Academy Teacher
Posted 22 November 2015 - 05:48 AM
...........seriously, we might as well the fans make our own Naruto The Last movie and call it canon. I bet you we can even get Junko to be on board with the series if we payed enough.
"I want it all to be a memory"
Riiiight....more like nightmares.
YAY! where will the movie be? on here, youtube, or another media site?
Heaven and Earth Deity
Posted 22 November 2015 - 08:27 AM
YAY! where will the movie be? on here, youtube, or another media site?
Maybe an episodic OVAs.
Ichigo gunyu
Posted 22 November 2015 - 09:40 AM
hahaahha I laughed so hard when I saw the number 2 ! http://orzzzz.com/to...referral&page=3
Solo Leveler
Posted 22 November 2015 - 09:43 AM
oh my i just found out the director for the last, Tsuneo Kobayashi (also famous for Twelve Kingdoms / Emma: A Victorian Romance ) just passed on this may 2015, 50 years old
Wow. That sad. I hope this is not the death curse.
"My name is Sung Ji-woo. Some called me the Assassin of Death. A Necromancer Deity... My journey has been nothing but walking over a mountain of corpses. My legion of the dead reigns supreme. None shall block my way or... face the wrath of my blades!" --Solo Leveling.
Heaven and Earth Deity
Posted 22 November 2015 - 12:59 PM
"it was requested that we make Naruto the main character of the movie as opposed to having a guest character for this work"
Wait it had to be requested that Naruto be a main character in a movie called "NARUTO THE LAST MOVIE?" Who were they thinking would become the main character of the movie? That is what i want to know. That's stupid. How could he say this in a interview.Is he not self aware?
"From there, we thought about what Naruto was lacking, and came up with “romantic feelings.” It was decided that we would make Naruto’s last movie a “romance movie” instead of an “action movie.”
And look how it turned out from there. The thing people hated about it was that it was a movie solely focus on the romance the fact that the romance and how they got together were so poorly thought out and done just made it worse.
"Naruto wearing a red scarf, holding hands with Hinata and sprinting through a space with floating bubbles of light that projected their memories."
...That was the first idea that pop into their heads? The most ridiculous and corniest moment in the entire movie. This were the people behind that the last? If that the case then the last never had a chance at being good.
"For the story of this production, we thought backwards to what kind of episode we ought to make in order to tie to this scene."
So they built the entire movie around the scarf and this scene?...*throws arms up into the air* (Edit: Episode not chapter?)
"The Hyuuga residence in particular is an important setting when it first makes its appearance, so using the Hyuuga residence in the original work as a reference, we went on location to an old family mansion and remade the setting."
Didn't we kind of see the Hyuuga's residence in both the manga (before the time skip) and the anime (a lot of filler) already?
"We tried making the color scheme in the scene where Naruto confesses to Hinata like that of a Gogh painting, with the blue water and the shining golden butterflies."
God that sounds pretentious! And once again it all about images and looks and style and not story. The writer and director care more about how scene looks then what is said in those scenes!
"In the dream scene where Naruto, who is dense about romantic love, realizes Hinata’s feelings, it was interesting to mix up the order of the past episodes and put them together randomly like a puzzle. We thought of many patterns for how to put together the episodes until the current Naruto sees Hinata at the academy writing his name on her paper."
He wasn't "dense in figuring out romantic feeling" it just that he wasn't interest in dating hinata and was attracted to sakura. He knew what hinata's confession was and didn't reciprocate it. Once again style and look over what is said in the scene.
"I think it was difficult to come up with images for this work, and we originally created Toneri with an image like that of young Johnny Depp as Edward Scissorhands. Toneri can’t understand the feelings of others because he lived alone on the moon since he was young, and so he’s a character who lacks romance for reasons different from Naruto’s."
My god. Those idiots. Do they not get what he is saying. That means it was a rivalry and a competition between those two. So what we were saying about Naruto now only caring about hinata because it was a competition is right. Did anyone think he looked like that? He honestly look-like a generic white hair anime pretty boy.
We had the scenario checked by Kishimoto-sensei. I appreciate that amidst being busy with serialization, he kindly gave us various advice. He also wrote some of the important lines such as, “It takes time to knit a scarf.”
That not a line to be proud of... was that really the best kishi offered you for this story?!
