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[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

I was always convinced since those final chapters came out.

Same here. You can't plan the ending since the beginning because you don't know if your work will succeed.

[Hiraishin]

I don't buy that he "didn't realise he created controversy" with the couples. Maybe he didn't know about this happening in the US, because, well, it's in a whole different country, plus he probably figured everyone here loves NH + SS.. But he had to know about the situation in Japan, even if only vaguely.

How come he listened to his wife about Kushina but not about Narusaku (which was, let's admit it, far more integral to the story?) She's a "strong" character after all. I'm guessing it's because by the time she found out, it was too late -- the storyboards were planned, The Last movie was in production.. Coupled with the fact he cares way too much about popularity and he has no spine/is wishy washy.. Welp, that's how we got that ending, pretty much.

At least we now know that there was at least a couple people in Kishimoto's circle that knew what should have happened. What's the moral of the story? Always listen to your wife.

(Also, how lame of him to try to convince his wife she was the model for Hinata. She sounds nothing like her, what a jerk, and a liar. I won't even comment about how he decided on NH, it's all a bunch of kitten and he knows it.)

Edited by Hiraishin, 14 October 2015 - 07:48 PM.

[FireFox]

 

There's really no saving grace for this man , he really isn't aware what he is saying anymore     . At least his Wife is the sane and rational one . I suggest  for her to save herself and  take this sick kitten to a shrink for some serious evaluation ​ .  

[SlyNinjaKnight]

Ok, from here I can see that Kishi is literally giving the middle finger to all sides of the fandom. Yes, I mean all of us. At this point, he's doing what Rowling is currently doing years after HP ended.

 

I wouldn't go that far. JKR has been filling in the world that she created with tidbits and new information that doesn't really affect the actual story, she's fleshing out the world that she made with Harry Potter in ways that she couldn't in the actual books. The only information that I would say that compares JKR and Kishi is that interview with Emma Watson a year ago when JKR admitted that pairing Ron and Hermione together was more for wish fulfillment and keeping the pairings together as originally constructed instead of going along with how the characters were developing while she wrote the series. That is really the only major 'possible' retcon that JKR has put out there since the Harry Potter books ended.

 

On the other hand, it seems that every time Kishi talks he is totally changing something about his series, even after it has already been completed. JKR hasn't gone back and said that Harry knew Ginny before he knew about the wizarding world and then just forgot about her until the end of the War like Kishi did in The Last, when Hinata suddenly was Naruto's first friend and bond, even though the manga never supported this in any way.

[Hanabi]

... comparing a real woman to the females kishi created is more of an insult 

[rocci]

So what's this all about?

[TouKen4Life3g]

So what's this all about?

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[TheFirstEvil100]

True. More than the pairings, this ending seems to be about accepting the status quo and that instead of trying to change things, you just need to accept it for what it is and move on. 

Well I sure as hell won't just bow down and start accepting this kitten ending no way in hell I would take a bullet to the head before that too far I know but this is more than pairing its about how to not only do a good story but how to know what is right as well.

[rocci]

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Wow his wife thought it gonna be NS.
Did she read or watch naruto?

And did he say that Hinata is naruto first bond?

[TouKen4Life3g]

Wow his wife thought it gonna be NS.
Did she read or watch naruto?

And did he say that Hinata is naruto first bond?

I'm assuming she does.

Well, he more or less said that.

[TerrorKing]

Wow his wife thought it gonna be NS.
Did she read or watch naruto?

And did he say that Hinata is naruto first bond?

He didn't outright say that she was his first bond, but he kinda implied it when he said that Hinata always supperted and acknowledged Naruto before Iruka even did so. 

[Nostradamus]

He didn't outright say that she was his first bond, but he kinda implied it when he said that Hinata always supperted and acknowledged Naruto before Iruka even did so. 

Wow this guy actually believe we are all idiots.

[harry4e]

I don't buy that he "didn't realise he created controversy" with the couples. Maybe he didn't know about this happening in the US, because, well, it's in a whole different country, plus he probably figured everyone here loves NH + SS.. But he had to know about the situation in Japan, even if only vaguely.

