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#21 Nate River

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 03:26 PM

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LOL, somehow I'm not surprised a senator from my home-state was behind this mess. What with the current MN government shutdown caused by a feud between our idiot Governor and idiot Congress, and this insane bill, I'm starting to wonder if Minnesota is just a laughing stock in the political community. California may have elected an actor as governor, but that hardly compares to us electing a former wrestler.

But this does support my notion on how pointless it is to point fingers, considering that both Democratic and Republican politicians are involved in this bill. LOL, when it comes to absurd legislation like this, you can always count on Republicans and Democrats to put aside their differences and work together!


I wasn't trying to lay "blame" per se. If look at my post you'll notice I didn't actually offer an opinion on the merits of the bill. I was ticked off at Codus N because in addition to being insulting his post was first class political hackery and an exceptional case of just plain lazy analysis.

Well...North Carolina has a former NFL flame-out in Heath Shuler and Florida has an impeached federal Judge in Alcee Hastings (he was removed from his position for taking a 150K bribe). And so it doesn't look like I'm picking on Democrats, the Republicans in Conneticut ran Vince McMahon's wife (yes that Vince McMahon) as a candidate. Actually speaking of Pro-Football players...one of them actually served on the Supreme Court for a number of years: Byron White.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 03:41 PM

Congress should focus more on more important things not what we use the internet for, this bills not going to pass nuff said.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 06:41 PM

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Congress should focus more on more important things not what we use the internet for, this bills not going to pass nuff said.


Don't be too sure about that. I'm not American. But I've seen more idiotic things passed in Congress than this. And this is borderline stupidity. Limiting playback of games/music/movies on the internet? Utterly asinine.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 06:43 PM

Congress can't even keep drugs off the street or their hands out of some hookers pants, how do you expect them to be able to enforce a ban on streaming/video uploading? My god, how ignorant can this nation be to be so reactionary to every little thing that springs up without thinking first? You're the next voters of this backwater, and you can't even reel in your own politicians? That's... just wow. That's an amazing amount of fail right there.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 07:14 PM

QUOTE (Cloud @ Jul 5 2011, 02:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't be too sure about that. I'm not American. But I've seen more idiotic things passed in Congress than this. And this is borderline stupidity. Limiting playback of games/music/movies on the internet? Utterly asinine.

I agree completely, they might pass the bill and all but there not going to be able to stop people from uploading.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 09:37 PM

QUOTE (Kamina-Yoshi @ Jul 5 2011, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Congress can't even keep drugs off the street or their hands out of some hookers pants, how do you expect them to be able to enforce a ban on streaming/video uploading? My god, how ignorant can this nation be to be so reactionary to every little thing that springs up without thinking first? You're the next voters of this backwater, and you can't even reel in your own politicians? That's... just wow. That's an amazing amount of fail right there.

I just wanna +10 this.

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 12:42 AM

It will never work.

There is no way to enforce it. They don't have enough people to go through to see who downloaded from every streaming website and when. There have to be more streaming websites than there are torrent portals.

There are not enough jails to put people into. You start throwing so many people in jail and the economy is going to collapse because there won't be enough people to work. The courts will be clogged with people refusing to pay the fines.

This bill is just a 'Look what I can do!' attempt. If it doesn't get through, which it won't, at least they can point at it and go 'I tried!'.


Relax. If it does happen, I'll laugh about how far we've fallen. Then promptly vote my reps out of office.

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 05:46 PM

Everyone remember Prohibition? Yeah, that went so well, didn't it? And that was with almost half of the country WANTING it, now they have barely even a quarter, if not only a tenth or even a hundredth of the population. By god, relax your reactionary ways and go watch some Bohemian Rhapsody, get a nice, cold drink and just relax.

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 03:17 AM

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Everyone remember Prohibition? Yeah, that went so well, didn't it? And that was with almost half of the country WANTING it, now they have barely even a quarter, if not only a tenth or even a hundredth of the population. By god, relax your reactionary ways and go watch some Bohemian Rhapsody, get a nice, cold drink and just relax.



Were still in the age of prohibition right now, and most people are against the war on drugs, but the war on drugs keeps going. Since when has Congress go with what is popular. The Bush tax cuts, highly unpopular...is still in effect, Patriot Act...same thing...the War in Iraq, highly unpopular...has gone for like what? 7 years?

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Posted 22 August 2011 - 05:19 AM

Their control of Congress in person. I agree with the above statements, they are just trying to make the company happy, and trying to find how we did not end.

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Posted 22 August 2011 - 05:28 AM

Holy crap, I should have read this thread eariler to vent my frustrations on it, but here's mine. I can't believe they might do something like this, youtube is like the only good source of entertainment without resorting to tv or any unknown source. Its where I found most of my favorite songs and got me thinking of buying albums. This reminds me of that time where the government decided to shut down online poker in the US, which caused my poker forums to go on a internet panic and riot. So if this thing actually does pass, how are we going to handle and appoarch this?

Also, I think Joe Rogan, UFC Commentator, says it best. "You can't stop the internet!!!"

Though to be fair, I could see why they might want to do this, but all that cause is people trying to be more crafty and trying to find more loopholes, thus making them more dangerous than before.

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Posted 22 August 2011 - 06:42 AM

First things first. I don't like how people say "nation" when it is like 100 people in Senate and 435 HoR who are doing this and not everyone one of them agrees on the bill. I know we elect these people to "represent us" but they don't always represent the public opinion...look at this post alone. Did they represent your views? No, so no this "national stupidity" should not be blames on Americans...only our government officials.

Second. Both Democrats and Republicans are corrupted. Both only want to line their own pockets and I don't think any one of them wants the "will of the people." If they did, we wouldn't be in such a bad state now would we? All governments are corrupted. Democrats and Republicans are just as bad equally, just on different sides of the fence.

Obama is also the one who wishes to control everything like a socialist country. Depression is bad, and our debt is rising. No one has any money and now instead of say throwing a murderer or rapist in jail, they want to throw gamers away for this. I swear they let the bad guys go free, but the good guys go to jail for something this stupid.

If this bill does pass, all video hosting websites would go down and there is way too much in there to sift it all. They might as well just shut it all down.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 22 August 2011 - 06:56 AM.

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 11:17 PM

QUOTE (Derock @ Jul 3 2011, 11:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
watching a streaming movie or a walk/playthrough video of a video game for more 10 times will likely have you either pay a fine or sent to jail for 5 years...



Time to debunk this this FUD that is going around about viewing content. The bill, if passed, will ONLY apply to those who UPLOAD the content. There is NOTHING in the bill that makes VIEWING the content illegal. I have read the bill, and I see NOTHING that makes VIEWING the content illegal.

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Aug 22 2011, 07:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If this bill does pass, all video hosting websites would go down and there is way too much in there to sift it all. They might as well just shut it all down.


All the video hosting websites will just simply leave the country. There are already several sites set up in Europe jockeying for postition to replace Justin TV and the like when this bill closes them down. Hosting sites that are not in the uSA are not subject to USA laws.




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