By the way, we made sure to show the key shot of Hinata facing sideways. The side-facing heroine is homage to Alfred Hitchcock’s impressively produced “Vertigo” and director Nobuhiko Obayashi’s “Sabishinbou.”
Once again looks were more important than the story's plot.
Since this production is Naruto’s last movie, I tried to have fun while looking back on “Naruto’s memories,” then I put my feelings that this would be a work of everyone’s new “memories” into directing. I will be happy if this production always stays in the corner of everyone’s heart as a “memory.”
....Was that an admittance to the retcons??? Yes it will stay in the hearts of anime fans alright... with burning hatred, because for it to make money it basically had to steal from it's Japaneses audience. (Edit: everything else from that quote is too stupid to comment on)
Wait it wasn't kishimoto that came up with the stupid scarf idea but the writer or the movie...They were hoping on the idea of kishi saying it would soften up the fans to the movie before it even aired. Also hanabi you're right it "aesthetics over everything else." If that was the entire interview than the only time he came close to talking about anything story/plot related was the idea about toneri character and even then he messed up and talk pretentiously about what inspired his looks.
...Also one more thing notice how he keeps going on and on about getting ideas from episodes not chapters. So this was an anime inspired idea that gave little importance to the manga in was suppose to be canon to, and it suppose to be based off of.
Edited by Bail o' Lies, 22 November 2015 - 08:00 PM.
Kyuubi
Posted 22 November 2015 - 01:39 PM
My voice is deep but goofy. That sounds like a Naruto type voice.I'd like to, but my voice is terrible. So I'm just gonna voice Akamaru...
Legendary Ninja
Posted 22 November 2015 - 04:38 PM
"it was requested that we make Naruto the main character of the movie as opposed to having a guest character for this work"
Wait it had to be requested that Naruto be a main character in a movie called "NARUTO THE LAST MOVIE?" Who were they thinking would become the main character of the movie? That is what i want to know. That's stupid. How would say this in a interview are they not self aware?
Yes, I saw that too and it gave me pause. What exactly does that mean? Was Toneri supposed to be the main character? Or was it Hinata? (Which technically it was anyway.) This says to me that the movie was originally supposed to center around Toneri with Naruto appearing only to save Hinata, but they decided to turn it into a super-romance instead of an action movie, with Hinata acting as heroine/damsel-in-distress. I think this line is very revealing that they didn't care at all about the manga series. They had other ideas for characters, and Naruto was just to play a supporting role (which technically he did).
"Naruto wearing a red scarf, holding hands with Hinata and sprinting through a space with floating bubbles of light that projected their memories."
...That was the first idea that pop into their heads? The most ridiculous and corniest moment in the entire movie. This were the people behind that the last? If that the case then the last never had a chance at being good.
"For the story of this production, we thought backwards to what kind of episode we ought to make in order to tie to this scene."
So they built the entire movie around the scarf and this scene?...*throws arms up into the air*
Honestly, this to me says that they came up with some highly marketable scenes/gimmicks and then reversed-engineered a movie around them.
"The Hyuuga residence in particular is an important setting when it first makes its appearance, so using the Hyuuga residence in the original work as a reference, we went on location to an old family mansion and remade the setting."
Didn't we kind of see the Hyuuga's residence in both the manga (before the time skip) and the anime (a lot of filler) already?
....
By the way, we made sure to show the key shot of Hinata facing sideways. The side-facing heroine is homage to Alfred Hitchcock’s impressively produced “Vertigo” and director Nobuhiko Obayashi’s “Sabishinbou.”
Once again looks were more important than the story's plot.
Since this production is Naruto’s last movie, I tried to have fun while looking back on “Naruto’s memories,” then I put my feelings that this would be a work of everyone’s new “memories” into directing. I will be happy if this production always stays in the corner of everyone’s heart as a “memory.”
....Was that an admittance to the retcons??? Yes it will stay in the hearts of anime fans alright... with burning hatred, because for it to make money it basically had to steal from it's Japaneses audience. (Edit: everything else from that quote is too stupid to comment on)
Wait it wasn't kishimoto that came up with the stupid scarf idea but the writer or the movie...They were hoping on the idea of kishi saying it would soften up the fans to the movie before it even aired. Also hanabi you're right it "aesthetics over everything else." If that was the entire interview than the only time he came close to talking about anything story/plot related was the idea about toneri character and even then he messed up and talk pretentiously about what inspired his looks.