How come he listened to his wife about Kushina but not about Narusaku (which was, let's admit it, far more integral to the story?) She's a "strong" character after all. I'm guessing it's because by the time she found out, it was too late -- the storyboards were planned, The Last movie was in production.. Coupled with the fact he cares way too much about popularity and he has no spine/is wishy washy.. Welp, that's how we got that ending, pretty much.

At least we now know that there was at least a couple people in Kishimoto's circle that knew what should have happened. What's the moral of the story? Always listen to your wife.

(Also, how lame of him to try to convince his wife she was the model for Hinata. She sounds nothing like her, what a jerk, and a liar. I won't even comment about how he decided on NH, it's all a bunch of kitten and he knows it.)

 

I don't buy it either, the guy deliberately put the fandom against against each other by having a NS moment, then NH moment, then SS hints then SK hints, since the Pain arc, her has been trolling the fans, putting them against each other. How can someone who said he made MK similar to NS as a red herring not know he would be creating controversy. I wouldn't be surprised if he allowed the last movie to be so controdictory for the purpose of creating controversy.

 

Even if he did decide on the NH ending half way through, so basically the Pain arc, who continue to troll fans, why give NS more development than NH? This guy needs his head examining.

 

He argues about how he felt Hinata deserved to be with Naruto because she acknowledged him first, but what did she do? And did she acknowledge him or did she acknowledge him trying hard and being determined. She didn't acknowledge his strength because she goes to help him when she sees him, she doesn't beleive in his strength, the classic example was when they first meet Tobi, Sakura had full faith in Naruto's strength, Hinata felt like he needed help and it was Sakura that had to stop her. Besides why does who acknowledge who first matter? What matters is what they do. Iruka acknowledged him and made him Genin, Sasuke acknowledged him and made him his rival, Jiaraya acknowledged him and made him his student, Tsunade acknowledged him and made him her family and prospect for the future of the village. Sakura acknowledged him and cheered for him during the exams, the only person who did so, he acknowledged his stregth so trained her socks off to walk beside him now be protected by him. Hinata acknowledged him and let him be alone and continue to struggle.

[rocci]

He didn't outright say that she was his first bond, but he kinda implied it when he said that Hinata always supperted and acknowledged Naruto before Iruka even did so. 

Well, he's right that Hinata do that before iruka, but if he think that Hinata is the first person who make bond with him, than he's kittening wrong.

Oh when I think about it, sasuke should be the first person who acknowledge naruto right!

[Tiller]

Well I'm not sure what to say exactly. Pretty much everything I've been arguing for close to a year has been confirmed. What more is their to say beyond, hey we were right and the pro ending crowd was wrong.

[Toasty Warrior]

So which level of hell has Kishimoto dug himself to with this kitten interview of his?

[TouKen4Life3g]

So which level of hell has Kishimoto dug himself to with this kitten interview of his?

The one where his wife beats him down. No joke.

[Michi]

He didn't outright say that she was his first bond, but he kinda implied it when he said that Hinata always supperted and acknowledged Naruto before Iruka even did so. 

That sounds fake, but okaaaaaay.

[TerrorKing]

That sounds fake, but okaaaaaay.

Well...

 

From the middle of the story? Hm! What sealed this decision for you? 

 

I think what made me realize it was partly because, if you really look back and think about it, Hinata always supported and acknowledged Naruto, even before Master Iruka. She had the ability to see beyond his reputation and see the person inside. I think I started realizing that they were meant to be.

 

This is a quote from the interview. Straight from the horse's mouth. Take it as you will. 

Edited by TerrorKing, 14 October 2015 - 11:14 PM.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

Well...
 
From the middle of the story? Hm! What sealed this decision for you? 
 
I think what made me realize it was partly because, if you really look back and think about it, Hinata always supported and acknowledged Naruto, even before Master Iruka. She had the ability to see beyond his reputation and see the person inside. I think I started realizing that they were meant to be.
 
This is a quote from the interview. Straight from the horse's mouth. Take it as you will. 

What is wrong with this man?