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[Mik3]

Did that basically just kill off any idea that Sasuke will ever be in a relationship?

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He could, but would probably be cuckoo for cocoa puffs.

Then again he already did this




So he may already be in love, with Naruto presumably

[TouKen4Life3g]

... ah i understand now
Then I guess

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Lol sure. But all jokes aside, it's like what I said before, this battle between Naruto and Sasuke is becoming a new generation of Hashirama vs. Madara.

[rocci]

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Lol sure. But all jokes aside, it's like what I said before, this battle between Naruto and Sasuke is becoming a new generation of Hashirama vs. Madara.

yup and sakura is the mito of the first generation

[Fenris]

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Lol sure. But all jokes aside, it's like what I said before, this battle between Naruto and Sasuke is becoming a new generation of Hashirama vs. Madara.

I still hope that Naruto is able to save Sasuke, even if it is in death. I hope for some kind of redemption for him, unlike the Hashirama vs Madara fight.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I still hope that Naruto is able to save Sasuke, even if it is in death. I hope for some kind of redemption for him, unlike the Hashirama vs Madara fight.

That's exactly it shaping up to be. Now I think about it, Madara fought Hashirama with all the power of love (brother's death) and Kyuubi yet still lost. Wow, that's pretty damn impressive. I would reread later. I should sleep soon.

As for Mito, I want to know more of her. I can now see Hashirama being bossed around. But, we shall wait. Any bet?

[TerrorKing]

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This was a great chapter. I loved the interaction between the Hokage's, especially between Hashirama and Tobirama. Turns out their personalities were the exact opposite of what I expected. I expected Hashirama to be calm and strict and Tobirama to be outspoken and idealistic. I don't really know why, but I guess it's because I feel it fits with the typical older brother/younger brother dynamic.

Still, this is much better. It's true. Kishi really loves parallels. I so want to see more of Mito now. I also liked how Tsunade got her gambling habits from Hashirama. I loved that image of young Tsunade.

Minato's role wasn't very big, but that's probably because it's not his time yet. Still, it was pretty funny seeing Hashirama's reaction.

The explanation behind the sharingan was...interesting. I guess it makes sense but yeah, I'm gonn have to think about it before I think I can fully grasp it.

Edited by TerrorKing, 05 February 2013 - 10:30 AM.

[Codus N]

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This chapter had so many good things that I need to list them

1) Suigetsu said it best, Hashirama wasn't what I expected at all. He really gives a Naruto vibe. I'm calling it right now, if we ever see a flashback of Mito she's totally gonna be a tsundere or at least have a strong personality that makes Hashi nervous.

Mito: HASHIRAMA!
Hashirama: Mito-chan, too scary.

5) Knowing that Hashi taught Tsunade how to gamble was priceless. Dammit Hashi don't go teaching a baby girl about adult vices. Maybe someone should tell him that thanks to that his granddaughter is now loaded in debt.

Well, if you check my earlier post, you can see I called it about a year ago . Of course, you can take that with a grain of salt on whether I really wrote that or not. As for Mito, I think most of the times when she snaps are usually when she finds out Hashirama's been sneaking out of town to gambling dens. Add to the fact that she was a Jinchuuriki, Hashirama's family life must've been hell.

Edited by Codus N, 05 February 2013 - 09:15 AM.

[fireandice]

Well, if you check my earlier post, you can see I called it about a year ago . Of course, you can take that with a grain of salt on whether I really wrote that or not. As for Mito, I think most of the times when she snaps are usually when she finds out Hashirama's been sneaking out of town to gambling dens. Add to the fact that she was a Jinchuuriki, Hashirama's family life must've been hell.

HAHA well done there! I myself didn't think Hashirama was a gambler. And I did peg his personality to be pretty different from what it really is. I guess it's kind of true in real life...like how we imagine famous historical figure. Hashirama's this legendary figure, and so people kind of forget he's human too lol, and expected him to be this calm, poised, god-like person. LOVED the way Kishi portrayed him here.

Regarding the Uchiha clan and love, actually I think that makes a lot of sense. Hatred and love imo aren't opposites- indifference is the opposite of love. You can only hate because you CARED for the thing related to it. In this case, imo, Sasuke's hatred of Itachi in Part 1 was BECAUSE of how much he loved Itachi and looked up to him, so his 'betrayal' was really the most painful and horrible thing ever.

