary Ninja

  • Legendary Ninja
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,248 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Interests:Narusaku, Naruto, Bleach,,RWBY, Fairy Tail, Kill la Kill. Dragon Ball Series, Attack on Titan, Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy, Resident Evil, The Last of Us, Hellsing, Yu-Gi-oh, Digimon, Rave Master, The Middle-Earth Saga, Star Wars, Marvel Comics, MCU, Superman, Batman, DC Comics, Metal Gear Series, Transformers Series, Devil May Cry, Bioshock Series, One Piece, Claymore, Full Metal Alchemist, Yu Yu Hakusko, Soul Eater.

Posted 01 November 2017 - 11:49 PM

https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4227582/
It's discontinued and very gritty so read at your own risk.
Another story that is dark I love is twist, snap. ItMs not dark Naruto but the tension is the same. It's not dropped but author updates every lightyear. https://m.fanfiction.net/u/5269495/

The links don't work.




9 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 9 guests, 0 anonymous users