Hiraishin

The controversy isn't really the "misleading" in general (because if it was truly meant to be a red herring and actually well executed, there wouldn't be a problem...but it wasn't, lol), but rather following it up with saying that the fans (with common sense, not just NS fans) "read the manga wrong" and therefore insulting a huge portion of the fanbase by basically passing off his now-obvious ineptitude and inability to plan, to stick to the guns of the story, and so on, onto those fans as if it's that portion of the fandom's fault the story turned out so badly (when it was the NH fandom, SP's bias, and, again, his own ineptitude) is what really burns people up. It would be like if Michael Bay blamed the Transformers fans for Revenge of the Fallen being such a bad (Transformers) movie.

And in terms of NH being "planned/decided", the most specific he got that I recall was actually during the earlier interviews after the manga was done, where he said it was decided only three months before the ending (which would be believable and help explain such BS, if only a tiny bit)...only to change it to "since the beginning" literally the very next week in another interview.

I was talking about the controversy that the interview and Kishimoto were referring to.

 

Could you provide a link to where he said he decided only three months prior? I don't recall that, and really, he would have needed to decide on nh earlier in order for the The Last to be written (or have nh decided for him).

beautiful cosplay of sakura vs sasori

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hi there, welcome back!

 

uh, not sure what you mean.. off the top of my head, a list of things that he said

 

-sakura might look like a bad woman if she changed

-he decided the pairings from the beginning

-no wait he decided it from the middle

-his wife is upset that narusaku didn't happen

i love this interview because in response to whether his family is more like the SS or NH family, he says neither because his wife is strong—meaning sakura is not a strong character in SS. straight from the horse's mouth, guys.

 

beautiful cosplay photo btw.

Okay. The more I know what that guy is saying everytime, the more I think he's a liar when answering.

 

At first, he said it was from the beginning then now he says from the middle he decided.

 

Second, he had no idea and didn't realize he caused such controversy ? He lives in Japan where the NS fans are way more than NH fans. Even his wife is with NS.

 

Third, I saw it he's lying much when he said at the end that his wife might secretly realize that Hinata wasn't a model of her that contradicts what he said before in the interview.

 

The anime industry has gone very greedy...

not to mention that he said he wanted to mislead fans into thinking it was ns. how could he NOT cause controversy if he deliberately fooled fans into believing it would be ns, only to reveal otherwise in the end?

 

also, have you heard nh fans' arguments against nh being decided on in the "middle" of the story? because, according to them, before, he said he "planned" nh from the start, which is different from "deciding" on it. apparently. and iirc he never actually used the term "plan" when referred to nh, always "decided." he at first said he decided on nh a "long time ago" (very vague, could mean anything from a year to ten years), then said he decided on nh in "quite an early stage" in the story (lol). later he said that nh was decided when he began part 2 (which imo most people think of as the middle of the story, even though technically it's not). that's the most specific he's gotten. and while i don't believe he decided on them that early—definitely not—in general i would be more inclined to believe his later interviews, because he probably didn't prep for them as he did for the ones directly after the manga ended.

 

also thanks for that scarf info hanabi. just more evidence that kishimoto is a liar.

Unlikely for multiple reasons.

 

1. Obviously The Last Was rewritten since a movie (especielly a Naruto movie which only take s few months to write produce and animate) would take 2 years

 

2. If NH was decided then Minato would have interacted with Hinata in some way shape or form and Naruto's sudden "Hey you know mom's final words? umm yeah kitten that" wouldn't have been shoehorned in the final act of the series to make it seem less like he let his parents down entirely

 

3. Minato gave NS his blessing and was there on his deathbed...with Sakura. Sakura and Karin parallel during the CPR scene and while Hinata disappeared for a good 30 to 40 chapters. 

 

sometime early 2014 I can even understand someone saying late 2013 but 2012? 

lol no

It had to have been at latest ~Dec. 2012 because that's when Neji was killed, and remember, Kishimoto killed him in order to bring Naruto and Hinata closer together (a "cupid"). They also announced the next movie (The Last, the idea for was brought to Kishimoto by SP) at this time, saying it would come out in 2014 instead of 2013. And while I haven't seen it myself, the animation, production, etc. does seem to be on a higher level than the previous Naruto movies (even though the art style itself is horrendous.. seriously), coupled with the designs Kishimoto had to do, the databook that came out with the movie, all those things...

 

2. This is assuming Kishimoto is a good writer. Which he's not.

 

As for 3, it was either because Kishimoto wanted to "mislead" the readers (which he said himself is what he did), or because he continued to write the story in the way he intended it, as tricksie said, but just tacked on the ending. Or it could be a mixture of both.

 

And before this (end of 2009) is probably when he got the biggest backlash from Sakura haters and proclamations of love for Hinata from her fans, despite Kishimoto trying to portray Sakura as a heroine, prompting him to give up on her.

 

I think it happened around the release of Road to Ninja which was a narusaku film by saying something that it is something that he won't be able to do in the manga. He probably knew that the magazine and SP would make NH canon no matter what.

Which is funny, because that's what NH/SS said—the reason for all the NS in Road to Ninja is because he wouldn't be able to do that in the manga. That's how they interpreted his statement and that movie (which doesn't make sense coming from them because that would mean Kishimoto wanted to write NaruSaku, he wanted to put that in the manga but wasn't able to, so he put it in the movie instead). So, perhaps they were right after all...? haha.

At the latest? Before 615 was released (late December, 2012). Although probably around when he started writing the war arc.

I don't buy that he "didn't realise he created controversy" with the couples. Maybe he didn't know about this happening in the US, because, well, it's in a whole different country, plus he probably figured everyone here loves NH + SS.. But he had to know about the situation in Japan, even if only vaguely.

How come he listened to his wife about Kushina but not about Narusaku (which was, let's admit it, far more integral to the story?) She's a "strong" character after all. I'm guessing it's because by the time she found out, it was too late -- the storyboards were planned, The Last movie was in production.. Coupled with the fact he cares way too much about popularity and he has no spine/is wishy washy.. Welp, that's how we got that ending, pretty much.

At least we now know that there was at least a couple people in Kishimoto's circle that knew what should have happened. What's the moral of the story? Always listen to your wife.

(Also, how lame of him to try to convince his wife she was the model for Hinata. She sounds nothing like her, what a jerk, and a liar. I won't even comment about how he decided on NH, it's all a bunch of kitten and he knows it.)