Lol don't worry, anyone who's thinking about SS hint...I doubt this is related to SasuSaku. It seemed to me the parallel is the 'brothers' thing here, with Madara/Izuna and Sasuke/Itachi. More about familial bonds. It makes sense- Sasuke got his Mangekyou after he killed Itachi...the one person he actually probably loved most in the world.

Edited by fireandice, 05 February 2013 - 09:31 AM.

[ciardha]

Hashirama is funny, and was a very bad grandpa But it definitely sounds like his heart was in the right place as Hokage, far more than Tobirama.

As far as pairings go for Sasuke, actually I think it hints toward SasuKar- remember Karin's of the Uzumaki clan, and Sasuke knows it now. Don't think that pairing will happen to the end of the manga though. I do think it's pointing toward Sasuke making the choice to be a wanderer at the end.

I like the rounding out of Orochimaru's character we've seen since we got Kabuto's back story. You can see better why Jiraiya tried to reach Orochimaru now. You obviously can't trust him, but you can see a glimpses of the person he was beneath what he became. (The first hint of that was actually in the first team 7 part two reunion arc- where he prevents Sasuke from killing Naruto and Sakura, But it's so subtle that I wonder how many readers caught it at the time.)

Edited by ciardha, 05 February 2013 - 09:43 AM.

[fireandice]

Hashirama is funny, and was a very bad grandpa But it definitely sounds like his heart was in the right place as Hokage, far more than Tobirama.

As far as pairings go for Sasuke, actually I think it hints toward SasuKar- remember Karin's of the Uzumaki clan, and Sasuke knows it now. Don't think that pairing will happen to the end of the manga though. I do think it's pointing toward Sasuke making the choice to be a wanderer at the end.

About Tobirama I like how Kishi is making the Hokages all realistic...not all lovey sunshine and bunnies! I suppose the hint with the fact that Tobirama created the Edo Tensei was an indication of how his personality differs from Hashirama.

I don't think Tobirama is necc a bad Hokage...but I suppose he was more calculating and cynical, more like Danzou, IRONICALLY! I suppose he just really differed from Hashirama, being less trusting of the Uchiha.

EDIT: Omg if Hashirama finds out what Madara did to his beloved granddaughter, Madara totally better run for his life...

Edited by fireandice, 05 February 2013 - 09:45 AM.

[neoshadow]

I love the revelation of Hashirama's personality, that he would be so Naruto like is so unexpected and yet so perfect and to be honest I like how serious and prejudiced Tobirama is, it shows that even the previous Hokage who have been put on pedestals to a degree weren't perfect. It seems to me that how Hashirama and Tobirama's interact will mirror Naruto and Sasuke's at the end of the series.

Poor Tsunade, her grandfather has no faith in her, I really want to see the Hokage enter the battlefield just to have Tsunade and Hashirama interact. Naruto and Minato etc. I also can't help but feel Hashirama will end up being the one to heal Tsunade.

It's going to be interesting to see what Sasuke does from here.

Edited by neoshadow, 05 February 2013 - 09:57 AM.

[fireandice]

I love the revelation of Hashirama's personality, that he would be so Naruto like is so unexpected and yet so perfect and to be honest I like how serious and prejudiced Tobirama is, it shows that even the previous Hokage who have been put on pedestals to a degree weren't perfect. It seems to me that Hashirama and Tobirama's interactions will mirror Naruto and Sasuke's at the end of the series.

Poor Tsunade, her grandfather has no faith in her, I really want to see the Hokage enter the battlefield just to have Tsunade and Hashirama interact. Naruto and Minato etc. I also can't help but feel Hashirama will end up being the one to heal Tsunade.

It's going to be interesting to see what Sasuke does from here.

Hmm to be fair I don't think Hashirama really has no faith in her... I guess because his memory of Tsunade is the little girl he spoilt Then, the next moment, to wake up and hear she's Hokage must be a bit of a "HUH WHAT?!" Like if someone had a coma for forty years and woke up to hear their snot-nosed younger sibling is now the US President or something lol.

[Codus N]

I don't think Tobirama is necc a bad Hokage...but I suppose he was more calculating and cynical, more like Danzou, IRONICALLY! I suppose he just really differed from Hashirama, being less trusting of the Uchiha.

Y'know, I kinda wonder if Tobirama was Danzou's sensei while Hashirama was Hiruzen's sensei. You can see very clearly how their philosophies differ, much like Hiruzen and Danzo.

[neoshadow]

Hmm to be fair I don't think Hashirama really has no faith in her... I guess because his memory of Tsunade is the little girl he spoilt Then, the next moment, to wake up and hear she's Hokage must be a bit of a "HUH WHAT?!" Like if someone had a coma for forty years and woke up to hear their snot-nosed younger sibling is now the US President or something lol.