...Also one more thing notice how he keeps going on and on about getting ideas from episodes not chapters. So this was an anime inspired idea that gave little importance to the manga in was suppose to be canon to, and it suppose to be based off of.
There is a lot of style over substance, which doesn't bother me so much except that the movie has turned into the animators Love Note to Hinata in the same way the manga ended up being Kishimoto's Love Note to Sasuke.
The time/intention spent on the Hyuugas family home, the fact that they made Hinata have a famous pose, even though it was Naruto's last movie, makes me certain that this was just an NH fanfic run amok.
They say it was about Naruto's last movie so they wanted impact, but all the scenes and all emphasis is put completely on Hinata. Not an homage pose for Naruto, not a picture of his family home, not a villain specifically designed to attack him or something from his history. Nothing at all like that. It was a movie to build up Hinata's importance in a way the manga NEVER did, and then justify why they're together with completely false memories.
And you're exactly right, the fact that these ideas came from episodes rather than chapters really screams that these are the very people who pushed Hinata into the spotlight in the first place. This is completely Hinata's movie. Naruto was just along for the ride.
Academy Teacher
Posted 22 November 2015 - 04:42 PM
that's sad, i really hoped naruto would achieve all his dreams...NICE GOING HINATA YOU RUINED NARUTO'S LIFE WHAT DO YOU GOTTA SAY FOR YOURSELF!?
hinata: -tears up- n-naruto-kun?...-hides in the shadows-
well, that explains alot...she's so ashamed she became a shadow of her SP self lol
Outlaw Gunslinging marksmen
Posted 22 November 2015 - 05:01 PM
"it was requested that we make Naruto the main character of the movie as opposed to having a guest character for this work"
Wait it had to be requested that Naruto be a main character in a movie called "NARUTO THE LAST MOVIE?" Who were they thinking would become the main character of the movie? That is what i want to know. That's stupid. How would say this in a interview are they not self aware?
"From there, we thought about what Naruto was lacking, and came up with “romantic feelings.” It was decided that we would make Naruto’s last movie a “romance movie” instead of an “action movie.”
And look how it turned out from there. The thing people hated about it was that it was a movie solely focus on the romance the fact that the romance and how they got together were so poorly thought out and done just made it worse.
"Naruto wearing a red scarf, holding hands with Hinata and sprinting through a space with floating bubbles of light that projected their memories."
...That was the first idea that pop into their heads? The most ridiculous and corniest moment in the entire movie. This were the people behind that the last? If that the case then the last never had a chance at being good.
"For the story of this production, we thought backwards to what kind of episode we ought to make in order to tie to this scene."
So they built the entire movie around the scarf and this scene?...*throws arms up into the air*
"The Hyuuga residence in particular is an important setting when it first makes its appearance, so using the Hyuuga residence in the original work as a reference, we went on location to an old family mansion and remade the setting."
Didn't we kind of see the Hyuuga's residence in both the manga (before the time skip) and the anime (a lot of filler) already?
"We tried making the color scheme in the scene where Naruto confesses to Hinata like that of a Gogh painting, with the blue water and the shining golden butterflies."
God that sounds pretentious! And once again it all about images and looks and style and not story. The writer and director care more about how scene looks then what is said in those scenes!
"In the dream scene where Naruto, who is dense about romantic love, realizes Hinata’s feelings, it was interesting to mix up the order of the past episodes and put them together randomly like a puzzle. We thought of many patterns for how to put together the episodes until the current Naruto sees Hinata at the academy writing his name on her paper."
He wasn't "dense in figuring out romantic feeling" it just that he was interest in dating hinata and was attracted to sakura. He knew what hinata's confession was and didn't reciprocate it. Once again style and look over what is said in the scene.
"I think it was difficult to come up with images for this work, and we originally created Toneri with an image like that of young Johnny Depp as Edward Scissorhands. Toneri can’t understand the feelings of others because he lived alone on the moon since he was young, and so he’s a character who lacks romance for reasons different from Naruto’s."
My god. Those idiots. Do they not get what he is saying. That means it was a rivalry and a competition between those two. So what we were saying about Naruto now only caring about hinata because it was a competition is right. Did anyone think he looked like that? He honestly look-like a generic white hair anime pretty boy.
We had the scenario checked by Kishimoto-sensei. I appreciate that amidst being busy with serialization, he kindly gave us various advice. He also wrote some of the important lines such as, “It takes time to knit a scarf.”