Oh I was just joking but forgot to add the emoticon. Whoops.
But yeah it is exactly that, its why I now want them to meet again. For some reason Tsunade being teased in front of the entire alliance like shes 6 again seems like it would be a great moment.

[Chatte]

So as I see, I'm not the only one who thought about that Hashirama = Naruto and Mito being some type of tsundere who kept him in check...

[reagan48]

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I have to say, I really enjoyed this chapter. I admit, I thought it was going to be another boring segment of "how many panels can we make Sasuke glare and say nothing" - which DID happen, but it actually really made me feel sorry for him.

This poor kid, because of his background, was doomed the moment he was born (at least, that's what I took from it). I'm sure this is the tactic Kishi's going for. It makes him human again (along with the other "bad guys"). Well played Kishimoto - although at first, my immediate thought was "oh great, a SasuSaku setup", until I read further lol. After reading this chapter, I just don't see a huge, good vs evil, epic final battle between Naruto and Sasuke. Maybe, just maybe, if it does happen, it'll be for the title of Hokage. But I'm just speculating. Who knows what curve ball Kishi will throw next.

Anyway, the hokages were hilarious, and I'm excited to see what they have to say in the upcoming chapters about the Leaf.

It would also be nice to see Sakura again (she's still in this shonen right?) bahahaaa!

[rocci]

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I have to say, I really enjoyed this chapter. I admit, I thought it was going to be another boring segment of "how many panels can we make Sasuke glare and say nothing" - which DID happen, but it actually really made me feel sorry for him.

This poor kid, because of his background, was doomed the moment he was born (at least, that's what I took from it). I'm sure this is the tactic Kishi's going for. It makes him human again (along with the other "bad guys"). Well played Kishimoto - although at first, my immediate thought was "oh great, a SasuSaku setup", until I read further lol. After reading this chapter, I just don't see a huge, good vs evil, epic final battle between Naruto and Sasuke. Maybe, just maybe, if it does happen, it'll be for the title of Hokage. But I'm just speculating. Who knows what curve ball Kishi will throw next.

Anyway, the hokages were hilarious, and I'm excited to see what they have to say in the upcoming chapters about the Leaf.

It would also be nice to see Sakura again (she's still in this shonen right?) bahahaaa!

Yeah that my first thought when hokage mention about uchiha love and madara motivation because of mito reject him.
But it's not. I think kishimoto set up naruto tnj sasuke and he will use his brotherly love

[Heaven on Earth]

So as I see, I'm not the only one who thought about that Hashirama = Naruto and Mito being some type of tsundere who kept him in check...

Kishi loves parallels
Madara lost his brother, just like Sasuke lost Itachi in his life.
Kishi made Sasuke's character for brotherly-things, an important theme in this shounen manga. That's why I'm not scared of SS. Sasuke wasn't made for romance just like SS fans thought.
Kishi made Naruto (maybe) just like Hashi, a bright person, with a woman staying by his side (ah, I'm saying this because we knew Hashi has Mito in his life while Madara has no one). Hashirama and Mito, wow, I can see them as Naruto and Sakura.

Next, we'll see Hashirama's explanation. If we lucky, maybe we'll see Mito
Please, Kishi! Just ... don't make her such a shy, quiet girl like someone we already knew

[Phantom_999]

Well that explained SO MUCH!!! So the Uchiha are the living embodiment of "Love makes you Cuckoo" Is this an Othello reference?
well lets see Hashirama actually has a Naruto like demeanor, so i HOPE that means Mito was a strong willed "firecracker" like my favourite Kunoichi in this series

Yeah that my first thought when hokage mention about uchiha love and madara motivation because of mito reject him.
But it's not. I think kishimoto set up naruto tnj sasuke and he will use his brotherly love

Me nos remember him thinking of Sakura in a personal manner when thinking of bonds. That is usually Naruto. If Sakura ever popped in his head it was as a member of team 7 the way I see it.

Edited by Phantom_999, 05 February 2013 - 10:59 AM.

[James S Cassidy]

Well that explained SO MUCH!!! So the Uchiha are the living embodiment of "Love makes you Cuckoo" Is this an Othello reference?

I actually see it more like that the Uchiha are nothing more than babies whining whenever something is lost. This really is some kind of Freudian complex here the Uchiha cannot accept reality so they try to create their own because they can't stand losing everything.