That not a line to be proud of... was that really the best kishi offered you for this story?!
By the way, we made sure to show the key shot of Hinata facing sideways. The side-facing heroine is homage to Alfred Hitchcock’s impressively produced “Vertigo” and director Nobuhiko Obayashi’s “Sabishinbou.”
Once again looks were more important than the story's plot.
Since this production is Naruto’s last movie, I tried to have fun while looking back on “Naruto’s memories,” then I put my feelings that this would be a work of everyone’s new “memories” into directing. I will be happy if this production always stays in the corner of everyone’s heart as a “memory.”
....Was that an admittance to the retcons??? Yes it will stay in the hearts of anime fans alright... with burning hatred, because for it to make money it basically had to steal from it's Japaneses audience. (Edit: everything else from that quote is too stupid to comment on)
Wait it wasn't kishimoto that came up with the stupid scarf idea but the writer or the movie...They were hoping on the idea of kishi saying it would soften up the fans to the movie before it even aired. Also hanabi you're right it "aesthetics over everything else." If that was the entire interview than the only time he came close to talking about anything story/plot related was the idea about toneri character and even then he messed up and talk pretentiously about what inspired his looks.
...Also one more thing notice how he keeps going on and on about getting ideas from episodes not chapters. So this was an anime inspired idea that gave little importance to the manga in was suppose to be canon to, and it suppose to be based off of.
who know what others movies that focused on looks rather than story/lines?
i'll give you a hint
"Its so dense, every single image has so many things going on."
thats right. the star wars prequels.
Heaven and Earth Deity
Posted 22 November 2015 - 05:55 PM
At least they admitted that the ones responsible for this, are the Hinata fanboys/fangirls working at SP.
Edited by Nostradamus, 22 November 2015 - 06:00 PM.
Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.
Heaven and Earth Deity
Posted 22 November 2015 - 06:27 PM
Yes, I saw that too and it gave me pause. What exactly does that mean? Was Toneri supposed to be the main character? Or was it Hinata? (Which technically it was anyway.) This says to me that the movie was originally supposed to center around Toneri with Naruto appearing only to save Hinata, but they decided to turn it into a super-romance instead of an action movie, with Hinata acting as heroine/damsel-in-distress. I think this line is very revealing that they didn't care at all about the manga series. They had other ideas for characters, and Naruto was just to play a supporting role (which technically he did).
I been wondering that for the past 5 hours i don't think you're wrong but i don't think it was originally focus on Toneri. Remember this is kishi asking the director and writer to make sure Naruto is the main character of a movie call Naruto: The Last Movie. Kishi felt concerned enough to request this and this director felt it was a moment worth telling again with pride as a funny story about the movie production. Why would kishi feel concerned enough to think that Naruto may not be the main character?
Here what i think happened it was obvious that their were probably already planning going on before the meeting about what the movie was going to be about and they were going to kishi with their pitch to get his approval for the movie. So it most likely that kishi had already heard what SP wanted to make the final movie about and the rumor probably was that it was going to be a nH love story focused on hinata. Kishi was on the fence about the pairing until the very last chapter so while he did give his thumbs up he still wanted it to be about Naruto as the main character.
So i think it was originally a story about hinata as the main character trying to win Naruto love before anything else was added.
Honestly, this to me says that they came up with some highly marketable scenes/gimmicks and then reversed-engineered a movie around them.
Yep. They came up with images and scene to get the easily swayed to fall for the romance before they even thought up a thing about the plot.
There is a lot of style over substance, which doesn't bother me so much except that the movie has turned into the animators Love Note to Hinata in the same way the manga ended up being Kishimoto's Love Note to Sasuke.
The time/intention spent on the Hyuugas family home, the fact that they made Hinata have a famous pose, even though it was Naruto's last movie, makes me certain that this was just an NH fanfic run amok.
They say it was about Naruto's last movie so they wanted impact, but all the scenes and all emphasis is put completely on Hinata. Not an homage pose for Naruto, not a picture of his family home, not a villain specifically designed to attack him or something from his history. Nothing at all like that. It was a movie to build up Hinata's importance in a way the manga NEVER did, and then justify why they're together with completely false memories.
And you're exactly right, the fact that these ideas came from episodes rather than chapters really screams that these are the very people who pushed Hinata into the spotlight in the first place. This is completely Hinata's movie. Naruto was just along for the ride.
Once again you're right. This was just the director, the writer, and the animations teams love note to hinata. It was obvious before but this interview just removes any doubt. As for them using episode instead of the manga i notice that a long time ago. That why early on i kept bring up the episode of hinata's confession because that were the story of hinata being bullied and Naruto coming to her rescue came from. I already did a post recently where i put up what happened in the scene in the manga.
Mercenary
Posted 22 November 2015 - 07:22 PM
The questions in my mind is why it has to be hinata?, what about tenten and ino?? . From position point of view they are all the same side character. But why only hinata get everything she ever dream of?
Tenten deserve more than hinata. Seriously the only think we have see about her is her selling some ninja tool in chapter 700, and then no more info about her .... nothing.
At least Tenten was shown to be taking her kunoichi career seriously. I mean, seriously, does anyone think any of the other rookie females, bar maybe Sakura, would ever be able to put up being around Gai and Lee for so long without breaking (primarily over their looks than even their training regiment)? Not to mention Tenten being able to wield the Hagaromo's fan several times, despite presumably not having uber-powerful/copious amounts of chakra like is said to have been required to use or the person could die. Knowing Hinata, she would have passed out after a single, half-hearted swing of it. Looking back, ones like Tenten, Anko, Kurenai, Temari, and other kunoichi that came off as more interesting (along with Sakura as Part 2 went along at first) just so happen to be the ones that had nothing really done with them and/or ended up crapped on by the end.
As for The Last...add it to the long list of movies (live and/or animated) that focused on making it pretty far more than anything else (and The Last doesn't even look that pretty; mentioned before that, compared to the series and previous movies, it looks so boring and lifeless). For so many good-looking movies that ended up bombing, whether immediately or in hindsight, one of the things that they tend to have common is that they looked good. The creators of such things clearly thought that they could distract the audience with everything being made pretty, like a shiny object to a cat, to cover up bland/boring characters, cliche/boring plot, contradicting/hypocritical plot points, etc.; Avatar being one of the biggest culprits. It looked great at the time (but now it's graphics are pretty commonplace), but everything else about it was just boring, cliche, preachy, etc.
The One True Demi-Goddess of Misfortune
Posted 22 November 2015 - 07:31 PM
Honestly, the only Naruto Movie that was ever any good was RTN, and it wasn't because it had NS in it, it was because it didn't end up bringing in needless side characters to push the plot 
It was a success because it used what was already present in the series.
Unlike The Last, which had to retcon like woa, and come up with the most ridiculous BS ever.
Pls shame me for procrastinating. 
Heaven and Earth Deity
Posted 22 November 2015 - 08:01 PM
"We originally created Toneri with an image like that of young Johnny Depp as Edward Scissorhands."
=
Do they even look even the slightest bit alike?
Edited by Bail o' Lies, 22 November 2015 - 08:03 PM.
The One True Demi-Goddess of Misfortune
Posted 22 November 2015 - 08:03 PM
Its not about looks...but lol both are freaky pale
Pls shame me for procrastinating.
Heaven and Earth Deity
Posted 22 November 2015 - 08:48 PM
Honestly, the only Naruto Movie that was ever any good was RTN, and it wasn't because it had NS in it, it was because it didn't end up bringing in needless side characters to push the plot
It was a success because it used what was already present in the series.
Unlike The Last, which had to retcon like woa, and come up with the most ridiculous BS ever.
It's because it's the only movie that actually stayed true to its source material. That's why RTN was good.
The rest are just ridiculous and dumb. They have SP's writing all over them.
Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.
Outlaw Gunslinging marksmen
Posted 22 November 2015 - 08:54 PM
it pisses me off how they say "oh but we must forgive him guuiiiiz he's pretty!"
i bet you wouldn't be saying that if hitler was pretty too huh
The One True Demi-Goddess of Misfortune
Posted 22 November 2015 - 09:08 PM
it pisses me off how they say "oh but we must forgive him guuiiiiz he's pretty!"
i bet you wouldn't be saying that if hitler was pretty too huh
How dare you.
How dare you attempt to hold Sasuke responsible for his actions like a normal human being. He is a perfect snowflake that can do no wrong ever at all.
Pls shame me for procrastinating.
Outlaw Gunslinging marksmen
Posted 22 November 2015 - 10:01 PM
was talking about toneri but, yeah same thing.
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